F80 [Spy Shots] Ferrari F80 Hybrid Hypercar - 2022 / 2023


The Ferrari F80 (Type F250) is a limited production mid-engine, hybrid sports car. Designed and named to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the company, it serves as a successor to the LaFerrari. Production: 2025-2027.
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Is this a render or the real deal?
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Ferrari F250

Echi "Le Mans" e niente V12 per la nuova hypercar

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Pubblicato il 25/07/2023
Ferrari F250 - Echi Le Mans e niente V12 per la nuova hypercar




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Ferrari F250: images, previews, powertrain, release

The desire to amaze - and to dare - is not lacking in Maranello: models such as the FF (a four-seater and 4x4 Red) and then the Purosangue (a raised and four-door Ferrari) have demonstrated this in the recent past. In the next round, the risk could be to give up the V12 on the home road hypercar: that is, on the model that will collect the legacy of the LaFerrari, whose project is coded under the initials F250, but the definitive name will be another.

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Inspired by the LMH. According to forecasts, the handover should take place in 2024: the same year in which Ferrari should present the replacement of the 812 Superfast, yes, still a twelve-cylinder. The spy photos of the new Cavallino hypercar circulated in recent months are also consistent with these timings, showing a car that is still far from the final configuration, but still very recognizable. Among other things, the most recent paparazzi shots of the car add further details (see the gigantic fixed rear wing) to our graphic reconstructions of the F250, which we propose here: renderings that do not claim to return a precise image of what the car will be like (anticipating a Red with few clues about its design always implies a certain degree of interpretative freedom), rather than framing its main characteristics. In this sense, the influences of the Ferrari 499P may not be limited to purely technical aspects, to encroach on the field of design. Among the various characteristic aspects, we have also hypothesized doors with an elytra opening, as on the LaFerrari, to give access to a low and collected passenger compartment, which should be integrated into a carbon monocoque.

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Electrified and six-cylinder. On the technical side, the common thread between the Red from Le Mans and the F250 should pass, among other things, through the suspension department, bringing a push-rod type overlapping wishbone solution to the new hypercar. But, above all, the powertrain could be of interest, with the already announced abandonment of the 12-cylinder in favor of a plug-in hybrid configuration, as on the sport prototype, built around a six-cylinder engine. Compact, lightweight and featuring a low center of gravity, the twin-turbo V6 itself can deliver over 700 horsepower. But it won't just act: the battery-powered and all-wheel drive mechanics of the F250 will almost certainly benefit from an electrified front axle, for which there are two hypotheses. The first, according to which the latter could be powered by an advanced version of the Rac-e system seen on the SF90 Stradale and made up of two electric motors capable of independently controlling the torque sent to the front wheels; otherwise, an Ers unit similar to that of the 499P could find a place at the front, perhaps not with the same power (272 HP), equipped with a differential and capable of recovering energy during deceleration and braking. Furthermore, the presence of an electric motor connected to the internal combustion engine is not excluded, as on another plug-in, the 296 GTB: following this example, the unit would be placed between the internal combustion engine and the gearbox. Thus, the result would be a powertrain with monstrous power, although the absolute numbers of power and torque are, within the entire project, a secondary objective compared to lightness, driveability and aerodynamic efficiency.
 
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Jeff Perez

yeah it's not gonna look like that, we don't know how much of the body panels are fake (panel on panel)

before the LaFerrari was released there was at least one render that was confirmed to have gotten close to the final product (through client preview) and that render i believe was made within 3-6 months before the car was released
 
This pretty much confirms it's gonna have a V6. Sounds exactly like the 296.

And based on how quickly it accelerates out of corners without any squirming or traction issues, there is a high possibility it's gonna be AWD as well, with e-motors on the front axle.
 

Ferrari 499P Will Inspire 2 Road-Ready Hypercars And A New Customer Racecar

Trademarks for the Ferrari 499 GTB, 499 Speciale, and 499 Modificata have given it away.

Thanks to several trademarks uncovered at the Italian trademark office, CarBuzz can exclusively reveal that Ferrari's Le Mans-winning 499P racing prototype will be entering production as a roadgoing hypercar. Not only that, but there will be several variants to choose from.

