4 Series (F32/F33/F36) [Spyshots] 2014 BMW 4 Series Spy Pics & Info

[Betty Swollocks]

@Merc1
but 6 series is 20k euro more than 5 series, and 4 will be 1 or 2k more.

What's that got to do with anything? By giving the coupe different nomenclature to the sedan for the first time in its history, it's not too much to expect that it would be differentiated more.

Selling prices are irrelevant.

 

[Human]

As much as I love BMWs, and this design, the car really is nothing more than a 3-Series with a different badge. It really doesn't deserve the "4-Series" designation as the 6er does vs the 5er.

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[Betty Swollocks]

Not sure what point you're making Naas. By showing those photos you're just proving that Audi and MB make cars that actually look different to their mechanically similar mainstream models, thus justifying a different nomenclature.

A5 looks more different to the A4 than the 3er and 4er do.

The CLS looks more different to the E-Class.

The A7 looks nothing like the A6.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

And what may I ask is this my dear gentleman?

We you may have a point with the Audi, but the CLS looks nothing like the E-class (exterior wise). Personally, I don't care what they call it because I like it. I just think it would have been fine as a 3 coupe, but whatever BMW names it I will be all good.

 

[Human]

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Not sure what point you're making Naas. By showing those photos you're just proving that Audi and MB make cars that actually look different to their mechanically similar mainstream models, thus justifying a different nomenclature.

A5 looks more different to the A4 than the 3er and 4er do.

The CLS looks more different to the E-Class.

The A7 looks nothing like the A6.

A5 vs A4 Disagree fully. Resemblance is 'same as' or much alike.

CLS/E-class. So does the 6 Ser and 5 Ser look two worlds apart

A7 vs A6. So does the 5 ser and 5GT Ditto

Sorry Betty, you don't make sense my friend

Edit: And just for the record i did not bring the 5er vs 6er into this.

 

[Human]

We you may have a point with the Audi, but the CLS looks nothing like the E-class (exterior wise). Personally, I don't care what they call it because I like it. I just think it would have been fine as a 3 coupe, but whatever BMW names it I will be all good.

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See my reply to Betty, HoH.

Edit: You are correct it will be good, so much so I can't wait to spend my hard earned salary on it.

 

[Merc1]

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A5 vs A4 Disagree fully. Resemblance is 'same as' or much alike.

CLS/E-class. So does the 6 Ser and 5 Ser look two worlds apart

A7 vs A6. So does the 5 ser and 5GT Ditto

Sorry Betty, you don't make sense my friend

Edit: And just for the record i did not bring the 5er vs 6er into this.

What in the world are you talking about? Do you know?

M

 

[Human]

What in the world are you talking about? Do you know?
M

Follow the thread trail, read the replies and this one you are referring to was to Betty, who made the comparisons. And if it still does not make sense, forget it and just ignore it.

I did not start the onslaught and explaining the (what is obvious for me) will play into another BMW Thread derailed becuase of Audi/M-B vs BMW BS. Let's then wait for the 4er launch and do a full comparison between BMW coupe's, Audi coupe's and M-B coupe's or even a poll if you like. I like the 4er and it will be my next car = 1 already sold

Strange HoH got my post..wonder why. Intelligent guy o'l Ben.

 

[Shakal]

@Human

Audi A5 looks nice, but I didin't consider it - probably one of reasons is that is is too similar to A4 and is "common" car because of that. BMW E92 looks different to E90 from every angle and gives much more premium feeling. I can see E90 on every corner, but E92 is still quite rare. Despite E92 is old, it still looks fresh and special. BMW F30 is already quite common and because F32 looks like F30 without rear doors, it wont be as special as E92 was in 2006 IMO. My concern is it will soon became dull because of that.

I don't like Audi because their cars are too similar and because of that they looks dull IMO. Unfortunately, BMW is going on same route. I was 99% sure that F32 will replace my E92, but so far Im dissapointed.

 

[Merc1]

Follow the thread trail, read the replies and this one you are referring to was to Betty, who made the comparisons. And if it still does not make sense, forget it and just ignore it.

I did not start the onslaught and explaining the (what is obvious for me) will play into another BMW Thread derailed becuase of Audi/M-B vs BMW BS. Let's then wait for the 4er launch and do a full comparison between BMW coupe's, Audi coupe's and M-B coupe's or even a poll if you like. I like the 4er and it will be my next car = i already sold

Probably best because your responses are confused. The CLS and the E and the A5 and A4 have nothing to do with what I initially said.

A poll on what between the coupes for what?

I said that the 4er wasn't deserving of a new/different designation, then you post pics of the CLS, C-Class and other cars that aren't even related in the same way the 3/4 is.

