5 Series (G30) BMW 5 Series (G30/31/32) Spy Pics & Info Discussion

[m-power]

Not accurate, but IMO very nice

 

[Kowalski]

Not accurate, but IMO very nice

It's a shame that the actual car probably won't look like that, because that looks very nice.

 

[SCOTT27]

Hmm is that not a 4er Gran Coupe?

 

[tomazino]

Not accurate, but IMO very nice

Hmm is that not a 4er Gran Coupe?

Yes, 4GC with some details from new 5 series....

 

[SCOTT27]

I think the designer has done an interesting job in bring a little extra dynasm to the Gran Turismo. As an example apart from the more stretched roofline and wheelbase the rear lights are thinner and have a more sportier profile.

As you can see from Matski's haul of spy shots. There is less bulk around the rear. Again though look at the definition below the character line and how important it is to add broadness to the rear arches so they don't look completely underwhelmed by lower specification wheels. That is now becoming a stronger feature within BMW design to introduce further stance to add three dimensional broadness and athleticism so the body is not completely flat when looking at the rear.
Remember GT is the anti SUV/MPV. It has similar traits but in a more car like outline. At first the ideas were drawn towards MPVs a rival for the R-Klasse Mercedes-Benz which I think is still built for and sold in China? I see lots of them in Shanghai.
There are looking at a more progressive shooting break style for the GT series future or indeed an additional series. Keep all of its traits such as the semi-commanding driving position but add a more distinctive and lightly more practical rear but not make it a full SAV but a model in between the standard Touring and a full X model.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Jesus that looks horrible. And then they will call it a 6er...

 

[Deleted member 1071]

...and once again I exclaim: "so'ne schiache Schoaßdromme.".

Yeah, it's a Bavarian thang...

 

[martinbo]

It's the automotive Bavarian dumpling!

 

[Centurion]

I think the designer has done an interesting job in bring a little extra dynasm to the Gran Turismo. As an example apart from the more stretched roofline and wheelbase the rear lights are thinner and have a more sportier profile.

As you can see from Matski's haul of spy shots. There is less bulk around the rear. Again though look at the definition below the character line and how important it is to add broadness to the rear arches so they don't look completely underwhelmed by lower specification wheels. That is now becoming a stronger feature within BMW design to introduce further stance to add three dimensional broadness and athleticism so the body is not completely flat when looking at the rear.
Remember GT is the anti SUV/MPV. It has similar traits but in a more car like outline. At first the ideas were drawn towards MPVs a rival for the R-Klasse Mercedes-Benz which I think is still built for and sold in China? I see lots of them in Shanghai.
There are looking at a more progressive shooting break style for the GT series future or indeed an additional series. Keep all of its traits such as the semi-commanding driving position but add a more distinctive and lightly more practical rear but not make it a full SAV but a model in between the standard Touring and a full X model.

I think it will remain the type of car you convince yourself and others around that is great, but a week after purchase ask yourself "What have I done?".

Cars have been growing in size over generations but this is one of the the few which should do the reverse, because it's monstrous in size. Active rear steering must be a standard option or else it will remain un-manoeuvrable for all but those who drive and park where space is a big luxury.

 

[chonkoa]

I think the designer has done an interesting job in bring a little extra dynasm to the Gran Turismo. As an example apart from the more stretched roofline and wheelbase the rear lights are thinner and have a more sportier profile.

As you can see from Matski's haul of spy shots. There is less bulk around the rear. Again though look at the definition below the character line and how important it is to add broadness to the rear arches so they don't look completely underwhelmed by lower specification wheels. That is now becoming a stronger feature within BMW design to introduce further stance to add three dimensional broadness and athleticism so the body is not completely flat when looking at the rear.
Remember GT is the anti SUV/MPV. It has similar traits but in a more car like outline. At first the ideas were drawn towards MPVs a rival for the R-Klasse Mercedes-Benz which I think is still built for and sold in China? I see lots of them in Shanghai.
There are looking at a more progressive shooting break style for the GT series future or indeed an additional series. Keep all of its traits such as the semi-commanding driving position but add a more distinctive and lightly more practical rear but not make it a full SAV but a model in between the standard Touring and a full X model.

Yawwwwnnnnn....
As you can see, I can see with my eyes that I don't need someone to point out the obvious as you can see.

 

[SCOTT27]

Yawwwwnnnnn....
As you can see, I can see with my eyes that I don't need someone to point out the obvious as you can see.

If it was so obvious why did you reply to state the obvious?
It was a response to another member who asked me a question. For you however,
No Other reason than to launch another personal attack.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

If it was so obvious why did you reply to state the obvious?
It was a response to another member who asked me a question. For you however,
No Other reason than to launch another personal attack.

Which member and what question? You've not quoted anybody. You appear to be just making a statement.

