F1 FIA chief Max Mosley embroiled in S&M sex scandal

[Centurion]

Max insists he's done 'nothing wrong'

Less than 24 hours after announcing he is suing the News of the World newspaper for invading his privacy and putting "entirely false" connotations onto the sex scandal, Mosley has responded to calls for him to step down as FIA President.

In a letter to the German motoring federation ADAC, who on Friday urged him to "reconsider" his role as president, Mosley stated he would do nothing of a sort as he had done "nothing wrong."

"Had I been caught driving excessively fast on a public road or over the alcohol limit (even in, say, Sweden where it is very low) I should have resigned the same day," Mosley said in the letter, a copy of which was obtained by Autosport.

"As it is, a scandal paper obtained by illegal means pictures of something I did in private which, although unacceptable to some people, was harmless and completely legal.

"Many people do things in their bedrooms or have personal habits which others find repugnant. But as long as they keep them private, nobody objects.

"The offence seems to be not what I did but the fact that it became public. But I played no role in this, indeed I did my utmost to ensure it remained private. I was the victim of a disgusting conspiracy.

"It goes without saying that the so-called Nazi element is pure fabrication. This will become crystal clear when the matter comes to trial. The newspaper invented this in order to spice up their story and introduce my family background.

"In short, I think I have done nothing wrong and that the wrong was done by the newspaper. That is why I am suing them.

"I don't think any of this should affect my work on motoring safety, the environment or the sport. I believe that 21st century adults do not worry about private sexual matters as long as they are legal and harmless."

He added: "I shall put this view to the Assembly in due course."

PlanetF1.com

 

[Centurion]

He's right and I'm starting to feel a empathy. There is a chance that the whole "Nazi" element was a slight fabrication or blown out of proportion just because the hookers were dressed as prison wardens and spoke some German.

 

[Ultimate Car Guy]

I agree, Mosley has not done anything wrong. Whatever goes on in his private life is completely his business and no one has a right to violate that.

However, this whole scandal makes his position untenable. No one will ever take him seriously. People will and some have lose respect for him. He will be under the continuous butt of jokes and gossip, which ultimately damages the office he is suppose to discharge with dignity and integrity.

I feel sorry for the guy cos he did no wrong. Things didn't go his way, and it was unfair, but he has to protect the image and integrity of his position.

 

[bmer]

So can he keep his position or will he have to resign like Spitzer (whose case was a bit different though)?

 

[Remy Zero]

i was actually hoping he;ll go, so that many rules can be altered...oh yea, and Paul Stoddart will become president

 

[Imhotep Evil]

So can he keep his position or will he have to resign like Spitzer (whose case was a bit different though)?

There are major differences:
- Spitzer is just some small provincial guy no one has ever heard of outside USA, Mosley is the president of the world automobile federation
- USA isn't western Europe and viceversa

 

[Zonda]

Figured. I had no idea of who Spitzer was. And that explains it.

 

[jack]

i actually have real respect, he is the first one whos involed in sexual "issues" and stands streight for it - others would have resigned without any commentary. maybe his actions will make some people think about the whole situation

btw. i haven't seen the video (simply because i'm not interested in other peoples sex life) what indicates the nazi theme some newspapers are reporting?

 

[Zonda]

One of the prostitutes has some kind of uniform on and they speak in German. She also "checks" him to see if he's been staying clean in the "facility".

 

[450SEL6.9]

So can he keep his position or will he have to resign like Spitzer (whose case was a bit different though)?

bmer, the two cases are a lot different, legally. No one has accused Max of doing anything illegal. Most people here rail on him for acting in bad taste, but he is not facing a criminal charge.

Spitzer's case is more serious because there is actually a threat of criminal charges. Now, I don't think any prosecution can convict him on anything serious and he will almost certainly not spend time in jail, but he can be charged criminally. That was reported almost as soon as his story broke.

I'm pretty sure Mosley did nothing illegal. If he did break any laws, some paper/tabloid would have reported it by now. If you are an employer and you fire an employee over his/her private romances, personal affairs that are not even illegal, you would be staring down a lawsuit.

 

[Deleted member 25]

Max you are ******.

Members of the FIA Senate are to be sent full copies of the videotape at the centre of the Max Mosley controversy so they can judge his activities for themselves.

Amid increasing pressure Mosley to resign his FIA presidency over the revelations about his private life, the News of the World newspaper made further claims in its latest edition on Sunday.

It also said that it would send copies of the video of him and five prostitutes to the eight members of the FIA Senate, and make it available to any of the national authorities that make up the governing body.

In a leader column, the newspaper stated: "We absolutely refute and challenge his assertion that we have invented any elements of his depravity. Which is why we plan to send copies of our video evidence to Senate members representing the global motor-racing community, which will decide on the future of the president. Their own statutes decree anyone who inflicts "moral injury" on the FIA by "words, deeds or writings" may be expelled."

Former grand prix driver Martin Brundle added his voice to calls for Mosley to resign over the matter in his own column in The Sunday Times.

"The specific detail of the scandal surrounding him is largely irrelevant in my view," wrote Brundle. "The sporting regulation he has used over the years to keep teams in check relates to bringing the sport into disrepute.

