F80 [Spy Shots] Ferrari F80 Hybrid Hypercar - 2022 / 2023

[slicknick]

This looks......awful

Let’s wait until the finished product, I’d say

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Let’s wait until the finished product, I’d say

I said this particular prototype and not the final product

 

[slicknick]

I said this particular prototype and not the final product

Well, who cares how the camo’ed stuff looks? It is purely there to be tested, no one will decide whether to order it or not based on how this particular prototype looks

 

[klier]

I like it a lot, looks like a mix of F40 and F50 so far

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

I like it a lot, looks like a mix of F40 and F50 so far

Well, who cares how the camo’ed stuff looks? It is purely there to be tested, no one will decide whether to order it or not based on how this particular prototype looks

 

[Tourbillon]

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[tristatez28lt1]

2025 Ferrari Hypercar: Everything We Know
Ferrari’s new 1,000-plus horsepower, $2-million hybrid hypercar is coming next year.

By: Jeff Perez


Ferrari's halo car lineage can be traced all the way back to the original 288 GTO. But it was the F40 – the last car personally commissioned by Enzo himself – that truly lived up to the phrase. It was the fastest, most powerful, and most expensive vehicle on the market at the time. The Ferrari F50 and Enzo in the decades that followed upped the ante by introducing two powerful naturally aspirated V12 engines, and the LaFerrari some years later brought the world Ferrari's first hybrid powertrain.
So what does the future look like for Ferrari? Based on the videos coming out of Maranello, the next great halo car isn't far off.
The LaFerrari will finally get the successor it deserves as part of the company's push to introduce 15 new models by 2026, with the Pursangue SUV being the first among them. Granted, there's still plenty we don't know about Ferrari's next multi-million-dollar, thousand-plus-horsepower hypercar, but the info we do have suggests it could be extremely promising.
What Will It Look Like?

The videos and photos we've seen thus far have been revealing. Prototypes are still covered in black and white camouflage, but there are obvious details hiding underneath that vinyl – enough for our rendering artist to gauge what the final version might look like (pictured here).
The front end appears to be well-fleshed out. It features three sizable grille intakes at the base of the bumper, headlights that look like a riff on the current SF90, and an F1-inspired S-Duct that peaks out from the top of the bodywork. Other mid-engined Ferrari models use the same S-Duct to help improve airflow over the front of the vehicle.
The biggest talking point, though – literally and figuratively – is that rear spoiler. It shoots up above the trunk lid and extends out almost further than the width of the vehicle itself. Just below that live dual center-mounted exhaust tips and subtle but stylish taillights fixtures at each corner of the bumper.

What Will It Be Called?
Right now Ferrari’s upcoming hypercar is codenamed the F250, but that name won’t make it to production, especially if Ford has anything to say about it. The F40 and F50 followed a similar naming structure but the Enzo and LaFerrari bucked the trend, going all in on nostalgia. Nostalgia could still play a role here in naming Ferrari’s new hypercar, but if the Purosangue is any indication (Italian for "thoroughbred"), it could also continue the equine theme.
What’s Under The Hood?
…potentially not a V12. This could be the first Ferrari halo car since the F40 to have fewer than 12 cylinders. Early reports indicated that this hypercar would have a hybrid powertrain and spy photos backed up that theory by showing test mules with electrical safety warning stickers and emissions compliance equipment.
A hybrid V8 is possible, but the most likely option is V6 borrowed from the 296 GTB. In the 296 GT3 race car, that V6 engine delivers as much as 680 horsepower and works with an electric motor delivering another 272 hp. But that setup is limited for racing; a bit of extra boost would easily push the total output to over 1,000 hp on this proposed hypercar. Considering the current SF90 produces 986 hp, Ferrari's next car would have to improve on that figure pretty significantly.
As far as electrification goes, it's possible that this hypercar is a plug-in hybrid like the SF90 and offers some form of electric driving. The SF90, for reference, only has about 15 miles of EV range in the US.

How Much Will It Cost?
Ferrari asking over $2 million for this car would be a safe bet. The outgoing LaFerrari made our list of the "50 Most Expensive Cars In The World" with its $1.4-million asking price when new, so this new Ferrari hypercar should exceed that figure. Current alternatives, like the Mercedes-AMG Project One, Aston Martin Valkyrie, and others, cost well over $2 and $3 million respectively.
When Will We See It?
Production of Ferrari’s new hypercar is scheduled to kick off in October of 2024, which means it should debut a few months prior to that. Ferrari plans to produce 220 units in 2025 and another 300 examples in 2026, with only 79 examples of the vehicle available in 2027. Both a convertible and a track-ready "XX" version of the Ferrari hypercar are also planned for 2027, with the former limited to just a few hundred examples and the track version limited to just 30 examples globally.

