Model X [Official] Tesla Model X

[KA2607]

the front end is just too bland,falcon doors seem exciting.rear headroom in general seems to be limited especially for the middle passenger

 

[klier]

....and what about the dolphins? ....THE DOLPHINS MARTIN?

The dolphins? The dolphins will be happy with a bigger ocean with warmer water.

 

[Wolfgang]

Sergey Brin got #4.

http://www.scmp.com/tech/enterprise...-sergey-brin-gets-teslas-4th-model-x-ceo-musk

 

[martinbo]

Look it's not even a proper SUV (not that there is such a thing) in the classic sense - it's definitely more of a crossover.

 

[Centurion]

BMW should make a 5er GT hybrid to challenge the Model X. Both cars have an odd but similar shape. I am not convinced the Tesla is anymore capable off load than a 5er GT with AWD.

 

[Wolfgang]

Yes, it's not as high as a SUV. Seems even flatter than an R-Class?

GLA .............. 1.52 m
Model X ....... 1.63 m
R-Class .......... 1.67 m
GLC/GLK ........ 1.67 m
GLE Coupé ..... 1.73 m
GLE/ML ......... 1.80 m
GLS/GL ......... 1.85 m
G ................. 1.95 m
Camel ........... 2.15 m
G 6x6 ........... 2.28 m

http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/mercedes-benz-concept-coupe-suv.50549/page-2

 

[Marc-1]

I have just read the price: $132,000
Are they kidding?

Model X / Land Rover Sport from $69,950
Wheelbase 3,06 m / 2,92 m
Length 5,00 m / 4,85 m
Width 2,08 m / 2,08
Height 1,63 m / 1,77 m
Wading Depth --- / 0,84 m

U.S. News & World Report: 2015 Best Cars for Families
Range Rover Sport - Luxury 3-Row SUVs
Auto writers say the 2015 Land Rover Range Rover Sport has an admirable balance of luxury and performance, offering a smooth ride, top-quality interior, potent engines and excellent off-road abilities.

 

[Monster]

I have just read the price: $132,000
Are they kidding?

Model X / Land Rover Sport from $69,950
Wheelbase 3,06 m / 2,92 m
Length 5,00 m / 4,85 m
Width 2,08 m / 2,08
Height 1,63 m / 1,77 m
Wading Depth --- / 0,84 m

U.S. News & World Report: 2015 Best Cars for Families
Range Rover Sport - Luxury 3-Row SUVs
Auto writers say the 2015 Land Rover Range Rover Sport has an admirable balance of luxury and performance, offering a smooth ride, top-quality interior, potent engines and excellent off-road abilities.

US News & World Report, is that the best you can come up with? Do you have difficulty understanding that they are two different types of vehicle? Btw please address my previous post and stop avoiding the issue. Let me clue you in, you are on the moderator's watch list.

 

[Marc-1]

What is the meaning of 'they are two different types of vehicle'? They arn't, ok the Range Rover Sport is $60,000 cheaper, there is no need to plan everything, neither the routing nor the position of any superchargers.

Let me clue you in, you are on the moderator's watch list

Don't make me laugh, is this a censored lobbyists and claqueurs forum only?

 

[klier]

What is the meaning of 'they are two different types of vehicle'?

Like how an i3 is different from a Golf. Is that difficult to understand?

 

[Marc-1]

There should be no difference for everyday use, 2 similar size cars. If there is a distinction, then it is:
you can jump into the Range Rover Sport anytime, going everywhere, in any conditions, any distance with any speed. If the Model X is being charged, you can't, if your destination is to far away, you can't, if you are in a hurry, you can't, high speed and the range decreases dramatically.
So, it was pointed, 'they are two different types of vehicle' when I mentioned the price difference (around $60,000) for the Model X.
However, I've waited for the justification for the price difference.

Didn't get it,

It is unnecessary to mention!

 

[Centurion]

There should be no difference for everyday use, 2 similar size cars. If there is a distinction, then it is:
you can jump into the Range Rover Sport anytime, going everywhere, in any conditions, any distance with any speed. If the Model X is being charged, you can't, if your destination is to far away, you can't, if you are in a hurry, you can't, high speed and the range decreases dramatically.
So, it was pointed, 'they are two different types of vehicle' when I mentioned the price difference (around $60,000) for the Model X.
However, I've waited for the justification for the price difference.



It is unnecessary to mention!

The Tesla X reasons for costing more are legitimate. It's an early adopters car that features very new and innovative technology e.g electric motors, big windshield, falcon doors. No one will buy the Tesla because they just want to get from A to B, because a Range Rover or Nissan SUV can do the same thing cheaper.

