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[SKY]

BMW i5 review: it makes the Tesla Model S feel like a shopping trolley. The BMW i5 is as rewarding to drive as any other mainstream EV before it. And the M60? *Chef’s kiss*

BMW i5 Review 2023 | Top Gear

BMW i5 is part car, part ecosystem. Even so, it’s rewarding to drive and the cabin is world class

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WHAT'S THE VERDICT?

“This is the best-handling car in its class and makes a Model S feel like a shopping trolley”

The BMW i5 is an exceptional new car. We’ll have to wait to try the combustion versions of the new 5 Series, but if BMW’s stated aim here was to combine 3 Series dynamism with 7 Series luxury, it’s mission accomplished: this is the best-handling car in its class and makes a Model S feel like a shopping trolley. Especially the M60. Yes it’s expensive, but it feels every penny of the billion-pound investment it surely was for its maker.

As for the tech, this isn’t a car so much as an entire ecosystem. And while some of the new stuff comes across as a bit tryhard, the i5 just about avoids being too clever for its own good. Unlike the EQE.

Which cars are we suppossed to consider as part of its class? If the remark refers to the EQE and Model S, it’s good but that’s it. If it includes the Taycan, then we are talking.

 

[Matski]

Which cars are we suppossed to consider as part of its class?

The rivals mentioned in the article are the Taycan, Polestar2, and the Model S. Those are listed as 8/10, with the i5 9/10. Though, their favoured pick from the Taycan range is one of the base models which are cheaper than their pick of the i5 range, which is the M60.

 

[azeez samara]

Source: bimmerroday.de

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Well, the i5 is certainly convincing the reviewers.

For me the only interesting question is: how do the ICE perform? And how do they perform amongst their classic counterparts. I could imagine a test between a BMW 540d and a Mercedes E 450d will be epic and already historical.

 

[dalab]

Well, the i5 is certainly convincing the reviewers.

For me the only interesting question is: how do the ICE perform? And how do they perform amongst their classic counterparts. I could imagine a test between a BMW 540d and a Mercedes E 450d will be epic and already historical.

Quicker than sooner those comparisons will begin to be published
*A couple of years ago I mentioned the speed with which EVs took GCF and the internet, today we don't even realize that comparisons between ICEs are increasingly rare and less requested, I also miss them

 

[SCOTT27]

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[klier]

For me the only interesting question is: how do the ICE perform?

This is what CAR had to say about the i7 vs 7er:

M760es get the full gamut of chassis tech, including not just all-wheel drive and air suspension with electronically controlled dampers but also 48v active roll control and rear-wheel steering. Although this is available on the i7, only the 7 Series pulls off the trick of feeling genuinely nimble.
Which is quite some feat, given the size of the thing. The width is always a consideration but the balance and the poise belie the 7 Series’ dimensions in a manner the much heavier i7 can’t quite match. Where the latter always feels like its arm-wrestling physics, you’re much less aware of this in the 7.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

This is what CAR had to say about the i7 vs 7er:

My guess is i5 vs 5er won't be much different from i7 vs 7er. i5 carries alot more weight, so the ICE version is likely to drive more nimble, more BMW-like.
I wouldn't be surprised if a I6 engined 5er drives like a 7er of a few generations ago. According to the reviews, it has the most comfortable drive and is the most comfort orientated 5er of all time.

 

[SKY]

Action Shot.

Spectacular. Liking it more and more.

Taking into account range still isn’t great, my choice would be the 530e. 300 PS should be more than enough.

 

[AndreB]

The rivals mentioned in the article are the Taycan, Polestar2, and the Model S. Those are listed as 8/10, with the i5 9/10. Though, their favoured pick from the Taycan range is one of the base models which are cheaper than their pick of the i5 range, which is the M60.

That really sounds like a paid article. They're saying a 520 ICE platform with a battery handles better than a dedicated EV platform from Porsche?
"The eDrive40 is rapid without being outrageous..." that's 6 seconds 0-100 which pretty slow for an EV in 2023, even the i4 40 is faster.
Basically the i5 has exactly the same drive train and battery as the i4.

 

[Matski]

They're saying a 520 ICE platform with a battery handles better than a dedicated EV platform from Porsche?

Maybe... just maybe, the platform isn't the issue people make it out to be.

 

[Sunny]

Maybe... just maybe, the platform isn't the issue people make it out to be.

So according to you, all the other manufacturers (and funny enough, BMW too soon) spend billions on dedicated EV platforms just out of wanton need to flush money down the drain?

 

[Matski]

So according to you, all the other manufacturers (and funny enough, BMW too soon) spend billions on dedicated EV platforms just out of wanton need to flush money down the drain?

