VW Is Said to Cheat on Diesel Emissions; U.S. Orders Big Recall

[SCOTT27]

For a big corporation like BMW £10m is a smack on a wrist compared to the fees administrative costs they would have incurred if they went to court. They didn't even have to admit wrongdoing. In 2017 BMW AG generated €8.99b in net profit and guidance for 2018 looks good so the fine won't have a material impact on results.

Still some are not getting their case of 50 year old Scotch whiskey this year.

 

[PanterroR]

VW faces about $10.7 billion investor suit over dieselgate scandal

FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Volkswagen faces a trial next week as investors seek 9.2 billion euros ($10.7 billion) in compensation arguing that the carmaker should have informed shareholders about a diesel pollution scandal before regulators did in September 2015.

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[Centurion]

British Petroleum was eaten alive for the Deepwater Horizon leak. Their fines and compensation totalled to $42 billion. The diesel scandal could cost VW just as much.


STADLER IS THE SIXTH VOLKSWAGEN GROUP EXECUTIVE TO BE IMPRISONED

"Guess, who didn’t attend Audi’s release event on Monday? It was Rupert Stadler, the CEO of Audi. Hours before the party started, Volkswagen’s board met in Wolfsburg, Germany to discuss Stadler’s future within the company. He’s expected to be removed from his position next week.

After all, he’s been held in custody in a Bavarian prison for three months and can’t very well run a car company from there. Not only is he suspected of having made false statements to authorities, prosecutors think that he also tried to manipulate important witnesses."

Source: The Verge

 

[klier]

British Petroleum was eaten alive for the Deepwater Horizon leak. Their fines and compensation...

Let VAG crumble please. Let Audi try it on their own (LOL!), and let Porsche be free again.

Porsche can then scrap their VAG junk, which is everything but the 718 and 911.

 

[SCOTT27]

BMW are moving into Bayern Munich to take control from Audi of official supply of vehicles to players and management.

 

[Centurion]

BMW are moving into Bayern Munich to take control from Audi of official supply of vehicles to pl...

So BMW are simply bidding more money for the contract to sponsor the football club?

 

[hovabongZA]

BMW are moving into Bayern Munich to take control from Audi of official supply of vehicles to pl...

Does Bayern want to disassociate themselves from Audi,because of Diesel-gate?

 

[SCOTT27]

So BMW are simply bidding more money for the contract to sponsor the football club?

More like a moral issue? Stadtler is on the board at Bayern Munich.
But yes Money talks too.

 

[Mars1965]

BMW are moving into Bayern Munich to take control from Audi of official supply of vehicles to pl...

From now or 2025?

 

[Matski]

Let VAG crumble please. Let Audi try it on their own (LOL!), and let Porsche be free again.

Porsch...

It's interesting to imagine how a break up of VW may look... I can't help but imagine how Bentley could work if BMW added it alongside Rolls Royce....

... but, if you think Porsche will give up on all that sweet, sweet profit they get from making SUV's, you're hoping for a bit much!

 

[Centurion]

The aftermath of diesel gate is getting uglier for car buyers

It seems like VAG's 1.5TSI has been re-configured to be economical at the expense of drivability and fun.

2019 Q3 Review - Autocar

Firstly, the engine. The turbocharged 1.5-litre petrol with cylinder-on-demand (temporarily switching off cylinders at low load) works beautifully in the VW Golf – smooth, refined and effective. But in this Q3, it’s not the same story. In terms of power, the unit is perfectly sufficient for the car’s weight and in this sense, it’s likely to be the most sensible choice for an average Q3 driver.

It achieves 0-62mph in 9.2secs and moves along happily on urban roads, country lanes or the motorway. The sticking point is how that power is delivered. Even from low speeds, you can hear the gruff engine really having to work hard to achieve results. The sweet spot is between 2000 and 4000rpm but even then, you can notice turbo lag. Put your foot down above 4000rpm, and the engine revs in a deeply unhappy fashion.

This disappointing set-up is more noticeable when paired with the seven-speed dual-clutch Tiptronic gearbox, which regularly struggles to find its feet. It coasts along effortlessly, but any other time, you get the sense it’s always trying to change up – probably to help fuel consumption – and can’t respond appropriately when it unexpectedly goes down a gear or you’ve put the throttle down and it needs to, perhaps, jump two gears.

2019 Q3 Review - Top Gear

The 150bhp petrol deactivates two cylinders for saving fuel when you’re not trying too hard. This is a nice engine in a VW Golf or elsewhere, but here it struggles. Outright performance calls for patience, taking 9.2secs to get to 62mph from zero, but you can forgive that because it’s a small engine in a bulky car. More seriously annoying is that it’s sullen rather than playful.

It’s laggy below 3,000rpm and gritty-sounding above, so whatever gear you choose, you wish you were in another. The new seven-speed DCT doesn’t help, failing to change smoothly.

