Comparison tests AutoBild Sportscars - RS7 Sportback vs M6 GC Competition vs CLS63 AMG-S vs Panamera Turbo

[m-ch]

Ur not getting my point m-ch, ive never raced an m6 cp from 200km/h to 300km/h and now that my rs7 is tunned itll be pointless, what im trying to say and been trying to say is that with just an ecu tune ur getting 162 more to the crank and thats a crazy number, all it costs is 2k or 3k, without adding other mods like exhausts or air intake. I totally respect ur opninion about the comparison bettween both ur rs6 and ur m6 cp but they both are totally different, and i bet u if u race both the rs7 and rs6 to 300 km/h the rs7 will win it due to better aerodynamics, and dont forget that the rs6 loses more power to the wheels then the m6 because of the power delivery to all 4 wheels. Rwd cars are normally faster then awd cars on long runs. Pp-performance has done a good job to the new m6 but whatever apr did to the rs7 is magic. Heres a vid of the m6 with pp-performance stage 2 vs the old rs6 and the rs7 stage 2 vs the 997.2 turbo stage 2. Like that u can compare times.

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I think i do get your Point. You Said the rs6/7 engin has more potential to tune. I speak about stock vs stock..
Concerning tunning how can you know about the potential of the m5/6 if till today no tuner has cracked the ecu. All tuners on m5/6 works with biggy pack( blackbox) witch simulates the ecu Running on lower boost, so in fact ecu is making more bost. Not Even topseed limiter is completly open, every body is Struggling with 327kmh (gearbox limiter).
So i think to see the real tuning potential of the m5/6 we still have to wait a Little bit.
A do agree with you allwheel drive isnt the best for highspeed, but maybe were you live you just dont care about highspeed as Highways ar limited. Luckley not in Germany.
By the way that Pp M6 cabrio on your vids is slower than Stock according to the times, so maybee not the best example
In the end of the day videos are just videos, the best prof of performance are for my part vbox hihgway runs, there you see what the engine pur power is able to deliver.
Enjoy your rs7 in good health

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[klier]

I've driven M5 F10 (standard) against RS6 C7 on German Autobahn and it was nice to see the M5 pulling away, even on damp roads.

 

[DeDe]

every body is Struggling with 327kmh (gearbox limiter).

I feel sorry them...

 

[m-ch]

I feel sorry them...

This was more to show that there is no real ecu tune for the m5/6 just via biggy pack. Somehow the ecu is communicating with bmw and sarts to reset when you Flash it. (Just from hearing, i am not the expert) there was a sort of prefactory software witch allows around 630hp, but every thing higher is just trough blackbox, which is by far note optimal for the engine, as it is just a boost increase without adapting important other Parameters/data

 

[BBA]

Can confirme your Times Running simualar with my m6 cp in stock trim(6.3-6.8) My rs6 in stock trim is around 7.6-8.4 but quicker out of the box. Both car just me on board same highway, different days

I measured without any passenger. I did many times 6.x. 6.4-6.9s.
My best 100-200 with additional passenger(110kg) was 7.0s.
I know you. We talked about idrive touchpad in 6 series last year (bimmerpost)
So m6 comp f13 has better times than official 100-200 in 7.3s

 

[m-ch]

I measured without any passenger. I did many times 6.x. 6.4-6.9s.
My best 100-200 with additional passenger(110kg) was 7.0s.
I know you. We talked about idrive touchpad in 6 series last year (another site)
So m6 comp f13 has better times than official 100-200 in 7.3s

I do remember you and you were right about the idrive controler. Yes very consistance acceleration on this car and the 30 secs up to 300kmh are extremly strong. Did you put yours on the dino yet. I think they must be underrated

 

[Zafiro]

BBA. I'm confused. Your photos are those in mph or km/h?

 

[DeDe]

BBA. I'm confused. Your photos are those in mph or km/h?

100-200mph in 6,4 seconds? (161-322 kph)

 

[BBA]

I do remember you and you were right about the idrive controler. Yes very consistance acceleration on this car and the 30 secs up to 300kmh are extremly strong. Did you put yours on the dino yet. I think they must be underrated

Noo, I didn't put on dyno yet. But I'm planning it. I think that stock m6 cp f13 have about 650-660hp

three monts ago I replaced idrive with touchpad (idrvie knob + tbx + coding), enabled full high-beam assistant and dvd in montion

BBA. I'm confused. Your photos are those in mph or km/h?

km/h

 

[MoSs]

I think i do get your Point. You Said the rs6/7 engin has more potential to tune. I speak about stock vs stock..
Concerning tunning how can you know about the potential of the m5/6 if till today no tuner has cracked the ecu. All tuners on m5/6 works with biggy pack( blackbox) witch simulates the ecu Running on lower boost, so in fact ecu is making more bost. Not Even topseed limiter is completly open, every body is Struggling with 327kmh (gearbox limiter).
So i think to see the real tuning potential of the m5/6 we still have to wait a Little bit.
A do agree with you allwheel drive isnt the best for highspeed, but maybe were you live you just dont care about highspeed as Highways ar limited. Luckley not in Germany.
By the way that Pp M6 cabrio on your vids is slower than Stock according to the times, so maybee not the best example
In the end of the day videos are just videos, the best prof of performance are for my part vbox hihgway runs, there you see what the engine pur power is able to deliver.
Enjoy your rs7 in good health

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We have some very long highways here in cali but the problem is traffic. I know that ive raced an m6 cp on the highway when my rs7 was stock and he didnt have a chance, maybe wrong driver, i dont know. we can post many videos but none of us will be convinced. I agree with u that the rs7 will die out at the top end but what im trying to say is with just a software tune problem is solved. Ive heard about bmw tuners not being able to crack the ecu, but thats only on the m5/6 cp. they did on the x6m and didnt get much power.

This argument will never end, but one thing forsure is that both are brilliant cars. Ill talk all day about this with a gentleman like u but when the ignorants get involved just disgusts me.

Enjoy ur m6 and be safe

 

[m-ch]

Noo, I didn't put on dyno yet. But I'm planning it. I think that stock m6 cp f13 have about 650-660hp

three monts ago I replaced idrive with touchpad (idrvie knob + tbx + coding), enabled full high-beam assistant and dvd in montion

km/h

Looks great...

 

[MoSs]

Stage 2 RS7 vs stage ?? F10 M5

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[m-ch]

There is no Point tu run 2 Wheel Drive vs 4wheel Drive from a stand. My rs6 can Start on every condition so mutch harder then the m6. But as stated highspeed highway roll to top end the m6 just pulls so hard. Imo döttingerhöhe m5 cp curent Sport Auto supertest with 295 kmh vers 280 kmh Rs6 or 289 kmh 991 turbos is a big statement