 

[Tourbillon]

2025 Ferrari Hypercar: Everything We Know
Ferrari’s new 1,000-plus horsepower, $2-million hybrid hypercar is coming next year.

By: Jeff Perez


Ferrari's halo car lineage can be traced all the way back to the original 288 GTO. But it was the F40 – the last car personally commissioned by Enzo himself – that truly lived up to the phrase. It was the fastest, most powerful, and most expensive vehicle on the market at the time. The Ferrari F50 and Enzo in the decades that followed upped the ante by introducing two powerful naturally aspirated V12 engines, and the LaFerrari some years later brought the world Ferrari's first hybrid powertrain.
So what does the future look like for Ferrari? Based on the videos coming out of Maranello, the next great halo car isn't far off.
The LaFerrari will finally get the successor it deserves as part of the company's push to introduce 15 new models by 2026, with the Pursangue SUV being the first among them. Granted, there's still plenty we don't know about Ferrari's next multi-million-dollar, thousand-plus-horsepower hypercar, but the info we do have suggests it could be extremely promising.
What Will It Look Like?

The videos and photos we've seen thus far have been revealing. Prototypes are still covered in black and white camouflage, but there are obvious details hiding underneath that vinyl – enough for our rendering artist to gauge what the final version might look like (pictured here).
The front end appears to be well-fleshed out. It features three sizable grille intakes at the base of the bumper, headlights that look like a riff on the current SF90, and an F1-inspired S-Duct that peaks out from the top of the bodywork. Other mid-engined Ferrari models use the same S-Duct to help improve airflow over the front of the vehicle.
The biggest talking point, though – literally and figuratively – is that rear spoiler. It shoots up above the trunk lid and extends out almost further than the width of the vehicle itself. Just below that live dual center-mounted exhaust tips and subtle but stylish taillights fixtures at each corner of the bumper.

What Will It Be Called?
Right now Ferrari’s upcoming hypercar is codenamed the F250, but that name won’t make it to production, especially if Ford has anything to say about it. The F40 and F50 followed a similar naming structure but the Enzo and LaFerrari bucked the trend, going all in on nostalgia. Nostalgia could still play a role here in naming Ferrari’s new hypercar, but if the Purosangue is any indication (Italian for "thoroughbred"), it could also continue the equine theme.
What’s Under The Hood?
…potentially not a V12. This could be the first Ferrari halo car since the F40 to have fewer than 12 cylinders. Early reports indicated that this hypercar would have a hybrid powertrain and spy photos backed up that theory by showing test mules with electrical safety warning stickers and emissions compliance equipment.
A hybrid V8 is possible, but the most likely option is V6 borrowed from the 296 GTB. In the 296 GT3 race car, that V6 engine delivers as much as 680 horsepower and works with an electric motor delivering another 272 hp. But that setup is limited for racing; a bit of extra boost would easily push the total output to over 1,000 hp on this proposed hypercar. Considering the current SF90 produces 986 hp, Ferrari's next car would have to improve on that figure pretty significantly.
As far as electrification goes, it's possible that this hypercar is a plug-in hybrid like the SF90 and offers some form of electric driving. The SF90, for reference, only has about 15 miles of EV range in the US.

How Much Will It Cost?
Ferrari asking over $2 million for this car would be a safe bet. The outgoing LaFerrari made our list of the "50 Most Expensive Cars In The World" with its $1.4-million asking price when new, so this new Ferrari hypercar should exceed that figure. Current alternatives, like the Mercedes-AMG Project One, Aston Martin Valkyrie, and others, cost well over $2 and $3 million respectively.
When Will We See It?
Production of Ferrari’s new hypercar is scheduled to kick off in October of 2024, which means it should debut a few months prior to that. Ferrari plans to produce 220 units in 2025 and another 300 examples in 2026, with only 79 examples of the vehicle available in 2027. Both a convertible and a track-ready "XX" version of the Ferrari hypercar are also planned for 2027, with the former limited to just a few hundred examples and the track version limited to just 30 examples globally.

I keep hearing 296TGB (strengthend) engine to tie it in with the LMP cars. Interesting choice for a Ferrari flagship if so true!

 

[Tourbillon]

Ferrari LaFerrari successor arrives next year as flagship hypercar | Autocar

Maranello’s next-gen ‘F250’ flagship gets aero-optimised bodywork and is likely to swap V12 power for hybrid V6

www.autocar.co.uk

Ferrari LaFerrari successor arrives next year as flagship hypercar

Maranello’s next-gen ‘F250’ flagship gets aero-optimised bodywork and is likely to swap V12 power for hybrid V6!

