6 Series 2017 BMW 6 Series Rumors

[chonkoa]

It is not as black and white as that. Otherwise, F1 cars wouldn't be moving. For one, less weight means you can use taller gearing for the same acceleration which in turn means less torque the tires have to deal with. But more importantly powering out of a corner, a lighter car needs less of the total available grip from a tire's circle of traction in the lateral direction which in turn means more is available in the longitudinal direction for acceleration. A lighter car also means you can use softer springs, which in turn means more weight transfer.

And of course lesser the rest of the car weighs the more weight you can dedicate to bigger wheels and tires (which will increase available grip disproportionately), and still have the same or better performance/fuel consumption figures.

Actually it is that straightforward, weight(force) equals down force.
All a gear does is control the engine speed which has a direct relationship with the torque curve.
The introduction of the gear also increases parasitic losses along the drive train.
F1 cars have aerodynamics that provides downforce whilst in motion- that is why launch control is critical from a stationary position, to arrest the engine speed.
The tyres are a different story for a separate discussion to avoid conflation.

 

[domleo999]

@SCOTT27 Rumours about the next 6er having reduced exterior dimensions? Any idea if this is true?

 

[SCOTT27]

Reduce it to a 4er?
I do not see the 6er straying far from its roots.
A 6er needs to seat four like the E24 but also the CS/CSi/CSL E9 before it.

 

[mickaBZH]

For me it's the next 6er, but AMS and another sites think it's the 8er, who's right?

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/bmw-8er-2019-alle-infos-fotos-daten-preise-7210493.html

 

[SCOTT27]

That's the 6er.

 

[domleo999]

WOOOOW! FINALY A SPY

 

[klier]

The front somehow reminds me of the new A5 coupe.

 

[domleo999]

That's the 6er.

Talk to me about dimensions scott, what should we expect? Will it have a clear relationship with the 5er?

Increased size? Better rear leg room?

 

[domleo999]

The front somehow reminds me of the new A5 coupe.

It kinda reminds me of the z5 roadster at the front

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Could we combine the two threads?
http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/next-generation-6-a-true-sportscar.50599/page-4

 

[SCOTT27]

Talk to me about dimensions scott, what should we expect? Will it have a clear relationship with the 5er?

Increased size? Better rear leg room?

It will be a 2+2 meaning only if you are small children. Hence the more decreasing roofline and shallow glasshouse as evident here.

 

[Matski]

Proportions look good from what we see here, reminds me of this:

posted in this thread... http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/next-generation-6-a-true-sportscar.50599/page-3

I hope it doesn't get either the G11 or G30 face though.

 

[domleo999]

Proportions look good from what we see here, reminds me of this:

posted in this thread... http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/next-generation-6-a-true-sportscar.50599/page-3

I hope it doesn't get either the G11 or G30 face though.

Your right, it does.

From the spy, it's looks like the kidneys are significantly lower that the lights again, and the lights seem to follow downwards towards the grille

 

[BMW3GT]

Woha 10/10 easily

 

[John Galt]

Love the roofline. Looks like a Fastback. This car will be beautiful.
The 8 will be even better

 

[SCOTT27]

Looking through my list of artists who have had internship at Munich , Creativity remains after they leave the studios and ideas flourish. I would like to think some ideas can be found in pass-the-time sketches like this.

 

[domleo999]

A lot more exciting that the upcoming E coupe anyway - we don't know the interior, front or rear unlike some..

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

looks real good, but I do wonder how this will be differentiated enough to minimize cannibalizing the upcoming Z5's sales.

 

[bombardier01]

another shot.. looks good btw.

http://www.motor1.com/news/98704/bmw-8-series-spy-photos/

 

[Matski]

Some quick "off-the-screen" measurements.. if those wheels are 18"-19" then the wheelbase would be 2.5m - 2.6m. The current 6-er is 2855mm ... even if they were twenties and I was out by a couple of inches it's still noticeably more compact than the current one.

.. I think they a definately scaling the 6 down, which kind of goes along with the idea of them making it sportier. Though it makes me worry that the GC becomes a little silly size and proportion wise -- and that reinforces the idea they've skipped it in favour of the 5/6GT....

.. Makes the Convertible seem a little less likely too, since it might encroach a bit on the Z5 (depending on how they position that).