It’s got a petrol particulate filter and meets the latest exhaust standards, and it’s also been set up for WLTP fuel measurements. The engineers were overwhelmed by all these new requirements and had to let the actual driving quality slip down the priority list.

Porsche CEO:

“Porsche is not demonising diesel. It is, and will remain, an important propulsion technology. We as a sports car manufacturer, however, for whom diesel has always played a secondary role, have come to the conclusion that we would like our future to be diesel-free. Naturally we will continue to look after our existing diesel customers.”

More crushingly Porsche has officially discontinued diesel engines. It's unfortunate for Cayenne and Macan buyers. The petrol Cayenne S is no slosh but it's peak torque of 500Nm is considerably less than 850Nm for the Cayenne S Diesel that in real life returns 30-50% better fuel economy.

 

[martinbo]

Snap up your Cayenne Diesels while you can.

 

[Cashmere]

Snap up your Cayenne Diesels while you can.

Au contraire, I would recommend staying far away from diesels (esp if you live in Europe). They're going to being offered at very attractive pricing to clear inventory and they'll also be the first to get banned from inner cities.

 

[martinbo]

Au contraire, I would recommend staying far away from diesels (esp if you live in Europe). They're going to being offered at very attractive pricing to clear inventory and they'll also be the first to get banned from inner cities.

This is Africa bru, or have you forgotten?

 

[Cashmere]

Isn't it ironic?

VW, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche stop plug-in hybrid sales on new WLTP emissions rules

Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche are among the automakers that have halted sales of some of their plug-in hybrid cars in Europe in the wake of new emissions regulations.
The regulations, known as the Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Procedure (WLTP), went into effect in the European Union this month. Under WLTP, plug-in hybrids are tested differently than under the previous regulations, known as the New European Driving Cycle or NEDC.

As a result, the effect of the fully charged battery has been reduced. That, in turn, has pushed the crucial CO2 emissions figure above 50 grams per kilometer. The cars lose tax benefits offered in many countries to ultralow-emissions vehicles.

In Germany, many plug-in hybrid models have fallen out of the category where they qualified for the 3,000-euro (about $3,500) subsidy, said Matthias Schmidt, an analyst for Sweden's AID automotive research company. In most cases, automakers will need to fit a bigger battery into the vehicle to keep the tax benefits, Schmidt said.
Automakers have to decide whether the extra cost to fit a bigger battery is worth the incentives given.

Link: VW, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche stop plug-in hybrid sales on new WLTP emissions rules

 

[Matski]

Isn't it ironic?

VW, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche stop plug-in hybrid sales on new WLTP emissions rules

Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche are among the automakers that have halted sales of some of their plug-in hybrid cars in Europe in the wake of new emissions regulations.
The regulations, known as the Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles T...

Misleading title is misleading.

 

[SCOTT27]

Interesting here that VAGs treatment of Rupert stadtler of throwing him under the wheels of the (Micro)Bus might be causing mutiny in VAGs ranks that might not just cause an Earthquake within VAG but also in German politics.

 

[PanterroR]

Apparently there's a police raid in Opel as well because of cheating on diesel engines on 100,000 cars...

Source: Abgas-Skandal: Razzia bei Opel - ALLES AUTO

www.allesauto.at/abgas-skandal-razzia-bei-opel

Sorry for the not working links, seems it still hasdn't been fixed here...

 

[Centurion]

Unrelated to the diesel scandal but relevant from an emission point of view.

This is why I've never taken a liking to plug-in hybrids. They are mainly bought by businesses and self-employed for tax purposes. To most car consumers they only make sense for those with a driveway/garage and a commute lower than 10 miles below 40mph.


Fleet-owned plug-in hybrids may never have been charged
Company car drivers running plug-in hybrids are seeing average fuel consumption of just 40mpg – around a third of official figures – leading experts to consider many PHEVs are not being plugged in at all, and are running on their internal combustion engines alone.

Paul Hollick, The Miles Consultancy's managing director, told the BBC, which commissioned the research: “There are some examples where employees aren't even charging these vehicles up. The charge cables are still in the boot, in a cellophane wrapper, while the company and the employee are going in and out of petrol stations, paying for all of this additional fuel.”



Source: Autocar

 

[Mars1965]

Audi recalling 151,000 V6 diesel cars because of "cheating" device.

Audi's Issuing The First Of 8 Diesel Recalls In Germany This Week | Carscoops

The German federal government has given Audi the go-ahead to start removing the emissions cheat device from its diesel-powered vehicles

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VW-Abgasskandal: Alle aktuellen Infos

Im September 2015 gibt Volkswagen die Manipulation der Abgaswerte bei Dieselmotoren mittels so genannter Defeat Devices zu, zuvor wurden Vorwürfe der US-Umweltbehörde EPA veröffentlicht. Seitdem weitet sich der Skandal aus. Die aktuellsten Entwicklungen zu „Diesel-Gate“.

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