Ferrari will follow the generation-defining LaFerrari with a new flagship hybrid hypercar, codenamed 'F250', which will lead the brand into its electrified future.

Spotted testing in heavy camouflage on public roads in Italy for the first time – having previously been seen in a LaFerrari body in 2020 – the F250 breaks cover 10 years after the launch of the mild-hybrid V12-powered LaFerrari and is expected to cost upwards of £2 million.

A 10-year gap between flagship Ferraris is not uncommon. “It is true that almost every 10 years, we bring one out,” Ferrari chief technology officer Michael Leiters previously told Autocar. “It’s also true that Ferrari only does one when new technology is available. So we have to understand what is the technology we want to be on new supercars.”

Still in early testing phases, the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport and Lotus Evija rival is quite far off from a debut. Leaked documents suggest the coupé could launch in October next year, followed by the track-focussed XX in 2026 and a spider variant in 2027. It is most likely to be produced in limited numbers, like the car it succeeds, of which just 500 were made.

As our spy pictures show, it sports an aerodynamically sculpted body with a heavily scooped front bumper, recessed bonnet (like that of the iconic F50), and a substantial rear spoiler that runs the width of the car's rear.

The images also show the car using wheels fitted with five nuts (whereas the LaFerrari used a single locking cap), reshaped front and rear LEDs reminiscent of those on the Ferrari 296 GTB, twin exhausts outlets and six visible cooling ducts to feed the mid-mounted engine.

Details of that powertrain remain scarce. However, with Ferrari accelerating its move towards hybridised drive, it is expected to be powered by an evolution of the 3.0-litre mild-hybrid V6 in the 296 GTB – a car we awarded five stars to when we road tested it. This would mark the first time that a V12 engine has not been used in a range-topping Ferrari.

Pointers to the form this could take may have been shown by Ferrari’s Vision Gran Turismo concept. Revealed in November to preview the firm's future sports car design, it used a "more extreme" version of the 296's twin-turbocharged six-pot.

That powertrain develops a total of 1338bhp - 1016bhp from the engine alone and an additional 322bhp from three electric motors, one on the rear axle and one on each of the front wheels. It also produced 664lb ft at 5500rpm.

Inside, our F250 spy pictures show a familiar setting, including what appears to be a dashboard-mounted touchscreen and a squared-off steering wheel like that of the LaFerrari."

Interesting!

 

[Centurion]

This will be Ferrari equivalent to the Mclaren Senna.

 

[Tourbillon]

This will be Ferrari equivalent to the Mclaren Senna.

People don't realise and I'm not saying you don't know, but without any direct manufacturer as support from Woking or McLaren, the Senna set 17-19 seperate production lap records including Magazine. I think it's more!

It will take an incredible machine to beat it!

 

[dalab]

Well, then this is it, even camouflaged it has a very special appearance, let's remember something important, this design marks the one from now on of all the Ferraris ten years from now, it will surely be the new "philosophy" of the entire line below, this is cyclical with all the "hyper" from the F40 onwards F50/ Enzo/ Etc. and some that were before, obviously also the inspiration of a lot of manufacturers of barn Hypers.

Ferrari LaFerrari successor arrives next year as flagship hypercar | Autocar

Maranello’s next-gen ‘F250’ flagship gets aero-optimised bodywork and is likely to swap V12 power for hybrid V6

www.autocar.co.uk

 

[Tourbillon]

Big wing.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Mark my words this will go in the direction of a filigrane, mechanical, decently lightweight, Pagani style Huayra R rather than a heavy, plug-in/BEV, synthetically created blob.

 

[Tourbillon]

Mark my words this will go in the direction of a filigrane, mechanical, decently lightweight, Pagani style Huayra R rather than a heavy, plug-in/BEV, synthetically created blob.

We shall see!

 

[Bridster]

Mark my words this will go in the direction of a filigrane, mechanical, decently lightweight, Pagani style Huayra R rather than a heavy, plug-in/BEV, synthetically created blob.

Yeah, apparently the internal target is to beat the Valkyrie. Which I thought was gonna be impossible, but with how much Aston shit the bed, it might actually be feasible. Still, it's gonna require a very track focused, road unfriendly machine to do it - which is not something I am terribly interested in. This track focus will justify the use of the V6, though, as a huge deal will be made about how the car "borrows tech from LMH" and that's how it will be marketed.

Still, with just the V6 I wonder how they are intending to hit the required weight/power targets. I don't think they can currently get more than about 750PS out of the engine. They could get like 450PS out of the electric motors, that's not a problem, but then the battery will need to be relatively heavy. And, in that case, it would make sense to put electric motors on the front axle - which would make it their first AWD limited edition car.

