Model 3 [Official] Tesla Model 3

[klier]

I think fake shifting in an EV is one of the stupidest ideas in the car world.

In my own experience, one of the delights of an EV is the seamless and instantaneous power delivery everywhere, Why the heck would you want to break that up artificially?

If you enjoy shifting, as I do, get a proper manual ICE car that needs shifting to be driven properly.

Just my 2 shifts.

What Koenigsegg is doing is the future imo. Toyota is working on something completely artificial too, and Pagani has something going I believe with the Utopia.

Really like it a lot. If this is the way to keep manual feelings so be it.
You almsot make it sound like it's easy to get a PROPER manual ICE these days. It's near on impossible except if you want a BMW or Porsche.

 

[Sunny]

What Koenigsegg is doing is the future imo. Toyota is working on something completely artificial too, and Pagani has something going I believe with the Utopia.

Really like it a lot. If this is the way to keep manual feelings so be it.
You almsot make it sound like it's easy to get a PROPER manual ICE these days. It's near on impossible except if you want a BMW or Porsche.

Or a Toyota or a Honda or a Ford and I am sure there are more. Or ofcourse the vast used car market.

I think we had this discussion before, so no point rehashing it. But my offer stands, if you think fake manual transmission in EVs will be a thing, happy to wager a donation to a charity of our choice.

 

[kiki voinea]

Look at me quoting misleading into something that you never said, but maybe I can make it look like you said it

Want to see the epitome of uselessness?

Reacting to a useless post.

Did I say ANYWHERE that Tesla is "the most demanded thing ever" ?

NO

Did I say ANYWHERE that Tesla has lowered price but the demand is huge ?

NO

Did you quote me because it made it sound like I said it?

YES


Pathetic....

 

[klier]

Or a Toyota or a Honda or a Ford and I am sure there are more. But my offer stands, if you think fake manual transmission in EVs will be a thing, happy to wager a donation to a charity of our choice.

It will be a thing as it already is now. Multi billion Dollar companies are creating them.
I'll IM you my bank account. I guess I am the charity myself this time.

 

[Matski]

Pathetic....

You made an unambiguous statement with no caveat or context regarding the sales price of vehicles, I simply applied what you said, to something you said about the sales price of vehicles, and nothing I quoted was edited.

You had to edit my entire reply to make your point.

Musk stans.

 

[Cashmere]

normal seats

New performance variant is going to get proper bolstered seats

 

[kiki voinea]

I simply applied what you said,

WHAT more precisely?

Please quote also the sencence where I SAID that DEMAND FOR TESLA IS BIG/HUGE/whatever

What got you thinking that, besides acting like you work for BBC

normal seats

New performance variant is going to get proper bolstered seats

I think this version of the Performance will get more things to it , rather than just power and some infotainment extra menus.

Cars shot under cameo suggest that they might have some optical differences on the exterior also.

Maybe Tesla looked at what competition is doing with the Performance version of their cars , and see that people might want that

 

[Jonathan19]

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[kiki voinea]

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The parking system is still such a mess. Even with the latest HW4 , looks even worse.

After looking at this clip , it looks worse than my mother's 3 model ( first gen Tesla Vision ) . So jittery

 

[Cashmere]

 

[kiki voinea]

You just have to love the media outlets this days.

And butt-hurt Toyota , and it's piece of crap Mirai , how pathetic they can be with this...

What is the difference between Hybrid and full EV? Adding parts to make it MORE prone to failure , MORE future-proof repairs program, and so on.

All industry is down right now. EVs are the future.

"We’re transitioning to a brand new technology. It’s expensive. " . How it's expensive to put an electric motor + a battery , more expensive than making a 2.0 hybrid 8 speed twin turbo blabla with thousands of parts?

Nobody wants EVs because EVs are cheap to make/cheap to repair/few parts involved/few to no service required.

And I am not speaking "from the internet". I daily drive an EV for the last 2 years right now, and I would never EVER go back to an ICE car. Never had an issue. Never serviced it. No brake pads change. No oil change. On the other hand , the last ICE car that I had , the last service that it had costed me around 10k ( timing belt change ) . Of course that no major car manufacturer wants EV...How will they survive with no after service...

Elon Musk just lost $28 billion as Tesla took a beating. Now Toyota says ‘people are waking up to reality’ that EV adoption will be an uphill battle

"We’re transitioning to a brand new technology. It’s expensive. It requires people to have a different relationship with their vehicle that has been largely unchanged for decades," one expert said.

finance.yahoo.com

 

[Centurion]

You just have to love the media outlets this days.

And butt-hurt Toyota , and it's piece of crap Mirai , how pathetic they can be with this...

What is the difference between Hybrid and full EV? Adding parts to make it MORE prone to failure , MORE future-proof repairs program, and so on.