Ferrari will introduce a GTB model first, which will be joined by a 499 GTS (Gran Turismo Spider), or drop-top. The 499 Speciale trademarked nomenclature tells us that the roadgoing hypercar will also be a getting higher-performance iteration, just in case a street-legal version of a Le Mans-winning prototype wasn't enough. This will also be available as a Speciale Spider.

Not impressed? Ferrari will unleash an extreme track-only version for gentlemen racers, too, in the same vein as the XX program.

Trademarks for the Ferrari 499 GTB, 499 Speciale, and 499 Modificata have given it away.

Thanks to several trademarks uncovered at the Italian trademark office, CarBuzz can exclusively reveal that Ferrari's Le Mans-winning 499P racing prototype will be entering production as a roadgoing hypercar.

Not only that, but there will be several variants to choose from.

Ferrari will introduce a GTB model first, which will be joined by a 499 GTS (Gran Turismo Spider), or drop-top. The 499 Speciale trademarked nomenclature tells us that the roadgoing hypercar will also be a getting higher-performance iteration, just in case a street-legal version of a Le Mans-winning prototype wasn't enough. This will also be available as a Speciale Spider.

Not impressed? Ferrari will unleash an extreme track-only version for gentlemen racers, too, in the same vein as the XX program.

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We know this because we also found a trademark for the name 499P Modificata. The P at the end of the Le Mans contender's name indicates 'prototype,' in reference to the World Endurance Championship class that Le Mans Hypercars replaces. Modificata calls to mind the Ferrari 488 GT Modificata, which Maranello describes as "a limited-edition car that incorporates the skills and technologies developed for the 488 GT3 and 488 GTE."

Similar to cars in the XX program (excluding the new SF90 XX twins), this circuit-only special was restricted to use at private track days and Ferrari Club Competizioni GT events.

All of this tells us that the 499P Modificata will be closely related to the WEC single-seater but could be even more extreme, as it won't have to adhere to any technical regulations.

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We suspect that the 499 versions that do not have the 'P' suffix will be altered somewhat to make them suitable for road use. By suitable, we mean that we expect the roadgoing 499s to be capacious enough to bring a passenger along for the ride. We're not aerodynamicists, but the narrow cockpit of the WEC racer looks like it could be widened without too much compromise.

Unfortunately, all of this is just speculation for the time being, and it's unlikely that Ferrari will have anything official to announce for some time to come. If we had to guess, we'd say this will arrive as an Icona Series model, following the Daytona SP3.

We've likely got a long wait ahead of us, but thankfully, there are other cars to look forward to, and we've got the scoop on what those will be called too. Stay tuned."

Well I mean, wow! We will see!
 
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Which means this prototype is actually SP4? (Like I said earlier in the year.)
It's interesting that it's almost a full model line-up, that 499P GTB, GTS and Speciale. Could it be SF90 replacement/facelift?
 
Which means this prototype is actually SP4? (Like I said earlier in the year.)
It's interesting that it's almost a full model line-up, that 499P GTB, GTS and Speciale. Could it be SF90 replacement/facelift?

I need to sit down (tomorrow) with a coffee with this one. It was brief. I'm more of a Lamborghini (even forum) guy BUT I know some of the SF90.

I'll let you know.
 
Ferrari 499P Will Inspire 2 Road-Ready Hypercars And A New Customer Racecar
What is this article?!
How does Carbuzz square up the fact that there are prototypes of Ferrari's next hypercar that look nothing like 499P? Or are these new cars supposed to be different project entirely from those masked cars? Surely not.
First of all, just because they found trademarks filed by Ferrari doesn't mean those are gonna be used.
But if this car really ends up with a model name of 499 GTB/GTS then it still will be nothing like the race car, apart from the engine (which makes it a 296 GTB/GT3 relative just as much).

