LS [Spy Shots] 2017 Lexus LS

[Bucketslash11]

They could, however the V10 found in the LFA is a rather pricy engine at about US$75000 each. They probably want something cheaper to build and not take the financial hit that they took with the LFA. I think Yamaha has stopped building the V10.

In a sedan, you'd want something torquier as well, whereas the 4.8L is a definite screamer but light on torque. The V12, as unlikely as it may be in an LS, is still being built, is probably cheaper to further develop to be up to snuff for modern application, and would provide effortless thrust you'd like to see in a high-end sedan.

where did you find the price/cost of the engine? (source)

a V12 could be a good tactical move as V12s tend to hold their value really well (what would you want, a V8 rolls or a V12 rolls?) and generate a lot of torque

the V12 is just as much status as it is good to be developed further

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

where did you find the price/cost of the engine? (source)

After a quick Googling "Lexus V10 cost/price," "Yamaha V10 cost/price" and "1LR-GUE cost/price," I could not find anything definitive. I remember either reading it or hearing it in a video (perhaps the NatGeo Megafactories episode).

 

[ateekt]

Brace yourself. Another hideous front-end with an unbearably ugly yet colossal grill is coming.

 

[330CIZHP]

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They could, however the V10 found in the LFA is a rather pricy engine at about US$75000 each. They probably want something cheaper to build and not take the financial hit that they took with the LFA. I think Yamaha has stopped building the V10.

In a sedan, you'd want something torquier as well, whereas the 4.8L is a definite screamer but light on torque. The V12, as unlikely as it may be in an LS, is still being built, is probably cheaper to further develop to be up to snuff for modern application, and would provide effortless thrust you'd like to see in a high-end sedan.

Actually that is incorrect. The V10 engine actually costs $157,000 according to the parts list guide due to the extreme exotic/lightweight and compact construction (plus involvement of the Toyota F1 facility and Yamaha).

Besides, the V10 engine was never designed to work for a big, heavy sedan car since the power delivery and design is extremely top end heavy (short stroke + fast piston speed + small cylindrical capacity = highest revs possible, which in this case were 9500 rpm). A big, heavy sedan requires a much more thick lower end torque based engine. It will take a complete rework of the engine (longer stroke to lower the revs and to move the power curve down to low revs) so I doubt the Lexus V10 is something that will ever be seen in anything other than an exotic car, if it ever comes to life again.

 

[klier]

^ The V10 and some electricity would work for low end torque. There's possibilities, but purely on paper I'd say.

 

[330CIZHP]

^ The V10 and some electricity would work for low end torque. There's possibilities, but purely on paper I'd say.

Technically, in theory the 5.3 Liter V10 currently being used in racing for the Code X could be an option. It is a longer stroked version of the V10 since LFA competes in a highly restrictive class, which restricts air inlet at high rpm so the stroked version is supposed to build power at low revs with the extra displacement and use only 7500 rpm rev range. It has been doing very well with it winning its class every year and placed [HASHTAG]#14[/HASHTAG] overall this year at the Nurburgring 24-hours.

 

[Keyonte]

for some reason i just can't imagine a LS-F, to me the LS is an old man's toy and an LS-F will be like giving him Viagra. Where i live you mostly see old men driving the LS

 

[Beemer B773ER]

for some reason i just can't imagine a LS-F, to me the LS is an old man's toy and an LS-F will be like giving him Viagra. Where i live you mostly see old men driving the LS

Viagra was made for old men.

 

[Nik47]

According to a new report which states that the next generation of Lexus’s flagship sedan, the LS, will be revealed at this year’s Tokyo Motor Show which commences on October 29, 2015. The new LS will go on sale in key markets next year, as a 2017 model.

source : 2017 Lexus LS to debut at 2015 Tokyo Motor Show

 

[Rainer271]

 

[Rolf]

Those front lights look terrible, I think the current LS with Nike emblem inside the main light looks much better.

 

[ThroughandThrough]

The DRLs look like fishing hooks.

 

[Merc1]

It is finally time for the only true Japanese luxury car maker to step forward with their best car, after almost 10 years of also-ran status. The current LS has been out since 2007. Nothing I can think of other than the current Audi Q7 and Mercedes G-Class have been around that long in the luxury segment, and the MB is intentional. I can't wait to see what they bring to the table. If this car doesn't wipe the floor with the competition than Toyota can forget it. They've had 8 years to develop this car.

This class is so predictable, the S-Class shows the way and then BMW and Audi follow with mixed results and then Lexus comes and then the S-Class leaves them all behind again. Now you have a Cadillac sorta entering this class and a new Eqqus next year.

M

 

[SCOTT27]

If this is the future of progressive luxury then it is vanilla. Soy tofu vanilla. Appealing but with no taste.
Their might be a high tech fuel cell underneath in which case that will be the real interest. But if it looks like this then they have failed visually.

 

[SKY]

Turd!!

 

[HUTSUTAo]

Few more days

 

[Rainer271]

2018 Lexus LS render born from LF-FC Concept

 

[Merc1]

If they come out with that, the segment has some real competition from Japan. Wow that looks good.

M

 

[Mr Robert]

I don't really like the exterior but I'm not worried about it. What worries me is the interior, as they are some of the worst in the segment and sitting in one makes me think of this:

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I don't really like the exterior but I'm not worried about it. What worries me is the interior, as they are some of the worst in the segment and sitting in one makes me think of this:

So are you saying that you come out of sitting in a Lexus feeling refreshed?