In some instances I'm sure that will be true, in others it won't be, but nevertheless people have been banging on about how compromised shared platform cars will be, and yet we're seeing reviews that put the shared platform 7 series as better than the S-Class on it's dedicated ICE platform, and reviews that put the i5 as better than the Taycan on it's dedicated EV platform... hence, from the point of view of what reviewers say about the cars (the discussion that was being had), maybe it's not the problem many made it out to be - at least clearly not enough of a problem to warrant accusations of paid reviews, national nepotism, splitting hairs over fractions of a second on acceleration being a safety issue, or whatever other nonsense people come up with when someone decides to not be unjustly critical of a BMW these days.

 

[Sunny]

In some instances I'm sure that will be true, in others it won't be, but nevertheless people have been banging on about how compromised shared platform cars will be, and yet we're seeing reviews that put the shared platform 7 series as better than the S-Class on it's dedicated ICE platform, and reviews that put the i5 as better than the Taycan on it's dedicated EV platform... hence, from the point of view of what reviewers say about the cars (the discussion that was being had), maybe it's not the problem many made it out to be - at least clearly not enough of a problem to warrant accusations of paid reviews, national nepotism, splitting hairs over fractions of a second on acceleration being a safety issue, or whatever other nonsense people come up with when someone decides to not be unjustly critical of a BMW these days.

I think you are giving undue weight to a few select subjective reviews over much more rigorous decision making process companies would have put in before deciding to sink billions on a new platform. If a hybrid platform is not a big enough compromise, why is BMW itself spending money on NK now? wny not continue with the one platform strategy?

Besides that, objectively, i5 has shitty efficiency/range and internal volume efficiency (the main advantages of using a dedicated platform vs not) compared to the leading EVs.

 

[Mars1965]

I think you are giving undue weight to a few select subjective reviews over much more rigorous decision making process companies would have put in before deciding to sink billions on a new platform. If a hybrid platform is not a big enough compromise, why is BMW itself spending money on NK now? wny not continue with the one platform strategy?

Besides that, objectively, i5 has shitty efficiency/range and internal volume efficiency (the main advantages of using a dedicated platform vs not) compared to the leading EVs.

I think the BMW has a great efficiency of it's electric drive train. It is just the combination of the relatively small battery pack and high weight that compromises the total package. So for now they concentrate on the "business saloon" with the known BMW values.

For now they are in a transition as well are the customers. As a BMW driver, will the I5 convince me to drive an electric BMW? No.
Is there any change you switch no another brand with an electric drive train?: No, i'll wait.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

In some instances I'm sure that will be true, in others it won't be, but nevertheless people have been banging on about how compromised shared platform cars will be, and yet we're seeing reviews that put the shared platform 7 series as better than the S-Class on it's dedicated ICE platform, and reviews that put the i5 as better than the Taycan on it's dedicated EV platform... hence, from the point of view of what reviewers say about the cars (the discussion that was being had), maybe it's not the problem many made it out to be - at least clearly not enough of a problem to warrant accusations of paid reviews, national nepotism, splitting hairs over fractions of a second on acceleration being a safety issue, or whatever other nonsense people come up with when someone decides to not be unjustly critical of a BMW these days.

Reviews are reviews.
Make up your own mind I guess. I for one find it hard to believe that the i5 handles better than a Taycan. Especially given BMW's habit of engineering out any feel/feedback over the last decade or so.

No doubt it's a great car, but the superlatives being thrown around to me, is a bit questionable.
I just wish it wasn't so ugly.

 

[dalab]

BMW i5 M60 In M Carbon Black Featured In Mega Photo Gallery

The BMW 5 Series G60 has arrived in France where the local division decided to put the spotlight on all-black i5 M60 with 21-inch wheels.

www.bmwblog.com

 

[Uygar]

Saw the new 5er (520d specifically) today. Imo it looks much better in real life. It was a frozen pure grey, which made all the lines pop. Front end looks super mean and the taillights were so cool looking, with all the 3D sculpting etc. Gotta say that it’s much more imposing than the G30. One downside was the height, it’s definitely tall for a sedan. The overall size is also huge, in pictures it looks like a fwd 2 Series GC but in real life it’s much bigger. Almost the same size as a previous gen 7er SWB. It was wearing the 19” base M Sport wheels. Couldn’t take a picture of it because the owner was inside of the car but it was this exact spec.

 

[Tuffode]

I wouldn't be surprised if a I6 engined 5er drives like a 7er of a few generations ago. According to the reviews, it has the most comfortable drive and is the most comfort orientated 5er of all time.

Agreed considering it's the same length basically as a G11. Almost 2 inches longer than an E65 and wider and taller, which in my mind is still a huge car.

 

[J.E]

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