 

[mentir]

So, it was pointed, 'they are two different types of vehicle' when I mentioned the price difference (around $60,000) for the Model X.
However, I've waited for the justification for the price difference.

You're either confused or disingenuous about the pricing (amongst other things) when you talk about a $60,000 difference.

You quote the price of an un-optioned Range Rover Sport HSE, and compare it to the price of a Signature Edition P90D Model X, which is a heavily optioned high performance variant. (Based on the Model S, the Signature Editions are early launch models and include features as standard that are optional on non-launch cars).

The accurate comparison would be the Range Rover SVR, which starts at $111,350 and can be optioned up to $130,440 which is very in line with the pricing of Signature P90D Model X.

To put things in perspective, the Tesla Model S P85D starts at $105,000, and can be optioned up to $132,500. Meanwhile, the base Model S 70D starts at $75,000 and a base 85D starts at $85,000. That's nearly a $60,000 difference between the base version and the fully loaded performance variant.

 

[SCOTT27]

BMW should make a 5er GT hybrid to challenge the Model X. Both cars have an odd but similar shape. I am not convinced the Tesla is anymore capable off load than a 5er GT with AWD.

Certainly Sir.
Power eDrive or Hydrogen Fuel Cell?

Seriously though the next 5er Gran Turismo will be offered with both instead of a V8. Then again there is the BMWi Crossover which will offer seating for 7.

 

[Monster]

What is the meaning of 'they are two different types of vehicle'? They arn't, ok the Range Rover Sport is $60,000 cheaper, there is no need to plan everything, neither the routing nor the position of any superchargers.

Just like driving a long trip with ICE vehicles, you need to plan your trip.

Don't make me laugh, is this a censored lobbyists and claqueurs forum only?

This forum encourage and value intelligent discussions, we ask members to follow the list of guidelines. We don't censor discussions, however we do the occasional house cleaning, after all nobody wants to keep the rubbish inside the house.

 

[SDNR]

Don't make me laugh, is this a censored lobbyists and claqueurs forum only?

Your contrary opinions are not a problem at all .....but you might want to work on the way you express them.

 

[Marc-1]

Seems to be some confusion as to my position on electromobility. As already mentioned, for the daily needs in urban traffic, it is already adequate to use an electric car, excellent for places with very polluted air like big cities.

But this is a Model X thread. We are talking about a 2,5-ton car, 257 miles range, X 90D (518 hp) starts at $132,000, while the P90D (762 hp) starts at $142,000. Lots of power and battery capacity for long road trips, one should think.
Lets take a 500 miles Autobahn trip from Munich to Hamburg. Driving time: Fast 5:30 h, 130 kph 6:30 h, 90 kph 8:30 h. Everybody would drive relaxed and comfortable with Teslas 762 hp luxurious Model X, may be 180 ~ 200 kph. But the driver will realize, that the range will drop very quickly.

If you drive fast, you will have to recharge very quickly. So, the fastest solution for Model X going this trip is slow down, to avoid lots of stops for recharging. Staying in the slipstream of a truck could be the chance, to arrive with only 1 stop. Germans don't like driving slow on the Autobahn with a 762 hp / $142,000 car. First time in history, the faster you drive, the later you will arrive.

Tesla Motors just named a fresh top executive in Germany where the U.S. electrical auto manufacturer is fighting to obtain a foothold. Tesla seems to misunderstand the great importance of the Autobahn. The goal was selling 1.000 Model S a month, they aren't sold per year. Many potential purchasers asking why should I use a car with that kind of performance if I am not able to use it.

The accurate comparison would be the Range Rover SVR, which starts at $111,350 and can be optioned up to $130,440 which is very in line with the pricing of Signature P90D Model X.

I took this one (Range Rover Sport HSE), because the performance is ready for all eventualities but I agree, that there should be calculated additional $10,000 for features.

 

[Padi]

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That exhaust pipe is something else.

As for the model X, interesting specs and all, but like it's been said, ugly as duck. An SUV/wagon would've been a safer bet IMO. Bigger drag coefficient though.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

It is unnecessary to mention!

It's publicly available information that YOU yourself have chosen to publish on the Internet. Lots of info about me is out there. You're not very popular on other forums either it seems.

 

[Marc-1]

It's publicly available information that YOU yourself have chosen to publish on the Internet.

Welcome!

Model S Efficiency and Range
Elon Musk and JB Straubel May 9, 2012

http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/model-s-efficiency-and-range