M3/M4 BMW M3 Spy pics 400hp V8!

[Matt]

y dont we have a pole and see what other people think. THen we can decide wchih is more innovative. Ok. Blue tooth was one example out of many, I didnt know you would keep talking about blue tooth. I'll post the pole on internal combustion and see what other people have to say.

 

[Porsche Guy]

y dont we have a pole and see what other people think. THen we can decide wchih is more innovative. Ok. Blue tooth was one example out of many, I didnt know you would keep talking about blue tooth. I'll post the pole on internal combustion and see what other people have to say.

sure, in a board called GermanCarForum i wonder who is going to come out on top.

 

[Matt]

hahahaha. You have a point. I dont think your going to win............vote anyway.
but were arguing on the wrong thread. We need to move it too that other thread.

 

[Snake Vargas]

A poll isn't suitable for finding out whose position is justifiable. Too many people will just vote on prior impressions without seeing the ongoing discussion and the points brought up and the points shot down.

Do it through discussion. The poll counts for nought.

 

[Matt]

Again, like I said... you might have driven the E90 and the C-class (I only drove the E90), but since you got your license only 6 months ago, there's no way you can say that you are an experienced driver. Yes being an experienced driver means that you've had a lot of time to drive... playing video games and watching car chases in movies don't count

HAHAHA. Yea I get all my info from watching BMW films and playing gran tourismo . Your right, I personally dont have enough experience behind my belt, but every person who writes about driving the M5 (or any BMW for that matter) raves about the handling. They may not like the styling but I have never heard anyone complain of the driving aspects of a BMW. People love the M5 even more so in that way. I have heard complaints about C6 corvette suspension and quality. (see top gear)

 

[klier]

What I not get is the rear of the car in all those photoshops and drawings.

It looks pretty clear by now that the backlights will be on the same place as the current 3er coupe, and not in the bumper a la 6er....

 

[Beemer B773ER]

What I not get is the rear of the car in all those photoshops and drawings.

It looks pretty clear by now that the backlights will be on the same place as the current 3er coupe, and not in the bumper a la 6er....

Not sure what you mean there Klier ?

The only lights that are placed in the bumper of the 6er are the reverse lights,..and from the spyshots on the first page n some PS's, it seems like the 3er coupe lights are going to be exactly like the 6er, except that the reverse lights are going to be situated with the main light compartment,..a la f/l 7er (that is, it'll have a small rectangle bar like in the f/l 7er for the reverse light).

You can see what i'm talking about in this picture:



Whether those are the final production lights, or just some lights fitted on to the test-cars i'm not sure, but it seems like the final thing, especially if you notice how the lights are wrapped around the side and rear of the car, much like the 6er's rear lights are, ..but just without the big boot.


Well, that's my view on this.

 

[Deutsch]

The 3er had the same exact taillights as what you see here on the coupe, therefore they're just for guise, BMW is too smart as to just give away any element of the design. This is what will set this car apart from it's rivals, would'nt want the design to play into the hands of the jealous competition? What you saw in the Huckfeldt PS'S is the real thing, and boy does it look good!

This along w/ the R35 SKyline and 997 Turbo are bound to be my favorite sports cars as well as my favorite cars.

 

[klier]

Not sure what you mean there Klier ?

The only lights that are placed in the bumper of the 6er are the reverse lights,..

Sorry, I meant licence plate! Not rear lights.

 

[Beemer B773ER]

Well Klier, you can never trust BMW when it comes to camo'ed cars.

I'm sure this being a coupe, they'd want a similar rear end look to that of the 6er (without the huge butt).
I'm guessing it will have similar wrap-around lights to the 6er, while having a butt more like the E90 3er in terms of it not being as "Bangle-butt like the 6er is".
The licence plate will most likely be situated in the bumper with a clean looking back like the 6er with the BMW badge located in the centre of the rear bootlid.

I just think that because it seems like how BMW do their coupes now, with the licence plate down-low, so that they can have a clean and empty looking butt.

IMO ofcourse.

 

[Alx]

Here's AutoBild's version:

 

[Alx]

more pics: dont know if their up here yet....






Four door version M3.

 

[warot]

That 4 door E90 is a sleeper. That would be hilarious (well not really) if they produced the M3 like that, but they won't.

 

[Carbon]

Porsche guy, it sounds like your just a little upset that the M6 is going to smoke the GT3 and that stupid four door thing there coming out with. Yes I think BMW should have painted the top of the car but can you really call it a "snobby little kid". BTW if your going to have CF anywhere the roof is the best place so I dont think its a gimmick. That is exactly where you want the rigidity without the weight so if a car is going to have it anywhere the roof makes the most sense. (i just liked this smiley, it has nothing to do with the post)

I just want to say how wrong this is. As is, the the old GT3 and the new Carrera S already hold their own in a straight line (since comparing handling would be a David and Goliath affair). I'd bet the new GT3 will be faster than the M6 and not get smoked.

 

[Carbon]

Also, the M5 and M6 don't have aluminum chassis. The cars make extensive use of the lightweight material, but the whole chassis is not aluminum like in say an Audi A8 or Ferrari F430. Also if you read the press release on the M5 carefully, it says "almost 50:50 weight distribution," so it's not 50:50 as you would like to suggest.

I don't base every claim I make about cars on personal experience; a lot of it is based on many seperate reviews by automotive journalists and other people. The way you are talking here just seems wrong. I can't find a good adjective to describe it, but as others said you're acting like a know-it-all when you obviously don't have the experience to back it up. I've driven my fair share of cars for my age, but I always try to get info from more than one source and not take a lot of the things I read at face value without knowing for sure. I think it was just the fact that you were trying to oppose someone's argument so strongly, and that you made claims that are obviously false are a big part of the problem. I feel bad that I can't articulate this point better than I did, but I tried.

*Edit: Maybe it's the fanboyism that makes you go too far sometimes.

 

[Zafiro]

I just want to say how wrong this is. As is, the the old GT3 and the new Carrera S already hold their own in a straight line (since comparing handling would be a David and Goliath affair). I'd bet the new GT3 will be faster than the M6 and not get smoked.

not in straightline acceleration but probably around a track but Im not sure about that either since M6 CLS is getting 550ho vs GT3 410hp, both are probably not going to weigh much although GT3 will probably weigh less. but time will tell, we cant predict the future so let's wait and see.

 

[Carbon]

What are the M6's acceleration times?
Do we even know that they'll make a CSL version? It would seem kind of weird to make a "coupe sports light" or w/e it stands for version of such a big car.

 

[Zafiro]

What are the M6's acceleration times?
Do we even know that they'll make a CSL version? It would seem kind of weird to make a "coupe sports light" or w/e it stands for version of such a big car.

According to an interview with Brunhke : Yes ! (I also heard Scott mentioned it)

I've seen different times for standard M6 to 200km/h, from 12.8 sec to 13.6 sec

EDIT: I thought we talked about M6 CSL vs GT3, not M6 vs GT3. My mistake then.
If it standard M6 we talk about then the new GT3 will beat the M6 around a track easily, even a 997 S is faster than M6 around a track.

 

[klier]

Well, when BMW FINALLY decides to go with ceramic brakes too, the 997 S will be nowhere to be seen when racing an M6 on the track, trust me.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Well, when BMW FINALLY decides to go with ceramic brakes too, the 997 S will be nowhere to be seen when racing an M6 on the track, trust me.

No need for a M6 + CB, altough every BMW fan would love that, just wait for the E90 M3. Remeber the the M3 CSL is faster than a GT3 around Nring.
But if BMW decides to make the M4/Z4 M CSL, now that would be the master of all M track cars.