F1 FIA chief Max Mosley embroiled in S&M sex scandal

[Wunderkind]

I am waiting for the 'impeccable source' that Max Mosley referred to in his statement.

Max Mosley is staying on because there is no sure-fire mechanism to fire him in the FIA constitution. The board representatives could move for a no-confidence vote but they would struggle to get the number to topple Mosley. No individual FIA board member nation representative has the guts to go up against Mosley. Max knows this and he will not be forced to resign unceremoniously at this stage.

It would take a concerted effort by:
1) The most important FIA member nations (the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Japan, etc), 2) The national government sports ministers, 3) The leading car manufacturers with strong presence in F1 and other forms of motorsports,
to come out in a united front to demand the resignation of Max Mosley. Italy probably won't play ball as Ferrari owes its demigod status to Mosley and Bernie. The anti-semite allegations must become serious enough for Italy to fall in line.

Mosley would not want to take on Rupert Murdoch's newspapers and Murdoch's editors are not known to back down easily. There will be more Mosley dirt in the ensuing days and weeks.

If Max Mosley does resign, the FIA will have to radically overhaul its constitution to make sure the Head of the FIA and no one person can ever have so much power.

 

[Centurion]

I don't think his lawyers want him to keep going around talking about it in public. When you have a case against a tabloid, the best legal strategy is not to go around talking about it.

Okay, so it looks like he hired a few tarts. Big deal. If the Nazi stuff Max has denied is later refuted, he shouldn't resign. Even if he is into this kind of stuff, it's his private life. I bet a lot of people in F1 have peculiar tastes.

Actually, I think Bernie has been quite low-key in his support, but maybe he doesn't know how to play this one either.

I've read a few quotes from Martin Bundell, Bernie and Jackie Stewart and they've commented on the matter as if it's true.

Mad Max was the person who slammed my man Ron Dennis for being dishonest in the after math of Stephney-gate. It's time for him to practice what he preach and give it to us cut and try, because now he's in the gray zone condemning news of the world while at the same time not fully denying it was him in the video.

What's worst about this is the Nazi role play. But I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, like father like soon.

 

[450SEL6.9]

Mad Max was the person who slammed my man Ron Dennis for being dishonest in the after math of Stephney-gate. It's time for him to practice what he preach and give it to us cut and try, because now he's in the gray zone condemning news of the world while at the same time not fully denying it was him in the video.

But Stepneygate was a matter that concerned the sporting competition and the fairness of the racing, i.e. a team possessing a rival's design data and allegedly taking steps to test and experiment with it.

Even if everything that Max is accused of in this case ended up to be true, it has no impact on the fairness of the competition of F1.

What I'm saying is that there is a big difference between being dishonest about matters relating to your job and about your sex life. These two instances of dishonesty aren't comparable IMO.

A company executive being dishonest about industrial espionage has further-reaching implications than the head of a regulatory body holding back about an "embarrassing" private romantic affairs.

I hope the stuff about high-level sources close to UK police and security services is false. If the police has really tipped him off about a "client" investigating his sex life and that "client" turns out to be involved in F1, I can't imagine the collateral damage!

 

[Centurion]

A company executive being dishonest about industrial espionage has further-reaching implications than the head of a regulatory body holding back about an "embarrassing" private romantic affairs.

There's nothing romantic about a Nazi bondage orgie, especially if the man in question slammed Spain for the exaggerated "racial" harassment Hamilton had to withstand two months ago.

 

[jack]

we call us an enlightend society, but if someone has dubious sex fetishes everyone is pointing with fingers - we don't know whats really going on in his mind, and i don't think that anyone should be able to know
he is good at what he is doing as a living, no one should judge him after his sex fetishes

 

[450SEL6.9]

There's nothing romantic about a Nazi bondage orgie, especially if the man in question slammed Spain for the exaggerated "racial" harassment Hamilton had to withstand two months ago.

There isn't anything romantic about it or hiring hookers, for that matter, but we are the not the ones in the center of this story. I don't personally know anyone that has hired dressed-up hookers, but if I had to guess, I would say that client finds it romantic. If he (or she) is spending his own money, he is deciding with his wallet what is a private romantic affair. As long as it's not my money or taxpayer money, I couldn't care less about his tastes.

The point is I don't care what a person considers romantic, vulgar, obscene, acceptable in his private life.

we call us an enlightend society, but if someone has dubious sex fetishes everyone is pointing with fingers - we don't know whats really going on in his mind, and i don't think that anyone should be able to know
he is good at what he is doing as a living, no one should judge him after his sex fetishes

We're not enlightened. This generation mindless believes everything the media has to say.

 

[Centurion]

Either way we all have of secret sex fantasies and this is a prime example of one which you don't want to be made public. I'm feel more sorry for the guy than I'm disgusted by the Nazi sprit of the whole thing. For all of us and the F1 sport it would be best if he resigned rather than face the boot in a matter of week. This is something that can't be wiped away nor forgotten especially when the paddocks are most likely vacated by many wealthy Jews. Max's image and career is scarred for life.

