7 Series (G11/G12) [Spy shots] BMW 7er (G11) Spy Pics & Info

[Betty Swollocks]

I think that dashboard is exactly what we're going to get. Maybe it will look different once revealed but I'm under no illusions that it's a mish-mash of parts. It's even got a brand new design for the gear selector. They wouldn't bother with that if they've just raided the parts bin.

What I'm expecting for the G Series 7er is an X5 interior modified for the 7 Series, and that's what that is above.

You have to think as well, what are the motives for deliberately revealing part of the interior like that? Make no mistake, that is a completely choreographed reveal. So why would BMW deliberately reveal the interior if it's a mess and nothing at all like the production version?

This photo is almost identical to the famous S-Class interior spy shot, where the driver is actually lifting the cover up to show the dashboard.

 

[Will]

I think we will see similar switchgear to the new x5 tbh, hope to be proven wrong though.

 

[Rendra]

agree with Betty
i think the design is the real deal, minus all of the details, i am expecting a toned down i8 interior with more luxury
I am not an engineer but testing a prototype car in this phase with fake interior is just too risky

 

[SKY]

EVERY single time a mule shows parts of an interior, and, as expected, looks cheap because it is a mule, every fan of the brand goes with the same sentence "it´s a test mule, it´s too early to judge" blablabla people. How long have most of us been here? I was here when Autobild leaked the F01 interior. When everyone thought it looked like the E90 interior. That was the real interior, just the quality was not the one that you can find on the F01.

This is the design that we will see the next summer on the new G11. Make no mistake. THIS is the G11. We will see it with dark wook instead of a piece of plastic, we will see silver trim here and there, nice leather... But this is the final design without any kind of doubts.

Now, what do I think about the interior? I think... I think I was kind of expecting this, and EnI said we should not expect the same thing MB has done with the S on this one. This interior will surely share a lot in terms of design with the new X5 one. We will see less SUV-like cup holders, different air vents, different trim design, but the overall structure will be very similar. As far as I can see, I think we will get even the same or really similar buttons that the ones we have today on the F01, based on the A/C controls of the rear seats. The front air vents look exactly like the ones on the F30 and F32 4er. same shape. And the trim will probably mimic the shape too.

I think this will be the new X5 interior combined with some touches of the F30 in order to give it a touch of sportier feeling than the F01.

 

[Busty]

EVERY single time a mule shows parts of an interior, ........ I think this will be the new X5 interior combined with some touches of the F30 in order to give it a touch of sportier feeling than the F01.

I guess, most people know that , they just don't wanna believe it. Your conclusions are pretty spot on imo.
For me, the question is whether the pictures give the right impression. In the F01 picture you mention (which emerged rather shortly before the official reveal afaik), the finish was poor in terms of cracks etc but everything else was final and visible. In the present pics, many important aspects are kept in the dark (e.g. the lower 'protruding' part of the console, the overall layout). The conventional screen is disappointing to all those who liked the VFL but was expectable. (I attach an early shot where at least the central screen with chrome frame can be sensed. And a render that I did not know to this day.)

 

[klier]

EVERY single time a mule shows parts of an interior, and, as expected, looks cheap because it is a mule, every fan of the brand goes with the same sentence "it´s a test mule, it´s too early to judge" blablabla people. How long have most of us been here? I was here when Autobild leaked the F01 interior. When everyone thought it looked like the E90 interior. That was the real interior, just the quality was not the one that you can find on the F01.

This is the design that we will see the next summer on the new G11. Make no mistake. THIS is the G11. We will see it with dark wook instead of a piece of plastic, we will see silver trim here and there, nice leather... But this is the final design without any kind of doubts.

Now, what do I think about the interior? I think... I think I was kind of expecting this, and EnI said we should not expect the same thing MB has done with the S on this one. This interior will surely share a lot in terms of design with the new X5 one. We will see less SUV-like cup holders, different air vents, different trim design, but the overall structure will be very similar. As far as I can see, I think we will get even the same or really similar buttons that the ones we have today on the F01, based on the A/C controls of the rear seats. The front air vents look exactly like the ones on the F30 and F32 4er. same shape. And the trim will probably mimic the shape too.

I think this will be the new X5 interior combined with some touches of the F30 in order to give it a touch of sportier feeling than the F01.

Not agreeing with all of that, but it doesn't really matter; we'll see more soon enough.

What I'm expecting for the G Series 7er is an X5 interior modified for the 7 Series, and that's what that is above.

Completely different platforms, so no. X5 is modified F01. G11 is all new.

 

[SKY]

I guess, most people know that , they just don't wanna believe it. Your conclusions are pretty spot on imo.
For me, the question is whether the pictures give the right impression. In the F01 picture you mention (which emerged rather shortly before the official reveal afaik), the finish was poor in terms of cracks etc but everything else was final and visible. In the present pics, many important aspects are kept in the dark (e.g. the lower 'protruding' part of the console, the overall layout). The conventional screen is disappointing to all those who liked the VFL but was expectable. (I attach an early shot where at least the central screen with chrome frame can be sensed. And a render that I did not know to this day.)

You are an interesting member, mate. I know you know what you say so I will agree.

I bet that render you have posted is not that random, huh?

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Not agreeing with all of that, but it doesn't really matter; we'll see more soon enough.



Completely different platforms, so no. X5 is modified F01. G11 is all new.

I'm not talking about the platforms. I'm talking purely about the design of the interior. The new X5 interior design will form the basis from which the G11 will evolve. You can see that already with the placement of the nav screen.

 

[Rainer271]

My impression, maybe a wrong impression, is the particular generation of 5 and 7 is the basis for the X5.


