AutoBild - AMG Super Test


Is there any way to translate the article into english? and/or is there an english version. this is my first time on a thread. iam thinking of purchasing an 2007 s65 amg but am concerned with the ride quality. with the sport tuned abc suspension tarnish the luxurious aspect of the s class? and will the s65 become discontinued for the newly s63 produced model. please help

The S65 and S63 will be sold side by side. I wouldn't worry about the ride quality of the S65 AMG, it is still an S-Class. I'd guess it probably rides better than the S63 since the S63 is the sportiest S of them all dynamically.

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Damn AMG has a lot of cars. I'll take a SL55 and CL63 myself.

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haha, seems the M6 is faster than the fastest of the AMG gang from 0 -200KM.......M6 =12.8 SL65 the fastest AMG is 12.9
 
Translations!

They weren't as detailed as I'd hoped. So here are some quick references to the various cars. :t-cheers:

G55 AMG: The nightmare off every offroad enthusiast. Extremely fast, like a Porsche. On the Autobahn, one has to wonder if this thing can go any faster (200 km/h+). Probably or probably not. The coefficiency of drag limits the top speed performance of the G55 AMG. Back in the late 70s, the base 72-hp diesel 240GD was good for 117 km/h.

SL55 AMG: A very fast sporty GT cruiser. Comfortable and aggressive and brutal once the pedal is mashed. From 0-200 km/h, the SL55 AMG is unstoppable. From 200 km/h onwards, it slows down a bit. This car surprised us with its handling qualities. Confident and responsive, make for plenty of driving fun.

SLK55 AMG: Cheaper than the SL55 AMG, but just as much fun and even better in regards to handling. The steering is direct and the lighter weight means the car never runs out of steam, no matter what speed you're driving at. Fun car. The cockpit is a little cramped though.

C55 AMG sedan and estate: The driving experience of the SLK cannot be matched by the C55 AMG. Despite a 367-hp V8, the C55 AMG and C55 AMG T remain comfortable cruising cars with a tornado of power at their disposal. The C55's are less at home on the racetrack, but feel more like cars meant for long distance driving with the family.

E63 AMG: One of the newest AMG's, the E63 AMG is an impressive machine. Unlike the older E55 AMG, it accelerates with less brutallity, but with the manners of a gentleman. The acceleration is smooth, fast and despite the lack of a Kompressor, still somewhat brutal. Even though the torque ratings have gone down compared to the E55, the electronic systems and wheels still struggle to help the car put all that power down on the road. Difficult to control on wet roads. On dry roads, the E63 AMG is everything a sports sedan should be. The suspension is sturdier, the steering is direct and the 2-ton car feels agile and "light".

S63 AMG: The heavier S63 AMG won't be as agile as the E63 AMG, but it comes with 525-horsepower, which help, a little. Despite this, we found the S-Class AMG to be very agile and easy to control. Handling was impressive for such a large and heavy car. The ABC suspension aids handling and comfort. In fact, you cannot help but feel relaxed inside the big S-Class. The standard massage seats also help to relax the driver. Think of the car as a sporty and comfortable sofa on wheels (:D ).

ML63 AMG: Heavier than the S-Class with 2.3-tons is the ML63 AMG. No problem for the 6.3 V8, it's got the power. 4.9 seconds from 0-100 km/h is enough to silence the critics. We hear the ML63 AMG should also be capable offroad, but we didn't take it there.

R63 AMG: If the ICE is late again, why not hop into an R63 AMG and drive to your destination yourself? The R-Class is the perfect long-distance family caravan, but in AMG form, is rather useless. Despite the power, we didn't find the R63 AMG sporty. Even with more power, it wouldn't become sporty. The heavy car makes the ML63 AMG appear like a well-handling car. Overall visibility isn't that great and the enormous size of the LWB version makes driving it a pain and requires full concentration on the drivers part - wherever you go.

Have to go eat now. The rest coming up when I am done. :D
 
another review saying that S class is a good handler..about time ppl got anything else out their minds:D


S63 AMG: The heavier S63 AMG won't be as agile as the E63 AMG, but it comes with 525-horsepower, which help, a little. Despite this, we found the S-Class AMG to be very agile and easy to control. Handling was impressive for such a large and heavy car. The ABC suspension aids handling and comfort. In fact, you cannot help but feel relaxed inside the big S-Class. The standard massage seats also help to relax the driver. Think of the car as a sporty and comfortable sofa on wheels ( ).
 
another review saying that S class is a good handler..about time ppl got anything else out their minds:D

It's not really described as the "best handler", but more like a good handling qualities for a car of this size and weight. :usa7uh:

Working on the other translations now! :t-cheers:
 
So in other words, none of these cars (other than the SLK55) are ideally suited for track use, which is not a suprise and is consistent with previous reviews from many different magazines. All of them, however, are powerful ROAD cars that can carry passengers with reasonable comfort.

Thanks wimmer for the brief translations!:usa7uh:
 
oh why oh why cant Autobild make a comparison like this for BMW: M3, M3 CS, M3 CSL, Z4M Roadster, Z4M Coupe, M5 and M6 :crying6cc
 
It's not really described as the "best handler", but more like a good handling qualities for a car of this size and weight. :usa7uh:

Working on the other translations now! :t-cheers:

ohh yes i understand that very well but i was just pointing out the fact that it handles well for its size.. opposite to many ppls belives..
 
CLK63 AMG: Compact and light (well, 1.76 tons [1.88 for the convertible]), the CLK63 AMG inspires confidence. 481-horsepower move the coupe and convertible around and thanks to the torque reserves, the car is very agile and handles like a professional. In fact, we found the CLK63 AMG to be very enjoyable in curves thanks to the suspension and steering setup. Even better, the whole time, you're relaxed and enjoy the car.