 

[nikola1984]

From a Munich perspective, the new BMW 6 Series GTis the largest new product of the year 2017 – at least in relation to the length of the vehicle. The successor to the current 5 Series GT uses the long wheelbase of the 5 Series, which is only available in China, and will almost surpass the five-meter mark. This gives the 6 GT the best prerequisites for a more elegant roofing line, which justifies the rise of the concept in the 6 Series and eliminates the biggest criticism of the first generation: many potential customers could not make friends with the rear design of the Gran Turismo.

With the 2017 BMW 6 Series GT, these problems will be a thing of the past, yet with a small sacrifice: the trunk is a few liters smaller than before, but should still offer more than enough space for luggage. Together with the decision for a slightly longer length and a slightly flatter roof line, this ensures that the rear end can be drawn much more dynamically and thus more pleasing than before.


A few months before the start of the market in September, the view on the engine range is becoming more and more concrete. As expected, the BMW 620d GT, which will be the first BMW 6 Series to be equipped with a four-cylinder engine, marks the entry. The BMW 630i GT also comes with four cylinders, all other models available for market launch are powered by straight-six-cylinder engines. With a slight delay, the BMW M650i GT with V8-Biturbo is likely to close the engine range to the top.

Between the four-cylinder and eight-cylinder BMW places several models with six cylinders in the 6 GT series, whereby the BMW 630d GT – at least in Europe – will play the main role. On the other hand, the BMW 640i GT with the B58 engine is probably the best-selling model in the world. Customers in the U.S. and China are still not interested in diesel engines. The BMW M650d GT with quadturbo diesel is not yet fully endorsed, but from a technical point of view, there is no corresponding offer from the competitors.

The plug-in hybrid of the BMW iPerformance will certainly be an alternative for fuel-efficient vehicles. Shortly after the start of the production, the BMW 630e GT will be offered with a four-cylinder petrol engine and an electric motor. Later, 640e and 650e could supplement the program with more power. Regardless of the performance class, all plug-in hybrids come in the near future with approximately 50 kilometers of electrical range and an EU standard consumption of about 2.0 liters per 100 kilometers.

 

[martinbo]

BMW's having a whale of a time with that GT badge.

 

[Monster]

BMW's having a whale of a time with that GT badge.

While they butcher the 6 series badge at the same time.

 

[SCOTT27]

While they butcher the 6 series badge at the same time.

I like to think of it as how there is a 2er Coupe and then there is the 2er Active and Gran Tourer which co-exist side by side and are identified by their concept, one is a sportier RWD Coupe, the other a practical,spacious FWD MPV.

What from what I have learned they plan to do something with an all new 6er in regards to the sportier side. Make it more of a 911 competitor not a luxury GT which will be provided by the all-new 8er which will also be offered in Gran Coupe and M8 models.
A 6er as a Sports Car certainly has room to co-exist between the 4er and 8er without the need to be reflectively practical.

And have the additional luxury and more practical side of the 6er with the Gran Turismo.

It will eventually all make sense as they plan to offer an additional 4er model.

 

[domleo999]

I like to think of it as how there is a 2er Coupe and then there is the 2er Active and Gran Tourer which co-exist side by side and are identified by their concept, one is a sportier RWD Coupe, the other a practical,spacious FWD MPV.

What from what I have learned they plan to do something with an all new 6er in regards to the sportier side. Make it more of a 911 competitor not a luxury GT which will be provided by the all-new 8er which will also be offered in Gran Coupe and M8 models.
A 6er as a Sports Car certainly has room to co-exist between the 4er and 8er without the need to be reflectively practical.

And have the additional luxury and more practical side of the 6er with the Gran Turismo.

It will eventually all make sense as they plan to offer an additional 4er model.

Interesting. So we know we will get a rebranded 4GT, but what about convertible/ gran coupe variants of the new 6 coupe? Will it be bigger than a 4er?

 

[SCOTT27]

Interesting. So we know we will get a rebranded 4GT, but what about convertible/ gran coupe variants of the new 6 coupe? Will it be bigger than a 4er?

So far all they are talking about is a Coupe. Cabrio or Roadster could come later?
Gran Coupe I do not think is likely. The 8er/M8 Gran Coupe would be more market inclined don't you think?
But they have registered additional CS designation for the M8 as they have for M2 and M4 and yes M6.

 

[domleo999]

So far all they are talking about is a Coupe. Cabrio or Roadster could come later?
Gran Coupe I do not think is likely. The 8er/M8 Gran Coupe would be more market inclined don't you think?
But they have registered additional CS designation for the M8 as they have for M2 and M4 and yes M6.

That makes sense - although not even a concept yet - do you think it will have a similar relationship to the 5 series the same way the 3er and 4er have? Or is it a stand alone car? Do you personally think it will be more accommodating that a 4er?

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I like to think of it as how there is a 2er Coupe and then there is the 2er Active and Gran Tourer which co-exist side by side

Which is also ridiculous.