There is no way in hell that Ferrari turns 499P into a road car. That would require way larger monocoque along with a subframe / cf engine craddle supporting the engine. Ferrari is too clever to solid mount the engines to the tub like Aston and Mercedes did on their road cars, a feature that only serves to make occupants suffer).
I also doubt they would use the same motorsport grade motors and batteries as opposed to the stuff (or evolution of) they've been using on their roadcars and which is much more suited to the road use. Then there would be a completely different aero as well.
I get them trying to play up the, very real, connection to the Le Mans winning LMH programme. It's very cool that all these cars share an engine. But using the same nomenclature on the road cars seems a step too far.

As for the "higher-performance iteration in 499 Speciale"... Again, very confusing. Why would that be a thing? There wasn't any LaFerrari Speciale. Same thing with Enzo or F50 (F40 retrofitted with LM parts doesn't count). When you buy a Ferrari halo car you're getting the top dog. There is nothing above.
And that's how it should be.

The 499P Modificata is the most open case there. They could either do a new XFF-K, or they could copy a page from the other LMH players and offer customers a track-only special in line of Isotta Fraschini Tipo 6 LMH Pista, SCG007 S or Vanwall Vandervell 1000.
 
What is this article?!
How does Carbuzz square up the fact that there are prototypes of Ferrari's next hypercar that look nothing like 499P? Or are these new cars supposed to be different project entirely from those masked cars? Surely not.
First of all, just because they found trademarks filed by Ferrari doesn't mean those are gonna be used.
But if this car really ends up with a model name of 499 GTB/GTS then it still will be nothing like the race car apart from the engine (which makes it a 296 GTB/GT3 relative just as much).

There is no way in hell that Ferrari turns 499P into a road car. That would require way larger monocoque along with a subframe / cf engine craddle supporting the engine. Ferrari is too clever to solid mount the engines to the tub like Aston and Mercedes did on their road cars, a feature that only serves to make occupants suffer).
I also doubt they would use the same motorsport grade motors and batteries as opposed to the stuff (or evolution of) they've been using on their roadcars and which is much more suited to the road use. Then there would be a completely different aero as well.
I get them trying to play up the, very real, connection to the Le Mans winning LMH programme. It's very cool that all these cars share an engine. But using the same nomenclature on the road cars seems a step too far.

"As for the higher-performance iteration in 499 Speciale"... Again, very confusing. Why would that be a thing? There wasn't any LaFerrari Speciale. Same thing with Enzo or F50 (F40 retrofitted with LM parts doesn't count). When you buy a Ferrari halo car you're getting the top dog. There is nothing above.
And that's how it should be.

The 499P Modificata is the most open case there. They could either do a new XFF-K, or they could copy a page from the other LMH players and offer customers a track-only special in line of Isotta Fraschini Tipo 6 LMH Pista, SCG007 S or Vanwall Vandervell 1000.

Did I not make it clear I hadn't read it or not? I mean i was explicit on the fact that it was brief look? Smh.
 
Did I not make it clear I hadn't read it or not? I mean i was explicit on the fact that it was brief look? Smh.
Battista, sorry if my tone came off too confrontational. My post wasn't meant to be a reaction to your post, but the article itself.
I'm new on the forum. What is the etiquette when replying to a link in a post like that? Should I edit out the reply section of my post to only contain the link without the added commentary?
 
Battista, sorry if my tone came off too confrontational. My post wasn't meant to be a reaction to your post, but the article itself.
I'm new on the forum. What is the etiquette when replying to a link in a post like that? Should I edit out the reply section of my post to only contain the link without the added commentary?

Don't worry about it. I replied to a reply. To be honest my initial reaction was "no?" to the article.

I was going to read it, but something far more urgent is necessary elsewhere.

Carry on you're doing fine. But your pfp is weird LOL!

JK.
 
Don't worry about it. I replied to a reply. To be honest my initial reaction was "no?" to the article.

I was going to read it, but something far more urgent is necessary elsewhere.

Carry on you're doing fine. But your pfp is weird LOL!

JK.
Detecting sarcasm can be tricky online. The article was weird, but I still appreciate you sharing it :highfive:
 
Detecting sarcasm can be tricky online. The article was weird, but I still appreciate you sharing it :highfive:

Don't worry about it. The article is DEFINITELY weird. I'm leaving it for now. Someone said just wait until something like Mondial Finale or something.
 
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