The only problem with that is that it would make it very similar to the SF90/AMG One/918 in concept, which might be something they don't want. So maybe they'll just use one big electric motor on the rear axle. That would save some weight and make it more unique, but at the same time I suspect it would lose them some lap time as well. Curious to see which way they pick.

 

[Sunny]

Yeah, apparently the internal target is to beat the Valkyrie. Which I thought was gonna be impossible, but with how much Aston shit the bed, it might actually be feasible. Still, it's gonna require a very track focused, road unfriendly machine to do it - which is not something I am terribly interested in.

Agree. And simple solution - stop chasing lap times with road cars. It made sense when a quicker lap usually meant a road car that handled well and more fun to drive on the road. That died sometime last decade. Now they are too divergent.

 

[klier]

Goddamn the XJ220 will be so proud.
Only, the XJ220 doesn't come with all this hybrid BS so it will end up being a better car LMAO

Mark my words this will go in the direction of a filigrane, mechanical, decently lightweight, Pagani style Huayra R rather than a heavy, plug-in/BEV, synthetically created blob.

Impossible with that V6
It will be over engineered and far too heavy. AMG One vibes even.

I so hope I'm wrong and you are right.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Translated from Italian:

Ferrari F250 - Echi "Le Mans" e niente V12 per la nuova hypercar

L'erede de LaFerrari dovrebbe debuttare nel 2024. Con soluzioni tecniche mutuate dalla 499P e scelte progettuali di rottura col passato

www.quattroruote.it

Ferrari F250

Echi "Le Mans" e niente V12 per la nuova hypercar

Redazione Online
Pubblicato il 25/07/2023

Ferrari F250: images, previews, powertrain, release

The desire to amaze - and to dare - is not lacking in Maranello: models such as the FF (a four-seater and 4x4 Red) and then the Purosangue (a raised and four-door Ferrari) have demonstrated this in the recent past. In the next round, the risk could be to give up the V12 on the home road hypercar: that is, on the model that will collect the legacy of the LaFerrari, whose project is coded under the initials F250, but the definitive name will be another.

Inspired by the LMH. According to forecasts, the handover should take place in 2024: the same year in which Ferrari should present the replacement of the 812 Superfast, yes, still a twelve-cylinder. The spy photos of the new Cavallino hypercar circulated in recent months are also consistent with these timings, showing a car that is still far from the final configuration, but still very recognizable. Among other things, the most recent paparazzi shots of the car add further details (see the gigantic fixed rear wing) to our graphic reconstructions of the F250, which we propose here: renderings that do not claim to return a precise image of what the car will be like (anticipating a Red with few clues about its design always implies a certain degree of interpretative freedom), rather than framing its main characteristics. In this sense, the influences of the Ferrari 499P may not be limited to purely technical aspects, to encroach on the field of design. Among the various characteristic aspects, we have also hypothesized doors with an elytra opening, as on the LaFerrari, to give access to a low and collected passenger compartment, which should be integrated into a carbon monocoque.

Electrified and six-cylinder. On the technical side, the common thread between the Red from Le Mans and the F250 should pass, among other things, through the suspension department, bringing a push-rod type overlapping wishbone solution to the new hypercar. But, above all, the powertrain could be of interest, with the already announced abandonment of the 12-cylinder in favor of a plug-in hybrid configuration, as on the sport prototype, built around a six-cylinder engine. Compact, lightweight and featuring a low center of gravity, the twin-turbo V6 itself can deliver over 700 horsepower. But it won't just act: the battery-powered and all-wheel drive mechanics of the F250 will almost certainly benefit from an electrified front axle, for which there are two hypotheses. The first, according to which the latter could be powered by an advanced version of the Rac-e system seen on the SF90 Stradale and made up of two electric motors capable of independently controlling the torque sent to the front wheels; otherwise, an Ers unit similar to that of the 499P could find a place at the front, perhaps not with the same power (272 HP), equipped with a differential and capable of recovering energy during deceleration and braking. Furthermore, the presence of an electric motor connected to the internal combustion engine is not excluded, as on another plug-in, the 296 GTB: following this example, the unit would be placed between the internal combustion engine and the gearbox. Thus, the result would be a powertrain with monstrous power, although the absolute numbers of power and torque are, within the entire project, a secondary objective compared to lightness, driveability and aerodynamic efficiency.

 

[klier]

Very sad to see the V12 go, very happy to see it stay in the 812 replacement and I am going to be very happy by the looks of the new hypercar going by this preview.