 

[450SEL6.9]

If he is removed, it would only be for PR reasons. His private mess does not damage the actual fairness of the racing, which is why I think he will leave kicking, screaming and lawyering if he does go. I wonder what old wounds and rivalries will crop up then. That also is no good for us fans.

I'm not so sure he will be booted out so quickly. If he is contesting the Nazi part, he ought to be given time to pursue his case before he is shown the door. If his employer boots him before that, they may be on flimsy legal grounds. Until the most controversial part is proven, I don't see many valid reasons for firing him.

 

[Centurion]

I wonder what old wounds and rivalries will crop up then.

Jackie Stewart for president?

You're right, the Nazi element of the bondage is the icing on the cake and is what will decide the fate of Maximus. I think this is far from over though, the press is going to milk this cow until it's dry asking for every little detail about the sage. Who knowns if there is more spanking hot details to known. The hookers are bound to be chased down by news of the world for more inside info.

I think he should give Ron Dennis a call for a tip on get away vactions in the west Indies.

 

[Deleted member 25]

BMW, Mercedes slam Mosley's behaviour


German car manufacturers BMW and Mercedes-Benz have issued a statement labeling FIA president Max Mosley's behaviour as 'disgraceful'.

In the first public comment made by Formula One competitors since details of Mosley's private life were revealed in the News of the World, the car makers say that they distance themselves from what has happened.

And they make it clear that the implications for the revelations go far beyond just F1.

A joint statement issued by them said: "The content of the publications is disgraceful. As a company, we strongly distance ourselves from it.

"This incident concerns Max Mosley both personally and as President of the FIA, the global umbrella organisation for motoring clubs. Its consequences therefore extend far beyond the motor sport industry. We await a response from the relevant FIA bodies."

Mosley wrote a letter to the FIA earlier this week apologising for any embarrassment caused by the News of the World story, but emphasising that he intends to carry on in his role with motor racing's governing body.

In the wake of the story, however, Mosley has cancelled a planned visit to this weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix. This morning's Times newspaper revealed that the Bahraini royal family had written to Mosley making it clear that they did not wish him to turn up.

 

[Remy Zero]

Maxxx won't be attending the race this weekend. my guess is, he'll be tied up..

 

[Monster]

Maxxx won't be attending the race this weekend. my guess is, he'll be tied up..

Thats gold mate

 

[Monster]

BMW, Mercedes slam Mosley's behaviour


German car manufacturers BMW and Mercedes-Benz have issued a statement labeling FIA president Max Mosley's behaviour as 'disgraceful'.

In the first public comment made by Formula One competitors since details of Mosley's private life were revealed in the News of the World, the car makers say that they distance themselves from what has happened.

And they make it clear that the implications for the revelations go far beyond just F1.

A joint statement issued by them said: "The content of the publications is disgraceful. As a company, we strongly distance ourselves from it.

"This incident concerns Max Mosley both personally and as President of the FIA, the global umbrella organisation for motoring clubs. Its consequences therefore extend far beyond the motor sport industry. We await a response from the relevant FIA bodies."

Mosley wrote a letter to the FIA earlier this week apologising for any embarrassment caused by the News of the World story, but emphasising that he intends to carry on in his role with motor racing's governing body.

In the wake of the story, however, Mosley has cancelled a planned visit to this weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix. This morning's Times newspaper revealed that the Bahraini royal family had written to Mosley making it clear that they did not wish him to turn up.

Max's reply to BMW and Mercedes

Max Mosley declared to news agency 'Reuters': "Given the history of BMW and Mercedes Benz, particularly before and during the Second World War, I fully understand why they would wish to strongly distance themselves from what they rightly describe as the disgraceful content of these publications.

"Unfortunately, they did not contact me before putting out their statement to ask whether the content was in fact true.

"No doubt the FIA will respond to them in due course as I am about to respond to the newspaper in question."

Mosley responds to BMW - Mercedes-Benz statement - F1technical.net

So .. what is Max waiting for?

 

[Deleted member 25]

The japanese follow the germans

Toyota also criticises Mosley's actions


Toyota has urged the FIA to consider whether president Max Mosley has met with the 'moral obligations' of his role in the wake of the revelations about his private life.

In a statement issued by the Japanese car manufacturer on Thursday, Toyota said that it did not approve of Mosley's behaviour and suggested that he had acted in a manner that was not fitting of a man in his position.

"Toyota Motorsport does not approve of any behaviour which could be seen to damage Formula One's image, in particular any behaviour which could be understood to be racist or anti-Semitic," said the statement.

"Senior figures within any sport or business, including motorsport, must adhere to high standards of behaviour. When all the facts are known, it will be for the FIA to decide whether Mr Mosley has met the moral obligations which come with the position of FIA President."

