M3/M4 [Spy Shots] BMW M3 & M4 (G80/G82/G83)

[tomazino]

Any source? For the M4GTS doing 3.7s

Supersportler: BMW M4 GTS (2016) trifft 911 GT3 (2014) - autobild.de

 

[hovabongZA]

Supersportler: BMW M4 GTS (2016) trifft 911 GT3 (2014) - autobild.de

I only see laptimes not accelerations ....7:28 is pretty impressive against the GT3’s 7:25.

 

[tomazino]

I only see laptimes not accelerations ....7:28 is pretty impressive against the GT3’s 7:25.

Table at the end of the article....
Messwerte* BMW M4 GTS (2016) Porsche 911 GT3 (2014)
Beschleunigung
0- 50 km/h 1,6 s 1,4 s
0-100 km/h 3,7 s 3,4 s
0-130 km/h 5,4 s 5,1 s
0-160 km/h 7,8 s 7,3 s
0-200 km/h 12,2 s 11,2 s

 

[hovabongZA]

Table at the end of the article....
Messwerte* BMW M4 GTS (2016) Porsche 911 GT3 (2014)
Beschleunigung
0- 50 km/h 1,6 s 1,4 s
0-100 km/h 3,7 s 3,4 s
0-130 km/h 5,4 s 5,1 s
0-160 km/h 7,8 s 7,3 s
0-200 km/h 12,2 s 11,2 s

Much appreciated, 3.7s isn’t so farfetched for the RWD M3 after all.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

There were also some tests (I think it was AMuS) in which E90 M3 GTS with 450 ps atmospheric V8 clocked 3,7 sec to 100 km/h

 

[Mii]

If BMW follows the same performance improvement (M3 vs M5), we'd expect G80 M3/M4 to hit 0-60MPH in 3.0s or less. Can't rule out AWD yet, as F90 M5 is 3.1s in official figure, M3/M4 would be lower than that based on previous gen comparison. Would hardly imagine BMW target 3.7s range performance for G80 generation, it has to go down below 3.0s to be even in the competitive landscape.

F10 M5: 0-60 4.4s Official
F80 M3: 0-60 3.8s Official

F90 M5: 0-60 3.1s Official
G80 M3: 0-60 2.5s (About half second faster than M5, this needs to happen to compete with Tesla Model 3 Performance Model)

G80 M3 Render

Source: #g80m3 hashtag on Instagram • Photos and Videos

 

[sako97]

^ That render is stunning.

I highly doubt the M3/4 will be sub 3 or mid 2 sec 0-60. 0-60 has never been a focus for the M3/4.

0-60 times are the most one-dimensional performance stat and is an overrated experience after the first couple goes. Tesla fanboys who always brag about 0-60 times whenever a dedicated sports car comes out do a massive disservice to the car community.

 

[Munzmjs]

^ That render is stunning.

I highly doubt the M3/4 will be sub 3 or mid 2 sec 0-60. 0-60 has never been a focus for the M3/4.

0-60 times are the most one-dimensional performance stat and is an overrated experience after the first couple goes. Tesla fanboys who always brag about 0-60 times whenever a dedicated sports car comes out do a massive disservi...

To add to that, lots of people already cant handle the power in the current M3/4, what more a car that can achieve a sub 3s 0-60? What BMW need to focus on is, alleviating the flaws of the current f80 with its on/off character. The power needs to be manageable and the driving characteristics consistent and predictable... That for me would be a major achievement/progression from the current f80 platform.

 

[klier]

Much appreciated, 3.7s isn’t so farfetched for the RWD M3 after all.

Clearly not when the current M3 CS already does like 4.1 secs 0-100....

 

[hovabongZA]

Clearly not when the current M3 CS already does like 4.1 secs 0-100....

True, hopefully how fast the M3 will be will not be it’s main highlight the way it handles and drives should take centre stage as with all M3s.

 

[SKY]

The big step forward needs to come from the power side. 500 PS should be mandatory for the M3 nowadays.

 

[chonkoa]

The big step forward needs to come from the power side. 500 PS should be mandatory for the M3 nowadays.

That could prove to be problematic for traction control if the weight is under the current one.
Just my two cents.

 

[Frankie G]

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[maragulon]

Some interesting information from ynguldyn:

G80 M3 and G82 M4 Coupe currently have more variants than we're used to seeing. First of all, it appears the manuals are still alive. However, there are hints that these cars will be available as both RWD and xDrive. For the first time in years, BMW is not going to force you into a car they think is best - they'll let you choose. On top of that, there could be two different performance trims right out of the gate - you'll get a Competition model that's more different from the base M3/M4 than the old Competition Packages would provide.
On the other hand, G83 M4 Cabrio would have a more limited selection: a single model with the choice of transmission.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Clearly not when the current M3 CS already does like 4.1 secs 0-100....

