5 Series (G60) [Renders] BMW 5 Series G60 2023


The BMW G60 is the eighth generation of the BMW 5 Series. Body styles: G60 (sedan), G61 (wagon/estate), G68 (LWB sedan). Predecessor: 5 Series (G30). Production: 2023-
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7 Series will be the best in the line up. I'm not buying any excuses like the split headlights, or too tall or too long or wont be as fun to drive like the previous 7ers.

By far this 7er will be the most fresh and modern car in their line up and the split headlights make all other German flagship front ends look out dated and/or boring.

The 5er will surely be the best this segment will get but no where near the exclusiveness of the 7er. When the 7er will be seen in real life, day and in particular the night, it will most likely blow your mind and leave a lasting impression which will confuse people to choose between a Soft, Nimble and Understated but Charming chauffeur's W223 or a Stringent, Powerful and Athletic yet Luxurious lux limo barge. Yes this 7er is aimed at a Chauffeur market but it is still a BMW at the end of the day. The invitation to the Driver's seat will still be there!
The front end of this 7-series doesnt belong on a luxury car, its more suited to a SUV or budget car. Split lights are not elegant and make the front end look really ungainly. Sure its unique in this segment, but it won't make other cars look boring. It will be highly controversial and if it would be a new stand out BMW design feature why is the new 5-series not getting split lights?
 
Design disaster the front part is really boring. It doesn't look bad with the M package and the dark color. The most boring part of the car is the cabin. Nice but ordinary compared to other germans. The design we've seen for years.
 
The front end of this 7-series doesnt belong on a luxury car, its more suited to a SUV or budget car
I disagree, it is a new trend that I would even call necessary because it changes and gives greater presence to sedans (which are giving in to the sales of SUVs precisely)

Ultra-modernized but nothing new, entire generations of luxury car brands used huge and powerful fronts and to this day it is the norm for super up premium cars

This doesn't run anymore whether we like it or not, it was simple and bloodless when it came out but today it's totally invisible

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why is the new 5-series not getting split lights?
Due to the officially announced differentiation between the very "high-end" and the rest of the lines, there are already 3 models of those with split, it remains to be seen what happens with the new 8 series
. The most boring part of the car is the cabin. Nice but ordinary compared to other germans. The design we've seen for years.
What you say, you know very well that it is backwards, the cabin is one of the biggest hallmarks with respect to its predecessors and competitors in general, do not write just to write......
 
@leylandi Its not the layout we're talking about, its what is inside that layout which is what we're talking about and is absolutely amazing.

All premium cars have premium layouts (bar the W223 - worst S interior by far) but thats not the talking point, its the content inside them.
 
The front end of this 7-series doesnt belong on a luxury car, its more suited to a SUV or budget car. Split lights are not elegant and make the front end look really ungainly. Sure its unique in this segment, but it won't make other cars look boring. It will be highly controversial and if it would be a new stand out BMW design feature why is the new 5-series not getting split lights?

BMW said they want to keep the 7er exotic and niche like no other model. They want the 5er and 3er to stay B-A-U.

To be fair, the 'normal' headlight design has had all the juice sucked out it now. Its now time for something modern and crisp that brings excitement back into the front ends of German flahships. The W203, C209 were great examples of exciting the front end so that you look back at it when you lock the car and walk away. The current cars, especially MB and Audi do not really call for that action.
 
@leylandi Its not the layout we're talking about, its what is inside that layout which is what we're talking about and is absolutely amazing.

All premium cars have premium layouts (bar the W223 - worst S interior by far) but thats not the talking point, its the content inside them.
what's in the content.
 
I can’t help but ask, what is inside the layout?

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By layout I mean the profile of the interior - I.e. it is the screen area, the dash area and the cosmetics/trim, the centre console area etc. Many manufactures share a similar interior theme/profile as we have seen with MB with the new 223 and BMW with this new 7er but its the hardware that goes inside the profile which forms the design. The screen, the trim, vents, buttons, cup holders, infotainment panel etc.