All industry is down right now. EVs are the future.

"We’re transitioning to a brand new technology. It’s expensive. " . How it's expensive to put an electric motor + a battery , more expensive than making a 2.0 hybrid 8 speed twin turbo blabla with thousands of parts?

Nobody wants EVs because EVs are cheap to make/cheap to repair/few parts involved/few to no service required.

And I am not speaking "from the internet". I daily drive an EV for the last 2 years right now, and I would never EVER go back to an ICE car. Never had an issue. Never serviced it. No brake pads change. No oil change. On the other hand , the last ICE car that I had , the last service that it had costed me around 10k ( timing belt change ) . Of course that no major car manufacturer wants EV...How will they survive with no after service...

Elon Musk just lost $28 billion as Tesla took a beating. Now Toyota says ‘people are waking up to reality’ that EV adoption will be an uphill battle

"We’re transitioning to a brand new technology. It’s expensive. It requires people to have a different relationship with their vehicle that has been largely unchanged for decades," one expert said.

finance.yahoo.com

The media love poking sticks at Elon. Yes, EV sales have entered a challenging phase. However Tesla is positioned to out perform as the facelift Model 3 is kicking ass in reviews and is extremely well priced.

 

[kiki voinea]

The media love poking sticks at Elon. Yes, EV sales have entered a challenging phase. However Tesla is positioned to out perform as the facelift Model 3 is kicking ass in reviews and is extremely well priced.

Q4 should be interesting to see.

Should be a mark for EVs if Tesla manages to sale this like hot cakes

 

[A.P.]

Those new Performance seats already come with wrinkles on the right side! That's within spec according to Tesla!

 

[kiki voinea]

Those new Performance seats already come with wrinkles on the right side! That's within spec according to Tesla!

You know what's funny? I was just looking at Rich Rebuilds last video , and he bought a 720s. And before that , I saw plenty of other clips. And saw the same thing on forums :

McLaren are 1000% worse than any Tesla , YET , everybody loves them....I mean , like , 1 out of 4 have MAJOR issues. And I follow and watch lots of car YouTubers or IG car dudes that own McLarens. All love them , but also all complain about quality.

Branding , pricing , can't be sure . But it is some sort of hypocrisy , because the number one complaint regarding Teslas is build quality.

McLarens are something like a very good looking prostitute. You know what it is . You know that you won't have a long relation ship with it. You know it will leave you when you would not want to. But still , you like it....

 

[TopspeedPT]

Tesla Model 3 Ranked Last In German TUV Reliability Report

Problems with the suspension and brakes resulting from large gaps between services caused almost 15 percent of used Model 3s to fail the inspection

Age group	Car	Defect rate %
2-3 years	Tesla Model 3	14.7
	Dacia Logan	11.4
	Seat Alhambra	10.3
4-5 years	BMW X5/X6	17.9
	VW Sharan	17.7
	BMW 2-Series Tourer	17.6
6-7 years	Dacia Dokker	25.9
	BMW 5/6-Series	24.8
	Dacia Duster	24.6
8-9 years	Dacia Dokker	32.2
	Fiat Punto	29.7
	Dacia Logan	29.1
10-11 years	Renault Twingo	36.2
	Dacia Logan	35.5
	Renault Clio	34.6
12-13 years	Dacia Logan	40.9
	Renault Twingo	39.9
	Nissan Qashai	38.8

link

 

[kiki voinea]

Tesla Model 3 Ranked Last In German TUV Reliability Report

Age group	Car	Defect rate %
2-3 years	Tesla Model 3	14.7
	Dacia Logan	11.4
	Seat Alhambra	10.3
4-5 years	BMW X5/X6	17.9
	VW Sharan	17.7
	BMW 2-Series Tourer	17.6
6-7 years	Dacia Dokker	25.9
	BMW 5/6-Series	24.8
	Dacia Duster	24.6
8-9 years	Dacia Dokker	32.2
	Fiat Punto	29.7
	Dacia Logan	29.1
10-11 years	Renault Twingo	36.2
	Dacia Logan	35.5
	Renault Clio	34.6
12-13 years	Dacia Logan	40.9
	Renault Twingo	39.9
	Nissan Qashai	38.8

link

Can you quote the link ?

Because I can quote one , and there is no Tesla 3 in any category: https://car-recalls.eu/tuv-report-2023/



Worst 2-3 year old cars

Order	Make/Model	Faults (%)
1	Dacia Logan	11,6
2	Dacia Dokker	10,8
3	Citroën C3 Aircross	9,4
4	VW Sharan	9,4
5	BMW X5/X6	8,8

 

[kiki voinea]

Germans need to step up...

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[kiki voinea]

Advantage of being a McLaren: Nobody cares about panel gaps or paint issues , even if the car is over 250k

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[Jonathan19]

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