5 Series (G60) [Official] The New BMW 5 Series (G60)

[Rolf]

Without wanting to get on my EV high horse again, once you live with an EV, you realise the focus on range is a complete distraction, and how far your car goes on one charge is not that important, believe it or not. The ability to charge while you're doing something else is a big advantage.

I have done hundreds of long-distance trips across Europe over the last 20 years, so I'm well-aware of the benefits of getting 1,000km out of a tank in a 520d. It's a great feeling, sure. But my point is, being forced to stop after 400km to charge an EV is not the hassle you would imagine it to be, and in fact there are other benefits to having an EV that an ICE cannot compete with. Once you start using an EV regularly, charging is simply not an issue. You know where your favourite chargers are, when they're likely to be busy etc. Let me give you an example:

I picked up my new i5 last week. In a couple of weeks I'll be making my regular trip from the Netherlands to the north of England, which is around 750km. Yes I could do it in my C-Class without having to refuel but I would not take that over the i5 or the Taycan...ever. The C-Class is actually less convenient. Once I get to my destination and then go to bed, the first thing I have to do when getting up in the morning before driving anywhere else is fill the car up with fuel. The "perceived" inconvenience of that is far worse than a stop en-route the day before, when you need the toilet and a drinks break anyway. The i5 will be fully charged when I next drive it as I can plug it in at my destination. Effectively my C-Class is a "one-stop" car, but the fuel stop comes at the end of your journey rather than during it. The i5 will be a "one-stop" car too, with one charge of around 25 minutes halfway through my journey, when I would need to stop anyway for a toilet break and a drink. I then get a full charge while I'm in bed at my destination. And give me a 25-minute recharge while I'm doing other things over a 5-minute fuel stop where I've got to stand holding a smelly pump and possibly stepping in spilled diesel on the floor. I did it last week and it was awful. Once you stop having to do it on a regular basis, you start to hate it when you *do* have to do it.

Congratulations on buying the i5 and thanks for your comments on your experience with the benefits of BEV over ICE. Personally doing long trips of 500km or more, I would also have a few stops in between to stretch the legs, go to the toilet, have a coffee and top up the tank. So like you said if you know where your best charge spots are then you can plan for having the breaks.

You were one of the guys that looked like a full on petrol head, but now you bought 2 BEV's and a PHEV. You become one of the most sustainable members now!!

 

[Matski]

You become one of the most sustainable members now!!

Owning 3-4 cars, including new ones... that's not sustainability!

 

[Big Sam]

Congratulations on buying the i5 and thanks for your comments on your experience with the benefits of BEV over ICE. Personally doing long trips of 500km or more, I would also have a few stops in between to stretch the legs, go to the toilet, have a coffee and top up the tank. So like you said if you know where your best charge spots are then you can plan for having the breaks.

You were one of the guys that looked like a full on petrol head, but now you bought 2 BEV's and a PHEV. You become one of the most sustainable members now!!

Thanks.

You're right. A couple of years ago I didn't see the point of EVs and didn't think they were better than ICE, but living with them on a daily basis I've changed my opinion. As long as you're in a place where the infrastructure is sufficient, I think they're better than ICE in pretty much every way. And that is from someone who has always been a petrol and diesel fan. There are some areas where BEV isn't superior, such as the satisfying noise you need in sports cars, but for everything else...

As for being "green", it was never a factor in buying EVs, but I suppose it's an accidental benefit, and even though people question how green EVs really are when you take into account the full life-cycle of the car, they're certainly better than chugging out petrol fumes from an exhaust. I have solar panels, so I can charge the Taycan and i5 for free! I did go for a blast in my R8 last week, however, and that kind of ruins things. As @Matski says, I own 5 cars, three of which are ICE, so I don't think I'll be getting a birthday card from Greta any time soon.

I'll post some photos of my new i5 when I get a chance.