And the W223's screen-to-'slab of wood' hardware configuration is just shocking to say the least. Spending a fortune in a car with a non-descript interior which has a 'cold and retro' theme seems very strange.

Lets face it, there is not a lot that can be done with interiors themes as its limited due to practicality and functionality.

But lets all now get back to the 5 Series :)
 
@jerman-car In fact, there are more wooden surfaces in the S class. There is a lot of wood material inside the doors and on the console. The 7 series is more successful in light games. The large ambient light passing through the center of the cockpit is the main element that creates the atmosphere. It is also made of plastic. Its predecessor had more wood. The situation in the S class also applies to this model. Cost escapism...
 
Wood and Leather is what you most expect in a luxury car. There is also the environmental issue which the sourcing of leather and wood is the next thing to be targeted.

THE i7/7 uses wood sparingly around the cabin that it’s not overpowering. But also acrylic and glass to great effect. The Capps on the headrests are a nice detail especially with the aluminium surround.

I expect 5 will be similar. Vegan options will be available however I don’t see Cashmere being offered on the 5. On the 7 it would be the option I would take, it’s surprisingly comfortable and elegant if not extravagantly expensive.
 
. Vegan options will be available however I don’t see Cashmere being offered on the 5. On the 7 it would be the option I would take, it’s surprisingly comfortable and elegant if not extravagantly expensive.

Some high tech fabrics would be most welcome. Doesn't have to be expensive cashmere, but a change from leather would be most welcome indeed.
 
As expected. It’s the price for having a new M5 V8. Who cares for the M550i after all.
I think the M550i G30 is a continuation and evolution from the 550i F10. Same goes with the 340i F30 to the current M340i G20.
 
I disagree, it is a new trend that I would even call necessary because it changes and gives greater presence to sedans (which are giving in to the sales of SUVs precisely)

Ultra-modernized but nothing new, entire generations of luxury car brands used huge and powerful fronts and to this day it is the norm for super up premium cars

This doesn't run anymore whether we like it or not, it was simple and bloodless when it came out but today it's totally invisible

IMG_20220906_173913.webp


Due to the officially announced differentiation between the very "high-end" and the rest of the lines, there are already 3 models of those with split, it remains to be seen what happens with the new 8 series

What you say, you know very well that it is backwards, the cabin is one of the biggest hallmarks with respect to its predecessors and competitors in general, do not write just to write......
In practice, the split-headlight solution works with negative spaces, e.g. the blacked-out headlights, to layer and dilute the visual heft of the front facia of the car (given its growth in thickness due to battery tech, etc.). BMW has to do this to retain a three-box outline that works for both ICE and EV configurations. Mercedes took a different route with the EQs: they abandoned the three-box in favour of an oval online that distributes the overall thickness of the car along the car's curvature, thus reducing the need for negative spacing (while also improving aero efficiency). The BMW's route is more complex in one way, while the Mercedes language is challenging in another––and they've both failed in executing their ideas in various ways. I haven't seen the new 7er in person yet, but it is certainly ungainly and unfinished in the photos (and I think this is not simply a matter of opinion, but also due to poor design choices that can be demonstrated and explained, i.e., it is no coincidence that both design languages work out better on the thicker outlines of the SUV counterparts).
 
THE i7/7 and the X7 are front heavy cars in the way that they have taller front ends which is trying to bind aesthetics to legislations.
It works well with i7/7 that you understand the split effect because there is a lot of space to fill.

But X7 is clearly an older design so it’s currently like a square peg into a round hole that it does not seem aesthetically clear. But it’s there to identify this is a Grand-Klasse Luxury model.

Although I expect that all this will make far better sense aesthetically with the second generation X7 arrives. It will have learned so much from the i7/7.
 
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Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, abbreviated as BMW is a German multinational manufacturer of luxury vehicles and motorcycles headquartered in Munich, Bavaria, Germany. The company was founded in 1916 as a manufacturer of aircraft engines, which it produced from 1917 to 1918 and again from 1933 to 1945.
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