CLS63 AMG: Like the E63 AMG basically, but with a little more style. Like the E-Class, the rear wheels transmit a ton of power to the asphalt and leave behind rubber and smoke.

CL63 AMG: The most expensive and most exclusive car in this comparison. The new CL63 AMG doesn't like to be driven on the track but feels more at home on the left lane of the Autobahn.


That's actually it. The S65 and SL65 were briefly mentioned but with less detail. I guess the CL63 AMG was so "slow" because it was so heavy. Either way, US car magazines will probably rock it to 60 in 4.4 seconds. :D

Autobild recommends the SLK55 AMG as the sportiest AMG car.
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ohh yes i understand that very well but i was just pointing out the fact that it handles well for its size.. opposite to many ppls belives..

Like I said when I drove the brand new W221 S500? Remember that one? :D

On other forums, people thought I was lying about the handling qualities. :eusa_danc
 
yes i remember afaik you where the first in the world with a review:D
 
So in other words, none of these cars (other than the SLK55) are ideally suited for track use, which is not a suprise and is consistent with previous reviews from many different magazines. All of them, however, are powerful ROAD cars that can carry passengers with reasonable comfort.

Thanks wimmer for the brief translations!:usa7uh:

The SLK and CLK seemed the best track cars from the bunch. :usa7uh:

The other AMG's are basically typical Mercedes-Benzes with more power and better handling but still loyal to the Mercedes core philosophy. Hope you weren't offended with the C55 AMG translation. Autobild didn't really seem to find it sporty, probably because it is one of the "oldies" in this comparison. :D

No problem. :t-cheers:
 
The SLK and CLK seemed the best track cars from the bunch. :usa7uh:

The other AMG's are basically typical Mercedes-Benzes with more power and better handling but still loyal to the Mercedes core philosophy. Hope you weren't offended with the C55 AMG translation. Autobild didn't really seem to find it sporty, probably because it is one of the "oldies" in this comparison. :D

No problem. :t-cheers:

No offence taken. I'm not going to cry because Autobild says my car is a good family car and not the best track car. I have 2 carseats for my kids at the back seat of my C55!! And I can still enjoy myself at the track with the same car.

What is a little inconsistent is that they thought the CLK63 was a decent track car. The W209 CLK and W203 chassis are essentially the same (the W209 was built from the W203 platform). We know the facelifted C-class all got the direct control upgrades that improved handling significantly compared to the pre-facelifted cars. I assume the CLK got the same upgrades as well. The main difference between the CLK63 coupe and C55 sedan is the engine and the transmission (7 speed vs 5 speed). In fact, the CLK63 is a heavier car than the C55.

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but Autobild didn't do instrumented tests on ALL of these cars, right? Some cars have 0-200km/h times, while others don't. Some acceleration are times just published numbers from Mercedes Benz.
 
No offence taken. I'm not going to cry because Autobild says my car is a good family car and not the best track car. I have 2 carseats for my kids at the back seat of my C55!! And I can still enjoy myself at the track with the same car.

What is a little inconsistent is that they thought the CLK63 was a decent track car. The W209 CLK and W203 chassis are essentially the same (the W209 was built from the W203 platform). We know the facelifted C-class all got the direct control upgrades that improved handling significantly compared to the pre-facelifted cars. I assume the CLK got the same upgrades as well. The main difference between the CLK63 coupe and C55 sedan is the engine and the transmission (7 speed vs 5 speed). In fact, the CLK63 is a heavier car than the C55.

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but Autobild didn't do instrumented tests on ALL of these cars, right? Some cars have 0-200km/h times, while others don't. Some acceleration are times just published numbers from Mercedes Benz.

Good to hear you're still having fun with the C55 AMG. :t-cheers:

I was actually wondering about the C55 AMG / CLK63 AMG since the CLK is based off the C-Class chassis, you're correct. The article wasn't very descriptive. They were detailed on the technical data and performance times, but the car descriptions were very basic and not in-depth sadly.

However, we can assume that the CLK receives some extra suspension and steering tuning from AMG. In fact, I am willing to bet that this is just the case. I've driven the pre-facelift CLK240 (2.6 V6) here in Europe and found it to handle better than the pre-facelift W203 C-Class, which I've also driven.

If the current CLK63 AMG is a good handler as Autobild says, imagine the next generation C63 AMG. :eusa_danc
 
Good to hear you're still having fun with the C55 AMG. :t-cheers:

I was actually wondering about the C55 AMG / CLK63 AMG since the CLK is based off the C-Class chassis, you're correct. The article wasn't very descriptive. They were detailed on the technical data and performance times, but the car descriptions were very basic and not in-depth sadly.

However, we can assume that the CLK receives some extra suspension and steering tuning from AMG. In fact, I am willing to bet that this is just the case. I've driven the pre-facelift CLK240 (2.6 V6) here in Europe and found it to handle better than the pre-facelift W203 C-Class, which I've also driven.

If the current CLK63 AMG is a good handler as Autobild says, imagine the next generation C63 AMG. :eusa_danc

I'm not so sure about whether AMG tuned the CLK63 differently than the C55 from a suspension/steering point of view, but you may be right.:t-hands:

What I do know is that the CLK63 isn't that much faster than the C55 on Hockenheim (according to Sport Auto). 1.18,4 min vs 1.18,6 min. That's a 0.2 second advantage for the CLK63, which is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the C55 in a straightline, meaning that the cornering speeds can't be that different at all.

Anyways, thanks again for the translations. I think I've posted enough on this forum for today....:D
 

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