So as not to rain on the parade after the launch when everyone is super hyped. Has MB given any thought to the rational of launching a brand new dedicated ICE premium sedan in 2021, given how the segment is fairing now, and how it would fair in couple of years let alone 7? For context, here is how C class faired in 2020 in its 3 biggest markets against the top selling BEV in the same class.
* Numbers from https://carsalesbase.com/
Market C Class BEV China 152k 135k (vol production only started in Q2) US 26k 167k Europe 82k 86k Total 260k 388k
If you look at the trend from previous years, it paints an even worse pic.
IMHO, Mercedes should have canned the car and focused the time, money, effort, capacity on a small premium BEV sedan - a real one, not a hack job.
MB Passion posted an update.
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THE NEW C-CLASS IS PRESENTED AS A LIMO + T-MODEL ON FEBRUARY 23, 2021
“Upgrade your comfort zone” - under this claim, Mercedes-Benz will unveil the new C-Class in the form of a purely digital world premiere on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:00 p.m. (CET).
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“With the new C-Class, Mercedes-Benz is breaking into a more efficient and even more digital world, creating an all-round future-proof comfort zone - a refuge that combines apparent opposites such as sportiness and comfort with efficiency, emotion and intelligence and thus defines modern luxury.” - said Daimler AG in a first official press release on the new generation “206”.
Electrification and 48 volt on-board system for all drives
According to official information from Mercedes-Benz, the new C-Class is the manufacturer's first series that is fully electrified. The second generation of the integrated starter generator (ISG) with 20 hp is used for the petrol variants with M 254 engines. The diesel variants receive the OM 654 M drive with a second SCR catalytic converter and additional AdBlue injection and also a 20 PS ISG.
As a further highlight, after the new S-Class, the new C-Class also receives the second generation MBUX (Mercedes-Benz User Experience) and optionally the new Digital Light lighting system. Also new is rear-axle steering with 2.5″ degrees and a modified driver assistance package (but without level 3 functions!).
Order release on March 30, 2021
The world premiere of the new 206 series will show the sedan and the 206 series T-model at the same time. Orders will then be released on March 30, 2021, with first deliveries from June 2021.
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The grille with star pattern / hexagons magnified
https:///2021/02/neue-c-klasse-zeigt-sich-am-23-februar-2021/
Is this the new GLC behind the C sedan?
Their platform wasn't ready correct? It will only be ready in 2025.
I think it's going to be a pretty car though, in terms of proportions and overall silhouette.
Is this the new GLC behind the C sedan?
So as not to rain on the parade after the launch when everyone is super hyped. Has MB given any thought to the rational of launching a brand new dedicated ICE premium sedan in 2021, given how the segment is fairing now, and how it would fair in couple of years let alone 7? For context, here is how C class faired in 2020 in its 3 biggest markets against the top selling BEV in the same class.
* Numbers from https://carsalesbase.com/
Market C Class BEV China 152k 135k (vol production only started in Q2) US 26k 167k Europe 82k 86k Total 260k 388k
If you look at the trend from previous years, it paints an even worse pic.
So as not to rain on the parade after the launch when everyone is super hyped. Has MB given any thought to the rational of launching a brand new dedicated ICE premium sedan in 2021, given how the segment is fairing now, and how it would fair in couple of years let alone 7? For context, here is how C class faired in 2020 in its 3 biggest markets against the top selling BEV in the same class.
* Numbers from https://carsalesbase.com/
Market C Class BEV China 152k 135k (vol production only started in Q2) US 26k 167k Europe 82k 86k Total 260k 388k
If you look at the trend from previous years, it paints an even worse pic.
This raises an interesting question (and I excuse myself for venturing a little bit off topic): What will happen to the E class in the coming years? The current-gen E-class will reach the end of it’s life-cycle by 2023. Since the latest S and C class will probably be produced until the end of the decade, it would be highly unusual for there not to be a mid-size ICE sedan offering as well. So will Mercedes just slap on another extensive facelift on the E class to extend it’s lifetime or will there be another ICE generation after the current generation expires?
Is the new C class just an extensive facelift then?
As for the E, yeah probably yet another ICE version, alongside a banana shaped EQE. And EQE will hopefully be a downsized EQS, and not an electrified W214/15 (is W215 a CL product code btw?)
So as not to rain on the parade after the launch when everyone is super hyped. Has MB given any thought to the rational of launching a brand new dedicated ICE premium sedan in 2021, given how the segment is fairing now, and how it would fair in couple of years let alone 7? For context, here is how C class faired in 2020 in its 3 biggest markets against the top selling BEV in the same class.
* Numbers from https://carsalesbase.com/
Market C Class BEV China 152k 135k (vol production only started in Q2) US 26k 167k Europe 82k 86k Total 260k 388k
If you look at the trend from previous years, it paints an even worse pic.
Yeah, tremendous development speed. Maybe it started before and will finish after the development of the Mars mission of SpaceX. But an EV platform is so hard to develop, they can not be compared.Whose fault is that it is not ready?
Maybe you should check the sales numbers of the C class in China. The L version accounts for half of the model sales.Not unlike the W/V223, the W/S206 will surely be an eye-pleasing automobile. And unlike the W/V223, the W/S206 will be a crucial volume model here in the EU (as the S-Class' most significant hunting grounds are located elsewhere).
It will be interesting to witness how M-Bs' EQ dedicated BEV sedans are received by the public. Their exteriors certainly constitute a gamble. Should they be rejected, it would not be surprising should M-B inititate a rapid "correction", diminish the duration of the originally planned model cycles and return to a design paradigm that is less pod-like.
There are more than a few examples that show us that dedicated BEVs' need not be pods.
The crazy thing is, we have 20 years of technological advancement, yet the quality of these renders have not improved a single bit.I really hope these stupid renders fall out of fashion some day.
I don't car what anyone says, the problem is that the layout of the facia with its two screens is clunky looking. There's certainly no elegant flow to this new design language.Together with the below segment average interior quality of MB interiors, this screen-heavy interior has the potential of ruining the car to me.
The C-class is on MRA II with the S-class, new platform and car. We've already seen spy pics of the EQE with the exact same shape as the EQS.
Lol I think you know the answer to this question. Of course Mercedes has looked at where this is going. Their product roadmap points to an earnest EV entry in this class in 2025 with this C-class bowing out sometime shortly thereafter. You could definitely say they're late to the party but I think it's been made clear Mercedes will not be prepared with the dedicated platform and battery tech for small cars until then. I'd much rather them debut the EV entry in this class with fully baked MB OS technology, a dedicated platform, and the right battery setup instead of punting something out similar to the compromised EQC.
With the BMW i4 coming later this year and BEV Audi A4 coming in 2023 (and yes the Model 3, leaving this class without a BEV entry is a risky move.
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