Hot! Diesel ban approved for German cities to cut pollution

[chonkoa]

The car producers are reducing the CO2 footprint of their cars at a slower pace than increasing the produced cars. For example: for the last 15 years BMW reduced the CO2 emissions with about (just my assumption, I don't know the exact numbers) 40% but increased the production of cars with 220%. So the decrease of the CO2 emission of a single car can not cope with the increased number of consumers that buy cars and the things are getting worse and worse.

Law of exponential decay/growth.

 

[Cashmere]

Been saying this for a while that the internal combustion engine is on its deathbed. By 2021 (possibly sooner), sales of gasoline cars will fall of a cliff.

Good time to bump this post. Have a look at whats happening in the world's largest car market:

China Passenger vehicle sales YOY - Down 17.7%
EV Sales YOY - Up 138%

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Good time to bump this post. Have a look at whats happening in the world's largest car market:

China Passenger vehicle sales YOY - Down 17.7%
EV Sales YOY - Up 138%

Yes but the fall of the ICE cars has nothing to do with the increase of the EVs sales, because in absolute numbers the fall of ICEs in December is app 450 000 and the increase of the EVs is 70 000.

 

[Deleted member 25]

Yeah i concur, China is currently going through an economic slowdown.

 

[Matski]

Yes but the fall of the ICE cars has nothing to do with the increase of the EVs sales, because in absolute numbers the fall of ICEs in December is app 450 000 and the increase of the EVs is 70 000.

Similar story here, where EV's and Hybrids are posting 25%ish year on year gains, it's only translating to a couple of thousand cars. The fall in Diesel sales year is 5 times that, with Petrol showing the gains. For now at least, people are dumping diesel, but 75-80% of them are sticking with ICE. Even the majority of those moving to EV's and Hybrids are choosing the latter to give them the ICE option as well as the electric.

 

[EnI]

Mind EVs & PHEVs are heavily subsidised in many markets around the globe + additional administrative obstacles have arisen for ICEVs, especially diesel cars in many markets (at least locally / regionally).

Not to mention the migration to WLTP standardization in EU market: many carmakers will introduce EU6d by WLTP new / refreshed engines or car models in the Spring 2019 as 2020 MYs.

But yes ... gradual migration from pure ICEVs to PHEVs and pure BEVs is inevitable. But it's market dependant. Somewhere migration will be quicker, somewhere slower. It depends on subsidies, charging instruction, electricity grid readiness, electricity prices, competition pressure.

China ... especially in the biggest cities the air has been so polluted an urgent action is needed. Therefore very aggressive administrative measures to quickly decrease ICEVs sales + increase of BEVs sales have been introduced.