F1 FIA chief Max Mosley embroiled in S&M sex scandal


IMO, i think Max will somehow resign. sure, it's he's private life, but still, i don't think as a leader, and as a president, he should have done that.

few months ago, Malaysia's health minister resigned when he was caught on a hidden cam with a chic. altho, he has been doing a great job, he still was asked to resigned.
 
Nazi part.

And therein lies the potential disaster. If everyone is slamming his behavior as disgraceful because of the Nazi bit, they need to take a step back because that portion of the report is going to be legally contested. Until then, it should not be treated as factual or legal basis for dismissal from employment.

An organization cannot easily force out one of its employees based on the claims of tabloid, some of which will now be challenged. He should be at least given time to pursue his legal claim. If they fire him long before that, then aren't they essentially firing him for the hooker part?

I think that would result in a nasty, nasty lawsuit
 
Even without the nazi part, pressure would have been enourmous. In occidental anglo saxons democracies men holding ultra high positions must have an absolut clean image, they can do whatever they want but they must keep it secret, once you get caught, you simply resign. It's maybe too harsh but that's how it works.
 
IMO, i think Max will somehow resign. sure, it's he's private life, but still, i don't think as a leader, and as a president, he should have done that.

few months ago, Malaysia's health minister resigned when he was caught on a hidden cam with a chic. altho, he has been doing a great job, he still was asked to resigned.

There are a lot of examples, Bill Clinton, several US senators...

I'm with Remy and shonguiz on that.
I think it's not possible for him to go on. Everytime he will enter a room, everybody will imagine him naked with the chicks punishing him...Brrrr...

And it just would be a shame for the FIA to have a President that has so weak moral values, he's not a good representative any more. Our society may pretend to be a free one, it still is totally untolerant on private matters once they are known to the public.

Nazi or not, he's finished imo, and will have to resign under the pressure. Hell, every manufacturers seems against him, the States organizing the races don't want to see him...
 
^^ If he were to resign on his own, that would be problem solved. Clinton did go on and he had nearly a 70% approval rating when his term expired.

It's just that I think the media reports make it sound like the teams want him ousted. As I said, that's not so easy. If they oust him, they better have something that stands up better in court than the tabloid said he got hookers or the tabloid accused him of Nazi roleplay.

Someone will accuse me of wanting another F1 scandal, but if the teams play this affair the way I think they will, the lawyers can drudge up all sorts of rivalries and buried/half-buried scandals in defending their clients. Why go through that? There are quiet, private means to use, if only the F1 people can keep their comments to themselves.

I think it is not advisable for him to go on, but for anyone involved in F1 to be screaming for his employment papers to be handed to you on a plate will make the matter worse.
 
Hahah that's so true. Would be like a designer not allowed to attend his/her's fashion show.


Exactly what part of the behavior do these teams find disgraceful?

I'm asking because I think it makes a huge difference. Are they slamming the five hooker part or the Nazi part?

The Nazi part in particular but also the hooker part, bondage and the video footage. It's all a big bad cake, very scandalous. The video footage is what killed it.
 
Karma comes to mind.

The guy had a arguably shady past and family conections anyway. Oh and he was a complete utter w*nker in real life and now the car manufacturers are getting their own back on him. Its easy to see that no one but ferrari and ferrai fans like him.

Ta Ta Max. Good day you dirty perverted old b*stard.
 
FIA has always been an invisible Ferrari sponsor which is why they are yet to throw a boot at Mosley. There was already a Max resistance and with this scandal he certainly dug his own grave. Can't say he's receiving a lot of prise on facebook either.




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Hmmm, of the major manufacturers in F1, only Ferrari hasn't released any statements distancing themselves from him, wonder why?? :t-hands:
 
I think it is not advisable for him to go on, but for anyone involved in F1 to be screaming for his employment papers to be handed to you on a plate will make the matter worse.

If he doesn't want to be shown the door then he better start defending he's case because so far he's just been speaking in tongues allowing everyone to believe what's said in the papers. As long as he doesn't stand up for himself then more and more people will put their left palm in his face. He doesn't need his over paid lawyers for this, you can't fight the press like that, especially not in the era of internet and youtube. All that's required is a room, photographers one mic and Max off course. The sooner he gets to the bottom of it and face the shame the quicker will his "normal" life be restored.
 