M

 

[Human]

Probably best because your responses are confused. The CLS and the E and the A5 and A4 have nothing to do with what I initially said.

A poll on what between the coupes for what?

M

Come on now, HoH got my initial post so did Shakal. Sorry I involved you, I do appologize for quoting you.

 

[SCOTT27]

The 4er has more presence than the 3er with its close to the road proportions it is also a far more dynamic car to drive than the 3er .

All will be revealed...

 

[bimmerjph]

The 4er has more presence than the 3er with its close to the road proportions it is also a far more dynamic car to drive than the 3er .

All will be revealed...

So what your saying is BMW purposely held back on the F30?

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I did not start the onslaught and explaining the (what is obvious for me) will play into another BMW Thread derailed becuase of Audi/M-B vs BMW BS.

Then why did you post pictures of two Audis and an MB in the 4 Series thread?

Merc1 and myself were saying that it's disappointing that when BMW choose to give the coupe a different series number to the 3 Series for the first time in its history, they don't take the opportunity to differentiate the looks a bit more.

Then you made a sarcastic comment saying "Audi and M-B don't do such dispicible things".

I'm sorry, but you're banged to rights Naas.

 

[LaArtist]

I mean really guys. Why fight all the time?, this so off topic.

I hate it when people fight and go off topic:

This thread is about the 4er. Not mercedes!

 

[Betty Swollocks]

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A5 vs A4 Disagree fully. Resemblance is 'same as' or much alike.

CLS/E-class. So does the 6 Ser and 5 Ser look two worlds apart

A7 vs A6. So does the 5 ser and 5GT Ditto

Sorry Betty, you don't make sense my friend

Edit: And just for the record i did not bring the 5er vs 6er into this.

I'm sorry Naas, but you're not making any sense at all!

I completely agree the 6er and 5er look worlds apart. That's my point!

The upcoming 2er is clearly quite a bit different from the 1er too.

You're just highlighting my argument. Speaking as a BMW fan myself, more than any other manufacturer, I ask myself this......

When other lines in BMW's line up are clearly different, why not the 3er and 4er?

 

[Betty Swollocks]

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A5 vs A4 Disagree fully. Resemblance is 'same as' or much alike.

Read what I said. I said "looks more different".

I never said it wasn't similar.

Jeez!!

 

[Giannis]

Guys, calm down and stop fighting please!

 

[SCOTT27]

I mean really guys. Why fight all the time?, this so off topic.

I hate it when people fight and go off topic:

This thread is about the 4er. Not mercedes!

Damn, why did you post that picture of Kanye Kardashian for?

 

[Human]

@Betty Swollocks

I will try clear it all up.

1. I should not have quoted nor involved Merc1.
2. HoH and Shakal responded in such a way they got how I *interpreted (*key word here) it all.

Interpretation and opinionated thoughts that leads to a comment/post in Social Networking is or can be either understood they way it was brought on or then the opposite, at being confusing or lost in translation.

Getting ones point through to others, telling it how you feel/read the post is/can be difficult if that person(s) on the receiving side really does not grasp whats going on your your head or how you would like to think he/she is interpreting your thought/opinion etc.

You as Betty is IMHO a very accurate, to the T, type of person. You need the precise logic in a post. Hence what IMO your profession as a Air Traffic Controller certainly demands of you. Thing is your profession has overcome the burdens of making sense out of chaos and overcoming the International Language barrier etc. You have strict to the book communicating methods of Calling Codes etc. etc. I honestly wish we could have the same order and precision on a public forum, yet the is impossible as we are opinionated, non-restricted single individuals with "minds of our own" - (some including myself) may have to have that mind examined some times

Back to the topic:

*BMW's new numbering of their automotive ranges makes sense to me in a mathematical order of the plain and simple: 1 ser; 2 ser; 3 ser; 4 ser; 5 ser; 6 ser; 7 ser (1-2-3-4-5-6-7)

*I never expected nor was any expectations created that the BMW 4-series is going to be a sudden absolute and totally different car/product in looks, drive train, setup, practicality etc. to the previous generation of BMW 3-Series coupes and cabriolets.

*The 4 Series make sense (again to me) as a number that tells me in a normal understandable and perfect legit way that this the BMW 4-Series is Nothing more and also Nothing less than the F30 BMW 3-Series sedans extension into broadening the Famous and absolutely Brilliant (IMO) Iconic - BMW 3 Series - Coupe and Cabriolet - as was always the case with previous generation 3er coupes and cabrio's.

I was used to it as being just so and frankly BMW did not and can not by changing a Number from 3 to 4 never, ever convince anyone that it's suddenly out of the blue a NEW segment - BS! (If they- BMW- thought it was)