Vs W213 E-Class and it`s technological implementation vs. The Competition.

[klier]

But hell i don't have to do this everytime i change seat postions:

Every time?
Like, one day you are 20 cm longer than the other?
How many times do you even use them? I hardly ever change the position.

And why is that guy without bones in his arms?

But there is no way the BMW controls are simpler to use.

No, BMW finds it more important to have a good working, fast, easy to use interface for iDrive.

Priorities, priorities....

 

[LaArtist]

Every time?
Like, one day you are 20 cm longer than the other?
How many times do you even use them? I hardly ever change the position.

And why is that guy without bones in his arms?

Happens from time to time.. i like to adjust the incline for the back..

Ofcourse its not really an everyday thing, but the MB conrols are way simpler than BMW or anyone else. thats a FACT..

Other than that, you can find them ugly or whatever, lord knows i find nearly everything about a BMW displeasing to the eye.. its no issue..haha

 

[klier]

lord knows i find nearly everything about a BMW displeasing to the eye.. its no issue..haha

So it is actually you who is the 'middle aged woman whom is passionate about gardening'.

The plot thickens....

but the MB conrols are way simpler than BMW or anyone else. thats a FACT..

Yup. Otherwise tech dead grandpa wouldn't be able to adjust his seat. We get it.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

What's even more interesting is the fact that MB for the first time in 20 years has something remotely technical, and the MB boys suddenly think it's the best in the world.

News flash: the E is brand new. You want us to compare it to old competition and then say how advanced it is?

The brand new 7er gets compared with the W213. That says all. In my book, the 7er is E-Klasse competition and no S-Klasse competition. The S is 1 or 2 classes above it.

 

[LaArtist]

So it is actually you who is the 'middle aged woman whom is passionate about gardening'.

The plot thickens....



Yup. Otherwise tech dead grandpa wouldn't be able to adjust his seat. We get it.

I enjoy myself some gardening, i have recently acquired 2 lemon trees..

Finally you get it.. very good. Now complain or make up some other thing..

Ile try to bait you with this : How come BMWs with their carbon cores, are more or less as light/heavy as the competition, and sometimes heavier? I mean there has been alot of talk of this amazing carbon core tech, didn't result in much did it?
Scott this seems to be your kind of worm, wanna bite?

 

[LaArtist]

The brand new 7er gets compared with the W213. That says all. In my book, the 7er is E-Klasse competition and no S-Klasse competition. The S is 1 or 2 classes above it.

hahah Checkmate!

 

[LaArtist]

 

[klier]

The brand new 7er gets compared with the W213. That says all. In my book, the 7er is E-Klasse competition and no S-Klasse competition. The S is 1 or 2 classes above it.

That must be an awesome book, but it's time to move over to the adult section.

hahah Checkmate!

Yes, that was a strong one.
BTW, it's TWO classes above it, not just one.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

There was some debate about W213 not losing enough weight. According to the latest issue of Auto Motor und Sport, this isn't a problem at all, because the current 5 was allready heavier than the W212. To be on par with W213 in the weight department, the new 5er must loose considerable more weight.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

That must be an awesome book, but it's time to move over to the adult section.

I don't think the mods accept XXX-rated

 

[tomazino]

boner alert!!!

 

[klier]

WOW, perfection ^^^^

There was some debate about W213 not losing enough weight. According to the latest issue of Auto Motor und Sport, this isn't a problem at all, because the current 5 was allready heavier than the W212. To be on par with W213 in the weight department, the new 5er must loose considerable more weight.

You are so badly misinformed it's not even funny anymore.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

You are so badly misinformed it's not even funny anymore.

On the contrary Klier. I don't make just statements. That what I said can be checked.
Edit page 18-20 AMS

 

[LaArtist]

WOW, perfection ^^^^



You are so badly misinformed it's not even funny anymore.

It is actually true the W212 is lighter than the current 5er

 

[klier]

It is actually true the W212 is lighter than the current 5er

I can't be bothered with untrue statements. There might be a small difference (think 20 kg) in favor of the W212 on some models, and even then it's only because the W212 lacks basic tech. Hahahaha

 

[LaArtist]

^ ahh its untrue? can someone find the weight numbers for him? its been posted many times.

What is untrue is the agenda BMW fans push spearheaded by Scott that BMWs are so light.
They are NOT!

 

[tomazino]

E350 BlueTec (w212) - 1845kg
E350d (w213) - 1800kg (with 50L fuel tank)
BMW 530d - 1785kg

E220 (w213) - 1680kg (with 50L fuel tank)
BMW 520d - 1705kg

 

[LaArtist]

^ Spec grav of fuel is 0.737

20L which is the diff between the 50l tank and the 70l tank results in:
14.74kg round it up to 15kg.

THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE CRYING ABOUT 15 GOD DAMN KILOGRAMS.

more or less a couple of bags of groceries..haha

like i said some W212s were lighter than the F10, some W213s are ligher or heavier.

In the end i care very little about weight of big ass luxury cars, but since the bMW fans are so hyped about it, its nice to shed some light on the minimal differences.

Some of you are out here acting like BMW is the Pagani of the premium car segment..haha

 

[klier]

^ ahh its untrue? can someone find the weight numbers for him? its been posted many times.

Exactly why I can't be bothered anymore. They have been posted many times, even in this very thread.

^ Spec grav of fuel is 0.737

20L which is the diff between the 50l tank and the 70l tank results in:
14.74kg round it up to 15kg.

THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE CRYING ABOUT 15 GOD DAMN KILOGRAMS.

more or less a couple of bags of groceries..haha

like i said some W212s were lighter than the F10, some W213s are ligher or heavier.

In the end i care very little about weight of big ass luxury cars, but since the bMW fans are so hyped about it, its nice to shed some light on the minimal differences.

Some of you are out here acting like BMW is the Pagani of the premium car segment..haha

What am I reading? You sure you are Swedish and not from some parallel universe where things can be bend and twisted when suited?

 

[LaArtist]

^nope both are more or less as heavy.. and the F whatever the F they call it new 5er.will be +/- 50-100 kg vs the W213.

Just like the new 7er is barely lighter than the W222. its those 50-100kgs..
No one cares about your carbon core..haha

To put it into perspective, as much as you care about Safety tech, about 100% less than that is how much i care about the weight of 7er/S or E/5er.