If he doesn't want to be shown the door then he better start defending he's case because so far he's just been speaking in tongues allowing everyone to believe what's said in the papers.

He doesn't need his over paid lawyers for this, you can't fight the press like that, especially not in the era of internet and youtube.

I think many, many already do believe the story simply because it was Max Mosley involved. There ain't no way he would have been able to change that.

If it was a respected, well-liked F1 person involved, there wouldn't have been such a rush to give the article the benefit of all doubt. The only other man that could have inspired such a response is you know who.

You can't fight the press by going back and forth with them in public. That only helps them sell newspapers. The rise of the internet doesn't mean tabloid victims have to go tit-for-tat with the tabloid writers in full view.

He is pursuing a claim in court and for that he needs lawyers. Illegal activities may have been perpetrated. There may be other involvement, especially if he really has a source close to UK police and security services. His legal tactics seem pretty sound.
 
Mosley calls for emergency meeting

International Automobile Federation president Max Mosley, facing calls to quit over a sex scandal, has called for an extraordinary general assembly of motor sport's world governing body.
The FIA stated from the Bahrain Grand Prix - where the third round of the World Championship will take place this weekend - that Mosley had asked the president of the FIA Senate, Monaco's Michel Boeri, to call the meeting in Paris and at the earliest practical date.
That is unlikely to be in the next week or two, with 222 national motoring organisations from 130 countries on five continents affiliated to the FIA.
"The full membership of the FIA will be invited to attend the meeting at which the widespread publicity following an apparently illegal invasion of the FIA President's privacy will be discussed," they stated.
"The FIA has noted that Mr Mosley is preparing legal proceedings against the newspaper in question."
Britain's News of the World Sunday tabloid detailed how he had paid for sex with prostitutes in an apparent Nazi-themed orgy.
Mosley has denied any "Nazi connotation to the matter" and has blamed a "covert" operation against him.
Mosley apologised to all national FIA clubs and bodies in a letter on Tuesday but said he would not stand down.
Earlier on Thursday Formula One teams Mercedes, BMW, Honda and Toyota all issued statements critical of Mosley's position, while McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton became the first driver to publicly criticise his fellow Briton.
Hamilton backed the four car manufacturers who sided against Mosley, whose continuing position at the helm of the global motoring organisation is beginning to seem untenable.
"I totally agree with what they were saying," Hamilton is quoted as saying in Bahrain by The Sun. "The key is to set a good example. We all, especially the young people, we're always looking up to at least someone to show us the way.
"Setting a good example is the best way of saying it."
F1LIVE.com / Reuters
 
ADAC tells Mosley to reconsider his role

By Jonathan Noble Friday, April 4th 2008, 08:45 GMT

The ADAC, Germany's national motoring body, has written to FIA president Max Mosley asking him to 'reconsider' his position in the wake of the controversy over his private life.

Mosley has called an extraordinary meeting of the FIA membership to discuss the fallout from the tabloid revelations that have dominated headlines in recent days. It is understood Mosley wants to hold the meeting to provide 'total clarity' on the situation for members of motor racing's governing body.

With car manufacturers BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Honda and Toyota having issued statements in Bahrain expressing their concern about the revelations made by the News of the World last weekend, now ADAC has also voiced its own worries about the impact of the affair.

In a statement issued by the organisation, it confirmed that it had written to Mosley asking him to consider his future, as it did not feel it appropriate he could continue in his role against the backdrop of the scandal.

The release said: "In a letter to FIA president Max Mosley, the ADAC has distanced itself from events surrounding his person. According to the ADAC, the role of an FIA president who represents more than 100 million motorists worldwide should not be burdened by such an affair. Therefore, we ask the president to 'very carefully reconsider his role within the organisation'.

"According to the ADAC, the appropriate FIA process has to take care of the matter. It is in the interests of this world organisation to carry on with its duties without the burden of this affair."

Mosley wrote to all FIA national bodies, including the ADAC, earlier this week to apologise for any embarrassment that the affair had caused. He made it clear, however, that he had no intention of stepping down from his position because of what had happened.

"I have received a very large number of messages of sympathy and support from those within the FIA and the motor sport and motoring communities generally, suggesting that my private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role," wrote Mosley in the letter.