 

[Titot]

G60 as a Thai police vehicle.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/5ExenwmQ1acyCRwb/?mibextid=WC7FNe

 

[Rolf]

G60 as a Thai police vehicle.

The Thai police have really nice cars now. I remember in 2002/2003 the police in Bangkok were driving mostly Toyota Camry's.

 

[Titot]

The Thai police have really nice cars now. I remember in 2002/2003 the police in Bangkok were driving mostly Toyota Camry's.

For Japanese brands, the most popular cars are Toyota Camry and Honda Accord.

As for BMW, they used to have F30 and G30 as their vehicles as well.

 

[empower77]

Thanks.

You're right. A couple of years ago I didn't see the point of EVs and didn't think they were better than ICE, but living with them on a daily basis I've changed my opinion. As long as you're in a place where the infrastructure is sufficient, I think they're better than ICE in pretty much every way. And that is from someone who has always been a petrol and diesel fan. There are some areas where BEV isn't superior, such as the satisfying noise you need in sports cars, but for everything else...

As for being "green", it was never a factor in buying EVs, but I suppose it's an accidental benefit, and even though people question how green EVs really are when you take into account the full life-cycle of the car, they're certainly better than chugging out petrol fumes from an exhaust. I have solar panels, so I can charge the Taycan and i5 for free! I did go for a blast in my R8 last week, however, and that kind of ruins things. As @Matski says, I own 5 cars, three of which are ICE, so I don't think I'll be getting a birthday card from Greta any time soon.

I'll post some photos of my new i5 when I get a chance.

Is the i5 floor a little higher than the ice variant?

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I ordered an i5 eDrive40 this morning.

Just so we're all clear, I don't think it's a sports car.

Btw, congrats! Sedan or Touring?

 

[SCOTT27]

i5 M60 Touring.

 

[Big Sam]

Is the i5 floor a little higher than the ice variant?

The same floor, I believe, although I haven't compared them directly. They're essentially the same car, which is why the i5 still has a transmission tunnel even though it doesn't need one. The boot floor is slightly higher in the i5.

Btw, congrats! Sedan or Touring?

Sedan.

 

[Merc1]

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[Jonathan19]

 

[SCOTT27]

Isle of Man Green.

@stephanbarral

 

[Design FIRST]

Isle of Man Green.

@stephanbarral

The widened track and flared wheelarches really transform the 5ers visual appeal. The M5 looks fabulous.

 

[SKY]

Has anyone seen the MY25 2er? BMW has painted several parts the car used to have in black. Since the G60 has most of the same parts in black too, I was wondering if that would be the case as well for the 5er.

 

[Big Sam]

Has anyone seen the MY25 2er? BMW has painted several parts the car used to have in black. Since the G60 has most of the same parts in black too, I was wondering if that would be the case as well for the 5er.

The difference is, due to the shared ICE/BEV platform, the 5 Series needs the lower black elements to disguise the large sheet metal along the side of the car. The 2 Series doesn't have that issue.

 

[Jonathan19]

 

[SCOTT27]

i5 M60

 

[Giannis]

I had a brief encounter with one, yesterday at the local dealership. Basically, I spent a couple of minutes looking at the exterior and then another couple of minutes sitting inside. All I noticed was the you sit quite high, the interior feels solid but very plastic-y and that the screen is huge (that's not a good thing for me). It felt like a lounge and not like a sports sedan.

Then I went downstairs to order some parts for the E39, which feels like stepping into a Ford Model T, after the G60, but it's sheer driving pleasure.

 

[SCOTT27]

I had a brief encounter with one, yesterday at the local dealership. Basically, I spent a couple of minutes looking at the exterior and then another couple of minutes sitting inside. All I noticed was the you sit quite high, the interior feels solid but very plastic-y and that the screen is huge (that's not a good thing for me). It felt like a lounge and not like a sports sedan.

Then I went downstairs to order some parts for the E39, which feels like stepping into a Ford Model T, after the G60, but it's sheer driving pleasure.

Some days you can’t beat an E34.