Range Rover Sport Range Rover Sport (L494)

[Human]

^I drove two Range Rover Sports prior to placing my order, one a SC AutoBiography and the other a diesel HSE Dynamic both with over 5000 miles of hard demo usage and neither had a single rattle so in my opinion their rigidity is sound.

And they are the new 2014 model year? For the previous generation was body-on-frame with the Disco 3&4 as frame donor.

 

[JLBM]

Mr

Just makes me wonder, now owning and experiencing a Body-on-Frame vehicle and the ruggedness of it all with the FJ Cruiser. Using a RR+RR Sport off road frequently (fairly rough terrain, punishing the frame) within say 25 000 miles what would the stresses on a Unibody have done? Take a M-B GL without the 'newest' methods of Aluminum Unibody Construction that Land Rover claims and repeat my scenario. Point is I can't nor do I believe these vehicles unibody construction could keep structural integrity, working in 'body-twisting-terrain' frequently. X5/X6 or a friends ML, they tend to develop creaks and rattles just by driving relatively smooth gravel roads - not so frequently!

Just wondering.

Maybe why those who wonder (like me) stay with G-class's, LandCruiser 200's and Chevy Suburbans [/quote

My RRS (previous gen) developed rattles and creaks all over the cabin during my 20,000kms of ownership.

 

[Deckhook]

And they are the new 2014 model year? For the previous generation was body-on-frame with the Disco 3&4 as frame donor.

Of course, I thought you read my review?

 

[Human]

Of course, I thought you read my review?

I did, I did! Just eliminated any confusion. Thanks again

 

[Deckhook]

My RRS (previous gen) developed rattles and creaks all over the cabin during my 20,000kms of ownership.

I'm wondering if whether a separate chassis/body design is more enclined to develop rattles and creaks than a Unibody design.

I've been lucky enough to have been to Porsche's Silverstone driving centre and experienced their Cayenne on the off-road course, these cars are constantly hammering around this course non stop all day long and thinking back I can't recall noticing any rattles or creaks so maybe this Unibody design is better suited in the refinement department.

 

[Human]

I'm wondering if whether a separate chassis/body design is more enclined to develop rattles and creaks than a Unibody design.

I've been lucky enough to have been to Porsche's Silverstone driving centre and experienced their Cayenne on the off-road course, these cars are constantly hammering around this course non stop all day long and thinking back I can't recall noticing any rattles or creaks so maybe this Unibody design is better suited in the refinement department.

We should probably get back on-topic. Just to be objective, SA is a Pick-up crazed nation. What the F150 does for the US total vehicle sales volume the Hilux, Ford Ranger, VW Amarok, Isuzu etc. does for SA. Some brands never develop a whisper of a rattle or squeak, even if abused every day. Other brands have issues from day one. So in the end it seems, whether Unibody or Body-on-Frame it's all down to engineering from the 'who's-who' that determines the lasting build quality. Also that with newer tech and better R&D it either gets better or in some cases worse, all depending on the OEM.

 

[Kilcrohane]

According to the overwhelming majority of the mainstream media, 'The Best Car in the World'.

According to that awkward bitch of a thing called reality, 'The Shittest/Most Dangerous/Most Overpriced/Joke engineered/Joke Built/Most cynical POS ever... ...in the World'.



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The sooner this nasty pos company goes bust the sooner the world can move on from this disgraceful episode in human affairs, that has caused so many to sup so deeply with the devil.

 

[Deckhook]

Man you pedal some amount of horse shit, the roses around your garden must constantly be in bloom.

If your opinion was right and JLR PR machine had everyone fooled this would only be possible right up to the point they drove the car, the very fact you admit the vast majority of the world press adore it shows just how much BS you talk when it's about this brand.

 

[Sunny]

Consumer Reports paid over $74,000 for their Range Rover Sport and found it to be excellent in some areas, but quite the opposite in others where this would not have been expected.

Come on Kilcrohane, please educate us how the beloved consumer report got that part wrong, so that "the the world can move on from this disgraceful episode in human affairs that has caused so many to sup so deeply with the devil."