"If you live by the sword you die by the sword. Sitting on the fence on this issue for any of us inside the sport is not an option. We must condone or condemn the situation he finds himself in.

"Mosley's position is untenable. He would have received much more sympathy and understanding had he tendered his resignation last Monday morning. His stance has inflamed the situation and he could never now make a keynote speech or force through penalties or regulations with the necessary credibility - with the motoring associations, the teams, the car manufacturers, the sponsors, the fans, the media or the drivers."

Mosley has called an extraordinary meeting of the FIA general assembly to discuss the matter, and there is the possibility that a vote could take place at that meeting about whether or not he should carry on in his role.

 

[Centurion]

One of the prostitutes has some kind of uniform on and they speak in German. She also "checks" him to see if he's been staying clean in the "facility".

That's the offensive part and I would guess that the folks over in Germany are highly appalled and disgusted by it.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Mosley has got to go one way or another.
I don't care how, or about what he did/didn't do what he did in his private life, but because he's the worst that ever happen to Grand-Prix motor racing.


That fact he destroyed F1 GP racing by:
- banning active suspensions
- modifying the wings width and height making them sensitive to wake turbulence
- banning slicks
- banning V10s
- banning flexi-wings
- reducing the track width
- reducing the ground-effect to just 40% of overall downforce

means he'll have no mercy from me.

The 2 World wars, the Great Depression and oil crises combined didn't do so much damage to GP racing as Mad Max.

 

[bmer]

I have to admit I intentionally played down the differences between the Spitzer and Mosley cases but that was because I couldn't resist to see the reaction.

But yes, Mosley's case is more of a moral question. Is the public in any case justified to demand certain "dignity"/good taste in his personal life from a person in this position?

 

[450SEL6.9]

But yes, Mosley's case is more of a moral question. Is the public in any case justified to demand certain "dignity"/good taste in his personal life from a person in this position?

I don't think a lack of dignity and good taste in his private time is justification for him to be fired. That's why all the talk about him being fired is really counterproductive. If he is fired for private matters, he can sue his employer. He would have every right to.

If the people that hate him really do want him gone, they would do themselves a favor if they stop demanding he gets fired.

 

[Centurion]

Mosley orgy had Nazi theme, NoW claim

British tabloid News of the World on Sunday insisted that Max Mosley's sex romp with five prostitutes had a Nazi theme.

In a second expose about the FIA President's personal life, the newspaper quotes one of the prostitutes as saying Mosley ordered her to "dress up in German military uniform."

"It's not the first time he's hired us," she added.

Mosley vehemently denies the Nazi connotations, and has commenced legal action against the newspaper. News of the World says all the prostitutes were contacted by Mosley's lawyers to bolster his denial of the Nazi connotation.

But the unnamed prostitute, confirming that one of her colleagues wore a German Luftwaffe tunic, said: "Max knew (the) orgy was to have a Nazi theme - he ordered it!"

The report also published photos of Jews in a Nazi concentration camp wearing striped uniforms - similar to the costumes also donned by Mosley's prostitutes.


"I was told to expect a very strong Nazi theme, including demeaning body inspections, brutality and that two submissive girls must play the parts of camp inmates," the prostitute added.

News of the World also said the FIA Senate will be sent a DVD copy of the full sex video, depicting Mosley speaking German and faking a German accent in English to the prostitutes.

But the newspaper's evidence of a Nazi undertone is thin, and a published transcript of the orgy quotes a prostitute as saying Mosley is "serving a life sentence for crimes he has committed" and would be returned "to his cell" - which doesn't tie in with the death camp claims.

F1live.com

 

[Centurion]

This is what I was waiting for. Pandora's box has been opened. Now Mosleygate is going to snow ball into something bigger. I knew that it would only be a matter of time before News of the world respond to the lawsuit by getting the hookers to speak up. It won't get any better from Mosley from here since NOTW will be feeding the press with more juice details to write about trashing Mosley image even more. Like I have said before, in the event of a scandal you can't win against the tabloids.

 

[Monster]

I really really hope people, especially journalists won't put another "gate" after the name of another scandal. It is getting repetitive and tedious.

 

[Centurion]

I really really hope people, especially journalists won't put another "gate" after the name of another scandal. It is getting repetitive and tedious.

Hahaha well Max is the one calling the entire saga a conspiracy which justifies the use of the gate.

 

[Centurion]

Mosley has got to go one way or another.
I don't care how, or about what he did/didn't do what he did in his private life, but because he's the worst that ever happen to Grand-Prix motor racing.


That fact he destroyed F1 GP racing by:
- banning active suspensions
- modifying the wings width and height making them sensitive to wake turbulence
- banning slicks
- banning V10s
- banning flexi-wings
- reducing the track width
- reducing the ground-effect to just 40% of overall downforce

means he'll have no mercy from me.

The 2 World wars, the Great Depression and oil crises combined didn't do so much damage to GP racing as Mad Max.

Although some of bans are preposterous others are well justified. If they would lift engine development and active suspension bans some of the struggling teams like Super Aguri, Force India and Torro Rosso would crumble since they don't have the expertise or funds to compete with Mclaren and Ferrari in the research department. By forcing teams to use engines and gearboxes for a minimum of two races makes dereases the costs and makes F1 financially a more fair sport.