718 Boxster/Cayman (982) [Official] Porsche 718 Spyder and the 718 Cayman GT4

[Sunny]

Put up the options or order list. Porsche code perhaps ?

Sure, here you go- PRFEN475.

You might like this too - PR7BVJL4, was my SRS build. Couldn't get PTS. Was tough call, but I am ultimately not a cab guy, so went with 4RS.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

F***in' hell, Sunny. F***in' hell. Congrats, man! Many happy, safe, and fun miles filled with oodles of induction noise!

F***in' hell.....

 

[Gianclaudio]

After 8 long months, my yellow cab arrived earlier this week .

Huge congrats, buddy!! Beautiful car!
Drive and enjoy (safely) the heck out of it

Lovely colour choice, had the great pleasure to build a guitar from the same exact Porsche signal yellow (and another in Miami blue) some time ago.
It's gorgeous IRL, indeed.

Cheers and again, enjoy it safely!

 

[martinbo]

Thanks @martinbo. Ecstatic to be fortunate enough to own one. I still regret selling my 981 GT4. It was the right size and loved the playful handling. But that was let down by the engine/gearing. The 991.2 RS on other hand, had the right drivetrain but was too big and grippy to enjoy on backroads at non anti-social speeds. Hoping the 4RS will be the happy median of both.

On wheel color, yea I struggled with it. I know black would have gone better with the rest of the car. But I am just a sucker for silver BBS wheels.

I remain incredulous that Porsche got the ratios so wrong on the manual 4.0 981/2 models. It’s contrary to the size and playfulness that you so enjoyed. On public roads… well you and I have yabbed on enough about that.

I drove a 991.2 RS around Kyalami for a couple of laps earlier this year. Unfortunately it was in Miami Blue which everyone knows is the slowest colour Porsche makes. These were guided laps behind a pro Porsche instructor from Germany, so we’re going at a fair lick - i.e. what would be highly illegal on your or my country’s roads - and the whole time I’m just a bit frustrated. Wasn’t even scratching the surface of what that thing can do. If you’re someone who revels in exploring a car’s dynamic limits, then I just don’t see any other opportunity to do so in a GT3 RS other than on a circuit.

That’s what has me so enthusiastic about the GT4 RS - the prospect of being able to use more of its playfulness more often. And, as for PDK, absolute no-brainer in anything other than a 911 S/T.

ENJOY!

 

[manuelf]

On wheel color, yea I struggled with it. I know black would have gone better with the rest of the car. But I am just a sucker for silver BBS wheels.

Woah! This is easily 10/10. Incredible cool car and color choice. And I dig the wheel color choice ... black wheels were yesterday. Hiding too much from the crafted spoke design beautiness. You are spot on with this combination! Drive save and have a lot of fun!

 

[LaArtist]

Sure, here you go- PRFEN475.

You might like this too - PR7BVJL4, was my SRS build. Couldn't get PTS. Was tough call, but I am ultimately not a cab guy, so went with 4RS.

Thnx, so let’s break this down.

Killer color
Mag wheels ( what’s the thinking here, huge option. You think it’s worth it ?)
Weissach a must !
Triangle in carbon fiber (first I thought why, then I said ofc )
Porsche logo in silver ( I might have f#cked up and forgot, the black in invisible, wonder if you can install it afterwards?)
Lift a must
Why no chrono?
Smart move with the black pccb, the yellow is off against the signal yellow.
LED headlights a straight deal breaker for me, the car looks daft without them.
Black pull loops ( I might have f#cked up here too, all contact points need to be dark, anyway to change after? )
No Bose ? ( you going light weight I guess , explains the mag wheels)

I’m happy you went for PTS, personally I can’t stand that standard red.

Super spec!

 

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[Sunny]

I remain incredulous that Porsche got the ratios so wrong on the manual 4.0 981/2 models. It’s contrary to the size and playfulness that you so enjoyed. On public roads… well you and I have yabbed on enough about that.

I drove a 991.2 RS around Kyalami for a couple of laps earlier this year. Unfortunately it was in Miami Blue which everyone knows is the slowest colour Porsche makes. These were guided laps behind a pro Porsche instructor from Germany, so we’re going at a fair lick - i.e. what would be highly illegal on your or my country’s roads - and the whole time I’m just a bit frustrated. Wasn’t even scratching the surface of what that thing can do. If you’re someone who revels in exploring a car’s dynamic limits, then I just don’t see any other opportunity to do so in a GT3 RS other than on a circuit.

That’s what has me so enthusiastic about the GT4 RS - the prospect of being able to use more of its playfulness more often. And, as for PDK, absolute no-brainer in anything other than a 911 S/T.

ENJOY!

Yea the 3RS, with each new gen, is becoming more and more of a track only weapon. So glad they did a more playful RS. But even 4RS could do with softer suspension. Interestingly, Porsche apparently did something to the 4RS suspension (the part number for the rear damper changed) to make the rider better on the later build cars. Evo refers to it here - https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayman/gt4/rs -

We've since driven a later-build GT4 RS and the magic we felt when we first drove it appears to have returned. The ferocity and precision of the engine, gearbox and chassis melded with a firm but compliant ride quality that made pretty much any road – and not just newly-surfaced ones – a joy. Porsche hasn't officially confirmed whether the later car had a different suspension setup to the example we drove previously, but it certainly felt measured and fluid in a way that doesn't square with our impressions from eCoty. Put simply, it felt like the car we thought – and hoped – the GT4 RS would be.