3.9 actually. Even the Competition Package M3/M4 does it in 4.0 seconds.

Not that I care, even as an actual owner.

 

[nikola1984]

There’s been a lot of speculation surrounding the upcoming G80 BMW M3. With massive changes made to the F90 BMW M5, such as the introduction of all-wheel drive, a torque-converter automatic gearbox and the lack of a manual transmission option, fans are naturally very curious (worried) about the next-generation M3. Fortunately, we have some very exciting news from a very reliable source close to BMWBLOG.

While we don’t have any official specs, nor has BMW officially confirmed anything to the public, we trust our source’s information to be accurate.

According to our source, the next-generation BMW M3 will be both rear-wheel drive and M xDrive all-wheel drive. Now, we aren’t actually sure if it will have both has separate options or it will just be M xDrive with a “2WD” mode, like the F90 M5, as our source didn’t specify. All we know is that, either way, the new M3 will have the option to either grip the road with all four wheels or shred its rear tires to bits.

This is actually good news, despite some purists that will bemoan it. The M3’s competition is fierce nowadays and it’s going to need all-wheel drive grip to keep up. Plus, after having driven the new M5 plenty, we’re fully confident in BMW’s ability to develop an all-wheel drive system that’s both incredibly fun and incredibly fast while also being safe when it needs to be.

For you purists, though, there is good news. The next BMW M3 will absolutely still have a manual option. Now, because we don’t know if there will be two separate M3 models, one rear-drive and one xDrive, we don’t know if the manual will be available for both. If there are separate models, it’s possible that the next M3 could only carry the manual on the rear-drive model, which makes more sense.

Powering the next-gen M3 is going to be some iteration of the new S58 engine — an M-ified version of the B58 — and it’s going to make between 450-500 hp. So combine that with M xDrive and a six-speed manual, along with all of the new chassis and handling techniques BMW is throwing at the next-gen 3 Series, and this has the potential to be the best BMW M3 yet. Though, we’re going to try and temper our enthusiasm a bit, so as to not over-hype the car. Emphasis on “try”.
Source: BMWBLOG.COM
EXCLUSIVE: G80 BMW M3 to be RWD and M xDrive, will keep manual

 

[SCOTT27]

Yes but still a picture of an M340i or even M Sport 330i?

 

[sako97]

There’s been a lot of speculation surrounding the upcoming G80 BMW M3. With massive changes made to the F90 BMW M5, such as the introduction of all-wheel drive, a torque-converter automatic gearbox and the lack of a manual transmission option, fans are naturally very curious (worried) about the next-generation M3. Fortunately, we have some very exciting news from a very reliable source close to BMWBLOG.

While we don’t have any official specs, nor has BMW officially confirmed anything to the public, we trust our source’s information to be accurate.

According to our source, the next-generation BMW M3 will be both rear-wheel drive and M xDrive all-wheel drive. Now, we aren’t actually sure if it will have both has separate options or it will just be M xDrive with a “2WD” mode, like the F90 M5, as our source didn’t specify. All we know is that, either way, the new M3 will have the option to either grip the road with all four wheels or shred its rear tires to bits.

This is actually good news, despite some purists that will bemoan it. The M3’s competition is fierce nowadays and it’s going to need all-wheel drive grip to keep up. Plus, after having driven the new M5 plenty, we’re fully confident in BMW’s ability to develop an all-wheel drive system that’s both incredibly fun and incredibly fast while also being safe when it needs to be.

For you purists, though, there is good news. The next BMW M3 will absolutely still have a manual option. Now, because we don’t know if there will be two separate M3 models, one rear-drive and one xDrive, we don’t know if the manual will be available for both. If there are separate models, it’s possible that the next M3 could only carry the manual on the rear-drive model, which makes more sense.

Powering the next-gen M3 is going to be some iteration of the new S58 engine — an M-ified version of the B58 — and it’s going to make between 450-500 hp. So combine that with M xDrive and a six-speed manual, along with all of the new chassis and handling techniques BMW is throwing at the next-gen 3 Series, and this has the potential to be the best BMW M3 yet. Though, we’re going to try and temper our enthusiasm a bit, so as to not over-hype the car. Emphasis on “try”.

Can you add a link to the online source?

 

[LaArtist]

Call me a fanboy but remember who said it first :
The new BMW M3 will smoke the 919 hybrid around the ring! My gut says 5.10.
Competition package without a doubt 5 min flat.

I can’t wait!!!

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

It

Call me a fanboy but remember who said it first :
The new BMW M3 will smoke the 919 hybrid around the ring! My gut says 5.10.
Competition package without a doubt 5 min flat.

I can’t wait!!!

Will be even faster than 5 min (we are speaking for Hungaroring, right?)