Poll 2017 BMW 5-series vs 2017 MB E-class design comparison

[klier]

Both look fantastic I must say. But I can't shake the feeling of 'been there, seen that' with the E class. Because it looks so much like the C and S.

But classic grille makes a positive difference though. With neat modern sweet looking hood shutline.

 

[hovabongZA]

There seems to be a reoccurring opinion from the recent reviews about the interior of the new 5er having better quality interior than the E class.

 

[WAND]

Interior in that W213 is hands down.
But exterior on the W213 can vary a lot.
This is "exclusive" exterior, doesn't know which package is on 5er, sport or ?
On the w213 you can choose totaly different appearance.
Here it's classic, conservative, with latticed grill, restrained optics.
With Avantagrde package it's totaly different character.
Sign in grill, sportier exterior.
And ofcourse AMG package.
On the other hand, appearance of the 5er can't vary that much, mostly because of the grill.
You have one grill, kidneys for all packages.
Also they have different approach also.
5er is more aggressive while W213 is more conservative.
If you look closer, they "always" have opposite approach.
W211 vs E60, W212 vs F10 and now W213 vs G30.
And that's god, they are not similar, on the contrary.

 

[klier]

^ agreed, but of course not for the interior of the E class. The 5er interior is far and away superior. In ergonomics, looks, quality and the whole 9 yards.

What bothers me most about the interior of the E class is the dashboard, and how it is the size of a freaking mountain. Massive. Overkill. Ugly. And I fully understand why BMW changed this after the F10 and F01, with the free standing display of the G11 and G30 not wrapped in a dashboard.

 

[Frankie G]

Why is the picture so small when you can get these?

My bad...though I did include the link for those who'd prefer to go straight to the web page instead

 

[braaf]

^ agreed, but of course not for the interior of the E class. The 5er interior is far and away superior. In ergonomics, looks, quality and the whole 9 yards.

What bothers me most about the interior of the E class is the dashboard, and how it is the size of a freaking mountain. Massive. Overkill. Ugly. And I fully understand why BMW changed this after the F10 and F01, with the free standing display of the G11 and G30 not wrapped in a dashboard.

Precisely. I always picture an american trucker with a peak cap driving a 18 wheeler whenever i see the E or S interior.

 

[JLBM]

^ agreed, but of course not for the interior of the E class. The 5er interior is far and away superior. In ergonomics, looks, quality and the whole 9 yards.

What bothers me most about the interior of the E class is the dashboard, and how it is the size of a freaking mountain. Massive. Overkill. Ugly. And I fully understand why BMW changed this after the F10 and F01, with the free standing display of the G11 and G30 not wrapped in a dashboard.

I would prefer it if BMW integrated the display into the dash..

 

[WAND]

Mercs screens in real are much better than on pics.
I like it, they are win-win IMO.
Much better than tablet like screen in C class and other similar screens attached to the dash.
Fixed on the top of the dash, they look like they flying.
i like it when it's fine fitted, and that's for me means integrated in the dash.

 

[klier]

I would prefer it if BMW integrated the display into the dash..

Porsche does a neat job with the new Panny, but still, ease of use and visibility/safety is simply better when the screen is placed higher.

Where Porsche has the screen now in the Panamera is where BMW had it during the E38, E39, E46 days. They are not going back to that. It would be a step backwards in main areas like visibility and safety.

A high screen means your eyes are closer to the road in front of you. BMW pioneered this with the E65 7er and it's common, standard practice on all these cars now.

 

[JPATT93]

The BMW is a handsome car, as is the E-class. However, this segment in general is not offering anything that excites me in terms of design.

IMO, the 5er while handsome, already looks dated: it does not look like it was design to be a model for 2017. The head lights and rear lights seem bigger, which is a step backwards when considering as @GTA8.5 points out, BMW's "vision" for the future.

Now the interior is a different story. I'd have to give it to the g30 5er for its simplicity and modern lounge approach (minus those ugly distracting vents behind the tablet screen).

 

[mercpassion]

Porsche does a neat job with the new Panny, but still, ease of use and visibility/safety is simply better when the screen is placed higher.

Where Porsche has the screen now in the Panamera is where BMW had it during the E38, E39, E46 days. They are not going back to that. It would be a step backwards in main areas like visibility and safety.

A high screen means your eyes are closer to the road in front of you. BMW pioneered this with the E65 7er and it's common, standard practice on all these cars now.

Of course they pionered in production cars..but the idea..well upon research you would discover it's an MB test lab on wheels.the Vario concept.

 

[JLBM]

Porsche does a neat job with the new Panny, but still, ease of use and visibility/safety is simply better when the screen is placed higher.

Where Porsche has the screen now in the Panamera is where BMW had it during the E38, E39, E46 days. They are not going back to that. It would be a step backwards in main areas like visibility and safety.

A high screen means your eyes are closer to the road in front of you. BMW pioneered this with the E65 7er and it's common, standard practice on all these cars now.

You can still have a higher screen and have it integrated. I don't like the plopped-on-the-top "accessory" direction. MB does it with some models as well. It doesn't work for me.

 

[mdartisian]

Rumor has it BMW's gonna integrate the screen in the dash again.

 

[Rainer271]

Rumor has it BMW's gonna integrate the screen in the dash again.

I don't know if you are meaning this as a joke or not. At least it's interesting that the VFL Concept has an integrated screen. But maybe it means nothing.

Btw there are obviously plans for a tablet to go for the driver as a replacement for the recent screen. This was posted at Motor-Talk from a normally well informed member.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

There seems to be a reoccurring opinion from the recent reviews about the interior of the new 5er having better quality interior than the E class.

Where have you read that?

This is the second time you've made such a statement. The first time you read the wording Of that review out of context, so I'm interested to see where you have read it again.

 

[mdartisian]

Where have you read that?

This is the second time you've made such a statement. The first time you read the wording Of that review out of context, so I'm interested to see where you have read it again.

I heard it here. At 1:00.

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[mdartisian]

I don't know if you are meaning this as a joke or not. At least it's interesting that the VFL Concept has an integrated screen. But maybe it means nothing.

Btw there are obviously plans for a tablet to go for the driver as a replacement for the recent screen. This was posted at Motor-Talk from a normally well informed member.

I've heard it around here, elsewhere.. someone (don't remember who) said the next X5 was coming with a new interior design and integrated dash. Another saw a concept 2er grancoupe (fwd unfortunately) and it had a VFL-like dash (if I'm remembering correctly). I'm too lazy right now to fact check.

 

[SCOTT27]

The flat screen remains but it will be wider similar to the VFL and i8 Future Interaction and stretch across the dash, but optional technology will incorporate wrap around screens around the driver.
They are working on windscreen projection with touch and gesture at this time.

 

[Rainer271]

The flat screen remains but it will be wider similar to the VFL and i8 Future Interaction and stretch across the dash, but optional technology will incorporate wrap around screens around the driver.
They are working on windscreen projection with touch and gesture at this time.

Sorry when I'm going OT.

Does it mean ( when I take the VFL Concept as an example ) the screen in the middle is not longer the iDrive screen but a further screen as a part of the instruments and the screen in front of the passenger is the new designed wider iDrive screen?

 

[hovabongZA]

Where have you read that?

This is the second time you've made such a statement. The first time you read the wording Of that review out of context, so I'm interested to see where you have read it again.

You must be confusing me with someone rake first time that I've made that statement anyway the video has been posted for you.