Toyota's statement comes shortly after BMW and Mercedes-Benz issued their own comments, claiming that they viewed Mosley's behaviour as 'disgraceful'.

Honda asks FIA to consider Mosley's role


Honda Racing have joined the chorus of criticisms of FIA president Max Mosley over his behaviour, and called for motor racing's governing body to make a swift decision on whether he should carry on in his role.

With BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Toyota all having issued statements on Thursday claiming that Mosley's behaviour was unacceptable, Honda added that it was worried that F1's reputations had been damaged by the allegations made against Mosley in the News of the World.

"It is necessary that senior figures in sport and business maintain the highest standards of conduct in order to fulfil their duties with integrity and respect," said the Honda statement.

"The Honda Racing F1 Team is extremely disappointed by recent events surrounding Mr Mosley and we are concerned that the reputation of Formula One and all its participants is being damaged.

"We request that the FIA gives this matter careful consideration and reaches an immediate decision in the best interests of F1 and Motorsport."

 

[Centurion]

The more articles I read abut the matter, the funnier it gets. Geez, how on earth will Mosley be able to walk into a conference room without people giggling and laughing.

I wonder what the topic was for the post bondage conversation he had with the hooker, the new F1 qualificatoins rules perhaps?

Either was we all know what to give him as a brith day gift this year. A tea set a box of Danish biscuits. We all know he suffers from low blood sugar efter intercourse

 

[Centurion]

The Crown Prince of Bahrain has warned Max Mosley against attending this weekend's grand prix, saying the FIA president is not welcome.

According to the Times, the sister publication of News Of The World, the newspaper that broke the Mosley sex scandal, Sheikh Salman Bin Hamad Al-Khalifa wrote to Mosley earlier this week, telling him not to attend this weekend's grand prix.

"In light of the allegations, I suspect you may be deliberating on your planned attendance at the grand prix here in Bahrain later in the week," the Crown Prince said in the letter, which was sent to Mosley on Tuesday.

"I therefore felt it important to convey the position of Bahrain and its people.

"Clearly of paramount importance is the success of the event for all concerned - the Kingdom of Bahrain, Formula One and spectators. The focus quite rightly should be on the race.

"With great regret I feel that under the current circumstances, it would be inappropriate for you to be in Bahrain at this time."

The Crown Prince concluded that although he didn't want to add to the "difficulties that you find yourself in," he hoped that Mosley would understand his decision.

The letter was also reportedly sent to F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone, informing him of the Crown Prince's decision.

And in keeping with that decision the FIA have announced that Mosley won't be attending the grand prix, although according to motorsport's governing body it's because "legal matters have detained him in London." No mention was made of the letter in the FIA's short statement.

With Bahrain being a representation of how many in F1 feel about the scandal, it remains to be seen whether Mosley will hold onto his role of FIA President.

Although he has come out saying he has no intention of giving up his position, should countries continue to ban him from grand prix weekends it may force him into early retirement.

Planet F1

 

[450SEL6.9]

Exactly what part of the behavior do these teams find disgraceful?

I'm asking because I think it makes a huge difference. Are they slamming the five hooker part or the Nazi part?

 

[Deleted member 25]

Nazi part.

 

[Deleted member 25]

Mosley calls extraordinary FIA meeting

By Jonathan Noble Thursday, April 3rd 2008, 14:47 GMT

FIA president Max Mosley has called an Extraordinary General Assembly meeting of motor racing's governing body to discuss the fallout of the tabloid revelations into his private life.

On the back of a raft of calls for the FIA to take action over the matter, Mosley has asked the president of the FIA Senate to arrange the meeting for the earliest possible date.

In a statement issued by the FIA on Thursday, it said: "The full membership of the FIA will be invited to attend the meeting at which the widespread publicity following an apparently illegal invasion of the FIA President's privacy will be discussed.

"The FIA has noted that Mr Mosley is preparing legal proceedings against the newspaper in question.

"It is anticipated that the meeting will take place in Paris. It will be held on the earliest practicable date. No further comments will be made by the FIA regarding the matter at this stage."

The move by Mosley comes after Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Honda Racing and Toyota all issued statements expressing their unease at the stories of Mosley's private life that appeared in the News of the World last week.

Autosport.com understands Mosley has called the meeting because he wants to provide the FIA will total clarity of his position.

The Senate is formed by over 200 members so it is likely it will take some times before the meeting is arranged.

It is understood that Mosley is to issue another statement tomorrow.

Despite several calls for Mosley to resign, he indicated in a letter he wrote to FIA members earlier this week that he was fully committed to carrying on in his role.

.

 

[LaArtist]

wow.. he is banned from comming to a race where he is the chief..haha
well no point in being the chief then either..
resign max.. you have alot of money, and soon enough ppl will forget you..
and you can go back to being nasty as hell