"I am grateful and with your support I intend to follow this advice."
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man every year formula-uno is getting more exciting :D lol drama drama drama, its like a reality show :D
 
Mosley sues the News of the World
Embattled FIA president Max Mosley has come out fighting by starting a legal battle with the Sunday tabloid that published a lurid story about his private life.
Shocking revelations emerged in last weekend's News of the World that have this week placed Mosley's position as one of most powerful men in motorsport under severe threat.
Although Mosley subsequently apologised to all facets of the FIA for any embarrassment caused, he cited "a covert investigation" to discredit him had been undertaken.
The newspaper printed allegations there was a Nazi connotation to the sex scandal, a claim the 67-year-old Mosley insisted was "entirely false".
Now he is determined to pursue the matter through the courts, with a statement confirming: "Lawyers representing Mr Mosley have today served proceedings against the News of the World claiming unlimited damages."
Mosley, though, appears to be facing a greater battle to save his job than he perhaps first anticipated.
Earlier this week, Mosley stated he had received a large number of messages of sympathy and support from within the FIA and the motor sport and motoring communities.
But over the past few days, a groundswell of negativity has slowly started to rise against him, with calls growing by the day for him to resign.
It is almost certain that regardless of the furore enveloping him, Mosley will resolutely stand firm until his fate is decided at an extraordinary general assembly of the FIA later this month.
The assembly comprises 222 national motoring organisations in 130 countries, and it is in their hands Mosley's fate rests.
And if the Dutch, German and Israeli motoring organisations are an indicator of the general feeling around the world, then Mosley's 15-year reign is approaching the end.
The Dutch motorsport federation, KNAF, have confirmed they will vote against Mosley at the meeting likely to take place in Paris.
"Because of his high-profile position, this can't be accepted," said KNAF president Arie Ruitenbeek of the lurid story that came to light in the News of the World.
"I have not received my invitation yet (to the FIA meeting), but we will go and vote for him to resign."
The ADAC (Allgemeiner Deutscher Automobil-Club) have asked Mosley to "very carefully reconsider his role."
Their statement read: "In a letter to FIA president Max Mosley, the ADAC has distanced itself from events surrounding his person.
"According to the ADAC, the role of an FIA president who represents more than 100 million motorists worldwide should not be burdened by such an affair.
"Therefore, we ask the president to very carefully reconsider his role within the organisation.
"According to the ADAC, the appropriate FIA process has to take care of the matter.
"It is in the interests of this world organisation to carry on with its duties without the burden of this affair."
Yitzhak Milstein, president of the Automobile and Touring Club of Israel (MEMSI), described the Sunday tabloid story as "shocking."
"It is especially surprising for us in view of the fact that our contacts with Mr Mosley along the years have always been proper and correct, and never gave an indication of what the recent story in the press may reflect," added Milstein.
"Once the whole thing is clarified and there is a better idea on how true is the published story, we will make our conclusions known, and they will certainly match the severity of the matter."
Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone has maintained he is "happy" with Mosley, but insists his future is in his own hands.
Ecclestone, the most powerful man in world motorsport, said: "This is an FIA thing, this is nothing to do with anyone else.
"It doesn't affect us in any shape or form. It's not what I think, it's what other people think.
"I'm happy with Max, I don't have any problems at all with Max.
"Max will know what he needs to do, he is the president of the FIA, he is the one who will decide what goes on in the FIA, not me."
Three-times Formula One world champion Sir Jackie Stewart has also called on Mosley to quit, insisting his position is "untenable."
Stewart's comments are unsurprising given the animosity that lingers between himself and Mosley, who at one point last year described the Scot as "a certified half-wit."
But in lending his weight to the furore raging around Mosley, Stewart said: "For a head of a global federation it is simply not possible to keep his position.
"It is not only bad for motorsport in general, but also bad for the whole motorsport industry.
"We have a world of different cultures and you cannot accept such things to happen.
"I don't think a head of a federation can survive such a thing and simply just keep his position.
"It is now up to the FIA and to Mosley himself. He has to do the right thing for the sport now.
"If he would be in a commercial company he would already be gone."
Britain's own motoring organisation, the MSA (Motor Sports Association) are so far refusing to be drawn into the debate.
Alan Gow, who is chairman of the MSA, is the man who would attend the assembly hearing, potentially with chief executive Colin Hilton.
However, an MSA spokesperson said: "We are simply maintaining a watching brief at this stage to see how things develop."
Reuters
 

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