 

[LaArtist]

Yea the 3RS, with each new gen, is becoming more and more of a track only weapon. So glad they did a more playful RS. But even 4RS could do with softer suspension. Interestingly, Porsche apparently did something to the 4RS suspension (the part number for the rear damper changed) to make the rider better on the later build cars. Evo refers to it here - https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayman/gt4/rs -

SRS has a softer suspension

 

[Sunny]

Thnx, so let’s break this down.

Killer color
Mag wheels ( what’s the thinking here, huge option. You think it’s worth it ?)
Weissach a must !
Triangle in carbon fiber (first I thought why, then I said ofc )
Porsche logo in silver ( I might have f#cked up and forgot, the black in invisible, wonder if you can install it afterwards?)
Lift a must
Why no chrono?
Smart move with the black pccb, the yellow is off against the signal yellow.
LED headlights a straight deal breaker for me, the car looks daft without them.
Black pull loops ( I might have f#cked up here too, all contact points need to be dark, anyway to change after? )
No Bose ? ( you going light weight I guess , explains the mag wheels)

I’m happy you went for PTS, personally I can’t stand that standard red.

Super spec!

Mag wheels, I will come to this last.

Triangle in carbon - silly, but cheap, so why not.

Lift - I have a bad driveway ramp, and the GT3 which doesn't have lift scrapes the front lip, unless I take half hour to inch up. But I am not that patient.

Chrono - chrono does jack on GT cars, just looks and I hate the cyclops look. I like a clean dash. Just personal preference. It does give you some extra display options like the G meter on the dash screen - but your dealer can code them in even with out chrono.

Black pccb - yea, like you said, standard pccb calipers come in Speed yellow, doesn't match Signal.

LED headlights - same as you, the chrome in the standard one is no go for me.

Black loops - yea you can swap them after. Here is the part number - https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKU9X1GTSTRAPS.html.

Bose - I found this early on, any radio upgrade on GT cars is useless. There is way too much noise to enjoy music. It is frustrating even trying. So why waste money.

Mags - Couple of reasons - I had two builds in mind - PTS or bare bones. If the PTS build was rejected, I would have gone with bare bones. But PTS forces Weissach and at that point you are anyway f#cked. As well go all the way. And I am a sucker for the BBS style.

I am definitely not at driver skill to exploit the weight saving of mags over the standard wheels. But interestingly, my friend has a steel brakes + standard wheel 4RS, I have driven back to back, and I feel mags + pccb definitely rides better on bumpy stuff. Or maybe it is placebo of a lighter wallet .

SRS has a softer suspension

Yea, why I thought of going with the SRS. But ultimately, I am not a cab guy, so would have been fish out of water. Ideally Porsche would let us choose between track/street oriented springs. But you can always swap softer springs/damper setting. There is also DSC. The same friend is getting a SRS too, so I will get to compare.

 

[martinbo]

SRS has a softer suspension

As in Spyder RS, yes, this has been well documented.

 

[Sunny]

As in Spyder RS, yes, this has been well documented.

Yea the Spyder RS has the same spring rates as GT4/Spyder - 45 and 80 n/mm. Which I don't think is ideal either. There is someone on rennlist with SRS complaining of wheel hop on acceleration. OTOH, GT4 RS is 100/140. I think there is a happy median in between.

Spring rates

	F (N/mm)	R (N/mm)
GT4RS	100	140
GT4 RS MR	120	140
GT4	45	80
Spyder RS	45	80
Tarett GT4 Spring Upgrade Kit	80	100

 

[LaArtist]

Mag wheels, I will come to this last.

It all makes sense, thnx for the link and the insight on the spring rates.

 

[martinbo]

Yea the Spyder RS has the same spring rates as GT4/Spyder - 45 and 80 n/mm. Which I don't think is ideal either. There is someone on rennlist with SRS complaining of wheel hop on acceleration. OTOH, GT4 RS is 100/140. I think there is a happy median in between.

Spring rates

	F (N/mm)	R (N/mm)
GT4RS	100	140
GT4 RS MR	120	140
GT4	45	80
Spyder RS	45	80
Tarett GT4 Spring Upgrade Kit	80	100

So interesting, thank you.

Do you have the spring rates differences between the original spec GT4 RS and revised version as spoken of here:

Yea the 3RS, with each new gen, is becoming more and more of a track only weapon. So glad they did a more playful RS. But even 4RS could do with softer suspension. Interestingly, Porsche apparently did something to the 4RS suspension (the part number for the rear damper changed) to make the rider better on the later build cars. Evo refers to it here - https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayman/gt4/rs -

Also, I'd love to know what the spring rates are for Cayman GTS 4.0, if you have time.

 

[Sunny]

So interesting, thank you.

Do you have the spring rates differences between the original spec GT4 RS and revised version as spoken of here:

I don't think they changed the springs, what changed is the rear damper part number -

Possible, they also changed the PASM programming, but nothing official.

Also, I'd love to know what the spring rates are for Cayman GTS 4.0, if you have time.

I haven't been able to find that. But here is bunch of 981 spring rates (981 GTS supposedly had X73 setup). So probably same rate for 718 GTS? 981 GT4 and 718 GT4 have same spring rates (45/80).

 

[martinbo]

Wow! Super stuff - thank you Sunny!

 

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