Really the devil? Seriously makes me wonder how you would describe the part of history where the British really did bad shit... not just bad cars.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Seriously makes me wonder how you would describe the part of history where the British really did bad shit... not just bad cars.

To be honest, I still think @Kilcrohane would consider JLR's sheer audacity to sell cars as being worse than the Irish Famine, Boer Wars and the Partitioning of India.

 

[hannaz]

Range Rover Sport Autobiography review by fly-wheel.com

http://fly-wheel.com/first-drive-2013-range-rover-sport/

 

[Deckhook]

^I think their conclusion says it all about the RR Sport.

The all-new RR Sport is a FANTASTIC piece is engineering, they’d gone to great lengths to ensure they break-free of the brand’s shady past and made a cracker of an automobile and best of all, TATA had done it, they’d showed the world what can be done when you take a decision and stick on with it no matter what the cost. To all who questioned TATA’s potential to revive the iconic Brit marques, they told, “the arc was built by amateurs and the Titanic by the pros”. Nuff said!

 

[Betty Swollocks]

^I think their conclusion says it all about the RR Sport.

They obviously didn't get @Kilcrohane's memo.

 

[Deckhook]

They obviously didn't get @Kilcrohane's memo.

You know the more I think about the more I reckon Kilcrohane is doing JLR a favor, prior to him joining Jaguar and LandRover barely got a mention and now they are fill most threads.

Good one Kilcrohane.

 

[rollo]

Ye olde unintended consequence. You may be on to something Dechhook.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

You know the more I think about the more I reckon Kilcrohane is doing JLR a favor, prior to him joining Jaguar and LandRover barely got a mention and now they are fill most threads.

Good one Kilcrohane.

That's very true. I don't think anybody gave JLR a second thought on here. You know what they say. No such thing as bad publicity.

I've always said @Kilcrohane used to work for JLR......maybe he still works for them and this is like some weird version of Scott BMW. Troll forums relentlessly until you have no choice but to leave your computer and go buy a JLR product of some sort. Even if it's just a T-shirt.

I think what is bordering on hilarious is not that he just clearly thinks they're crap, but that he seems to be seriously offended that they claim their cars are "rather good"! As if they're going to say anything different!!

Über alles JLR.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Reliability aside, I think the RR is the best luxury SUV. Period.

Reasons: Soft enough without compromising agility. Still a true off-roader, Boxy in a traditional SUV way yet modern. Full of gadgets, so you won't get bored quickly. Cayenne, X5M, ML63 all of them fall on their faces away from tarmac. So ride-height for those cars is meaningless.

 

[Deckhook]

Reliability aside, I think the RR is the best luxury SUV. Period.

Reasons: Soft enough without compromising agility. Still a true off-roader, Boxy in a traditional SUV way yet modern. Full of gadgets, so you won't get bored quickly. Cayenne, X5M, ML63 all of them fall on their faces away from tarmac. So ride-height for those cars is meaningless.

Up to the point of actually driving and own the RR Sport I didn't really understand the hype surrounding the latest RR and RR Sport but now 4 months in it is easily the best SUV I've ever owned if not necessarily the best handling one. Road noise levels in this thing far exceed my Cayenne and I'd imagine come close to S-Class level.

I can't deny the tech isn't up to the slick level of the Germans but it does everything that they do if a little more clunky in its actions but the rest of the package is so good you'll forgive it anything.

I've driven the Cayenne many times offroad on Porsche driving days either locally or over at their Silverstone test centre and whilst I agree the rest possible struggle away from the black stuff it can cope surprisingly well. Looking forward to my first offroad day with LandRover, according to the salesman these are another level to what the rest do and I know the course they use here as its one of the ones my son races in School boys MX.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Road noise levels in this thing far exceed my Cayenne and I'd imagine come close to S-Class level.

So it's noisy then?

 

[Deckhook]

So it's noisy then?

Awful, I can't even hear a pin drop on the deep pile carpet.