M3/M4 [Spy Shots] 2014 BMW M3 (Impressions, SpyPhotos, Renderings)

[bimmerjph]

But the F30 has, just like the F80, a turbo and all that.

Lets see the engine weights:

S54: 217 kg (E46 M3, I6 NA)
S65: 202 kg (E90 M3 V8, NA)

N52: 148 kg (I6 NA)
N54: 195 kg (I6 twin turbo)

N55: (I6 single turbo) I'm not entirely sure, I believe it's like 5 kg lighter than the N54
So both N54 and N55 are lighter than S65. And if there's any kind of cutting edge lightweight material in the S55, it'll be lighter than all of them, closing in on the NA N52 (and N52's highest hp rating is 272 hp, in comparison to roughly 450 hp for the new M3)

And the bonus round, S85: 240 kg (E60 M5 V10, NA)





You can have a 1080p tv because the box says so but who really knows???
I mean, did you count the pixels??

Seriously. Better believe it if it's in the press release.

Are those numbers just the block? Or is that everything?

 

[klier]

@Betty: We will, and in the meantime we keep speculating

Are those numbers just the block? Or is that everything?

Everything, fully dressed.
For example, the "Short Engine" is 148.5 kg for the 217 kg S54...

 

[bimmerjph]

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Hmmm. As far as sound goes there are some moments where it sounds like a proper BMW, then there are moments when it spunds like me after eating curry.

 

[mini_cooper4]

I noticed a few things in that video:

1. Turn in is precise and immediate.
2. Mid-corner speed is on Carrera S levels.
3. Power-slides are easy to control.
4. Grip is always there for this car.

Result: The car is unbelievably good! Yes, it doesn't sound that appealing!

PS: We have a winner! I can't wait!

 

[klier]

Yah it looks properly hardcore for a family sedan

 

[LaArtist]

I noticed a few things in that video:

1. Turn in is precise and immediate.
2. Mid-corner speed is on Carrera S levels.
3. Power-slides are easy to control.
4. Grip is always there for this car.

Result: The car is unbelievably good! Yes, it doesn't sound that appealing!

PS: We have a winner! I can't wait!

You my dear love have amazing perception, i wonder what you could notice if you got to actually touch and drive the M3.

 

[mini_cooper4]

You my dear love have amazing perception, i wonder what you could notice if you got to actually touch and drive the M3.

Yeah, just imagine what a decade of racing in professional championships can do to people... I can't enjoy sh*t... as I always notice too much

 

[LaArtist]

^i would race you in a personal championship

I would enjoy it to

Hahha
I need to stop this

 

[mini_cooper4]

^i would race you in a personal championship

I would enjoy it to

Hahha
I need to stop this

On a more serious note and if you mean serious racing I maybe should take my 97 Polo and give you a ten seconds lead

 

[LaArtist]

^sure man, but what am i driving?

Do you think a race my benz? that's no class.

 

[mini_cooper4]

^sure man, but what am i driving?

Do you think a race my benz? that's no class.

It's E-class so it should have some class left...
You got scared? Damn, let's stop spamming and go in the MB section

 

[LaArtist]

^Oh i have a BMW.
Its the ultimate driving machine

Game on..bring your VW

 

[mini_cooper4]

^Oh i have a BMW.
Its the ultimate driving machine

Game on..bring your VW

Nonono! I can't risk it against a BMW!

 

[SCOTT27]

Exciting M news in August.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Exciting M news in August.

The M4 Concept will make its public debut at Pebble Beach on 18th August. I expect official photos will appear a few days before that on the internet.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Often yes. But you're even questioning a pretty clear source, the head of BMW M.

To demonstrate how officials from BMW get it wrong, here's

Klaus Froehlich, Senior Vice President Brand and Product Strategies BMW Group saying the M235i will have the 18" wheels and special Michelin tyres from the 1M because "t​

hey offer better performance than the 19-inch versions.” The 1M had 19" wheels! And I will be amazed if the M235i has anything other than the exact same wheels as the M135i.​

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/4-series/65234/bmw-m4-concept-pebble-beach#ixzz2Zm9e9yxv​

​

 

[Levi68]

Exciting M news in August.

Indeed, first BMW V6 engine.

 

[chonkoa]

The M4 Concept will make its public debut at Pebble Beach on 18th August. I expect official photos will appear a few days before that on the internet.

So BMW will unveil the M4 before the M3?
Just curious...

 

[SCOTT27]

To demonstrate how officials from BMW get it wrong, here's

Klaus Froehlich, Senior Vice President Brand and Product Strategies BMW Group saying the M235i will have the 18" wheels and special Michelin tyres from the 1M because "t​

hey offer better performance than the 19-inch versions.” The 1M had 19" wheels! And I will be amazed if the M235i has anything other than the exact same wheels as the M135i.​

Read more:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/4-series/65234/bmw-m4-concept-pebble-beach#ixzz2Zm9e9yxv​

​

The journalist picked it up wrong. Some in Garching refer the M135i as the 1er M Performance model he was meaning the M135i .

 

[SCOTT27]

So BMW will unveil the M4 before the M3?
Just curious...

As a concept.