5-Series E39

X5 E53

5-Series E60

X5 E70

5-Series F10

X5 F15

 

[SKY]

I don´t get it. Does anyone really think the E70 X5 interior is closer to the E60 5er than to the F01 7er?. The E70 was the first BMW to feature a lot of the interior features present on the whole F-Series range. The new shifter, the steerring wheel, the new integrated nav screen, the thicker good/alu trim in combination with aluminium below...

And the G11 will surely have a lot in common with the F15. You can clearly see the higher arm rest present on the new X5. Not that this time means a lot, since the evolution in terms of interior design seems to be much smaller than from the E65 to the F01.

 

[klier]

I don´t get it. Does anyone really think the E70 X5 interior is closer to the E60 5er than to the F01 7er?. The E70 was the first BMW to feature a lot of the interior features present on the whole F-Series range. The new shifter, the steerring wheel, the new integrated nav screen, the thicker good/alu trim in combination with aluminium below...

E70 is in between F10 and E60 imo. Design elements from both cars car be found in the E70.
F15 will likely end up in between the G range and F range design wise.

 

[Busty]

Guys, how have you been since these latest interior pics have emerged? These days could have been all perfect with the cup returning home but, instead, people around me really talk and write about these shots. Even those guys who should know better seem to be infected. We're through with football, what else can we polemicize against?
I have to vent my anger .... just a little.

'The G11 will not stand a chance against the S-class with that dash' ..... that's what I heard or read an estimated 47 times.
As I said before, I can understand why many people find the S the greatest. But I also know that there are quite a few who, like me, don't, design- and quality-wise. There are just so many approaches to luxury. Why is that so hard to understand? BMW is traditionally in a difficult position with the 7 series, as the S-class is and has always been THE exemplar of a luxury car. Mercedes-Benz values are more easily associable with luxury and, as a consequence, BMW had to make its own way from the E23 on. The G11 will be another chapter in the history of that duel ..... and the main characters will be as antithetic as can be, imo.
Especially the interior has always illustrated this quest for a very own approach: driver orientation/driver information in the first generations, the highly-positioned, fully integrated fixed screen with one-key control in the E65 (again, the whole line-up evolved from that). In the last couple of years, feedback has accumulated that this basic layout is not favored any more by many customers because it is too bulky and takes space (which it also does in the new S). An audi-like solution is not feasible because of cooling, the BMW policy of offering extensive updates during the cycle, and building space (mostly in combination with HUDs).

So, this one element we see is a logical step and part of an ensemble that will look modern and classy when unveiled. The aspects that make the G11 much more than a '3er on steroids' are just under covers yet. Other parts are clearly not final. As an example, I expected the START button to be located elsewhere than in this prototype (based on sketches).


Bottom line: Let's just wait for the real deal (or at least some better pictures). The time for comparisons and predictions has not come yet.
Sorry, had to get that off my chest.
Olé!

 

[SCOTT27]

The dashboards of recent models have put a lot of emphasis on creating surfaces. It provides a minimalist look , removes the amount of clutter you can find within other luxury models , adds extra space and will allow for easier integration of future technology especially on recently launched models.
You will see something similar on the next 5er. Its a theme that will continue. It allows the interior to reflect the minimalist appearance of a lounge but provide excellent ergonomics.

But the end result will show a high rate of quality , detail and finish.

 

[Mr Robert]

I like the F10 design, mostly because it is ridden of almots every darned swoch... the swoshes are killing me in interiors like the 6-series. I mean, that is a very good looking car, but the interior... American '90:s!

The dashboards of recent models have put a lot of emphasis on creating surfaces. It provides a minimalist look [...]

Wait, which interiors are we talking about?

 

[tomazino]

what`s really bugs me is that bulge where air vents are. It is so bulged, that lcd screen is in plane with instrument cluster. So, this is fake, or something very new for BMW....look at any others BMW interior. Air vents are always in plane with insturment cluster.

 

[Carmaker1]

I do not like how BMW does not revolutionize interior design language with the 7er, when it is the flagship of the brand. That is one Chris Bangle did right, when BMW brand design was under his direct guidance (reduced somewhat post-2004 over new BMW group position) with the E65. It usually lies with the 3-Series (E30) or nowadays the X5 (E70, F15). The F01 and G11 just seem like adaptations of the X5 dash designs. At times it just comes across as if BMW just looks at the 7-Series as just a big saloon and with not as much importance as the 3-Series. This is what I mean:

 

[Mick Briesgau]

At times it just comes across as if BMW just looks at the 7-Series as just a big saloon and with not as much importance as the 3-Series.

That same thought crossed my mind several times. Agreed 100% @Carmaker1
And that's a pity.

 

[SCOTT27]

In some way the modern surface led interiors of today's models actually appear influenced by the larger surfaces illustrated here with the E23 7er - Compare all the surface space on top and then look at the i8 and X5 and see something similar.

But nothing new as yet. But another look at the sleek dynamic outline.

 

[Rolf]

BMW and Mercedes Benz have different directions for design following in its cars. The S-Class is normally the start of the design for next generation of all its cars, while BMW it is definitely not the 7 series, the E23 followed 5 series/3 series design and mostly 6 series design of the 70's, the E32 followed E30 3 series design for 80's, E38 also followed the E36 3 series design themes for 90's, the turning point for BMW 7 series design was E65, it didn't follow any previous design theme and other BMW cars brought out after didn't follow its design them. This G11 looks like a an evolution of F01 but we will have to wait till all that tape is off. The interior maybe a mix of X5 like everybody is saying but no revolution like the E65 interior.

 

[Will]

I'm waiting for someone to come out with this gem, it won't be long.

'Ohh it actually looks as sleek as the E38 under all that camo'