BMW at the Geneva International Motor Show 2017

[klier]

BMW don't seem to have exciting new models launched at Geneva, wonder if its the same case this year?

Every* BMW is exiting.

*Except the ones that suck

 

[EnI]

Don't expect "much" from BMW Group till 2021.

Apart from new Mks of existing models and regular facelifts the most exciting offerings will include brand new i8 Roadster, X2 SAC and X7 SAV.

Some special sport(ier) versions ala i3s, i8s, M2 CS, M4 CS.

There will be some rebadging. Eg. 5erGT -> 6er GT; 6er -> 8er etc.

MINI Countryman & BMW X3 will get full-electric versions in 2020 and 2019.

Rolls-Royce will introduce brand new Cullinan LAV (Luxury Activity Vehicle).

The next exciting era starts in 2021 with iNext vehicle, fully electric & autonomous. Following by Mk2 BMW i models. And hybridization & electrification of other core models beyond X3.

Ver2.0 modular platforms (both UKL and CLAR) will be made in full electrification in mind. So, they won't be modular only by size but also by type of powertrain. They will be truly universal. Very costly R&D! Therefore BMW is piling up cash. Also much will be invested in new battery tech (solid state), autonomous driving & mobility services (car & ride sharing etc).

Also BMW is creating a safety net for the case of new import / border taxes in US, various trade wars around the globe, hard Brexit scenario etc.

 

[klier]

Don't expect "much" from BMW Group till 2021.

Well, it could be worse. Like making ugly shit for the sake of making it, like MB with that AMG 4 door monstrosity.

A simple M5 will take care of that. No need for new models that act the same as existing models.

 

[SCOTT27]

Well, it could be worse. Like making ugly shit for the sake of making it, like MB with that AMG 4 door monstrosity.

A simple M5 will take care of that. No need for new models that act the same as existing models.

There will be an M8 Gran Coupe as well as the new M5. You should really get excited about the M2 and M4 CS models how to make greatness even greater, as well as the next X3 for instance the interior is much improved in layout,design,detail and consider to be important,quality.
Of all the Autobild renders shown of the X3 there is an older render that actually got the appearance right.
Who knows Klier you might even like the new Gran Turismo? again it's emphasis and first class excellence is sired from the 7er.

 

[klier]

Who knows Klier you might even like the new Gran Turismo?

I will, I liked the first one too. Even pre-LCI.

I only do not like the name, if it's going to be 6er GT. This car shouldn't be a 6er.

 

[Matski]

You should really get excited about the M2 and M4 CS models how to make greatness even greater

The anti-climax of a Competition Pack with M-Performance accessories included is palpable...

 

[Star&Car]

Another poor show by BMW.

 

[EnI]

Another poor show by BMW.

Most of them are. Nothing new here.

 

[Rainer271]

And hybridization & electrification of other core models beyond X3.

Ver2.0 modular platforms (both UKL and CLAR) will be made in full electrification in mind.

Does it means there are chances to see full electric 3/5/7-Series?

 

[EnI]

Does it means there are chances to see full electric 3/5/7-Series?

Yes.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Geneva has been poor for BMW for several years now. Oh well. I'm looking forward to seeing the M4 LCI on Friday.

 

[martinbo]

Not even an i8 Spyder?

 

[manuelf]

The anti-climax of a Competition Pack with M-Performance accessories included is palpable...

Which M-Performance Accessories?
Or do you mean GTS accessories? At least CF hood, lightweigth structure for instrument cluster, front splitter are obviously taken over from GTS ... bootlid spoiler is completely new... I expect serious track performance from the M4 CS.
Finetuning their products is currently something, where ///M really excells! It will wipe the floor with its several years fresher rivals ... just like the competition pack did

 

[Merc1]

Is there something going on internally at BMW? They're just not hitting on anything anymore. Dull re-designs, nothing really new or exciting. Just the same old cars being redesigned to look like the previous model. Where is the exciting concept or new segment product that isn't a SUV?

M

 

[SKY]

Is there something going on internally at BMW? They're just not hitting on anything anymore. Dull re-designs, nothing really new or exciting. Just the same old cars being redesigned to look like the previous model. Where is the exciting concept or new segment product that isn't a SUV?

M

Well, there is a 8er coming, for what is worth.

Plus the M5 and a rumored hardcore M4.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Well, there is a 8er coming, for what is worth.

Plus the M5 and a rumored hardcore M4.

There's always something "coming" though.

 

[Matski]

Which M-Performance Accessories?
Or do you mean GTS accessories? At least CF hood, lightweigth structure for instrument cluster, front splitter are obviously taken over from GTS ...

The hood and splitter, yes.. these at least show some intent, but simply taken from the GTS... Instrument Cluster carrier part number 51458066699 isn't going to impress anyone unless it brings a 50kg wight saving.

Bootlid spoiler is completely new...

Is it? Looks like an existing M-Performance item to me.. maybe part number 51192350722

I expect serious track performance from the M4 CS.

I expect a price premium over the Competition pack, and mixed reviews thereafter...

 

[SKY]

There's always something "coming" though.

Hah, at least with the former we have seen it testing.

 

[SCOTT27]

Is there something going on internally at BMW? They're just not hitting on anything anymore. Dull re-designs, nothing really new or exciting. Just the same old cars being redesigned to look like the previous model. Where is the exciting concept or new segment product that isn't a SUV?

M

The M4 CS and M2 CS improve on already great cars. And a new M5 Concept is due.

The i3S which if you know the i3 even before 94h then you know how crazy it's acceleration is.
Wait till you try the i3S.
The revised BMW i8 LCI with minimal changes, the addition of the super gorgeous i8 Roadster and the performance orientated i8S which takes its cue from the much praised Formula E Safety Car.

A new 8er family of Coupe,Cabrio and Gran Coupe. The next generation of BMW X3 is going to be popular especially in markets where the X3 runs close to ubiquitous 3er. Which receives a replacement model to increase its lead in 2018.
The new 5er model on sale for under a month has hot the market running, the new Touring will help this as will the addition of the Li 5er in Shanghai this coming April. BMW still believe in the Diesel engine and especially in its ability to deliver high performance with great efficiency and lower taxes. As well as the M550d the new X3 introduces the M40d which again will be utilised by the 3er upwards.

In regards to electrified vehicles. In the premium segment BMW are the leaders the available models have not just dominated their segment, but also their market. The iPerformance additions are proving popular that in most markets the iPerformance cars are the best selling model of that series. Together with the i3 and i8. BMW are on course to sell 100,000 units of Electrified vehicles. And that includes new models as the 530e and MINI Countryman E. The forthcoming X3 will also offer iPerformance.

 

[Matski]

The M4 CS and M2 CS improve on already great cars

By enough to be remembered in a generations time,... or by just enough to be remembered by people ticking an options box next time they order???