E-Class (W214) [Official] New Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W214)

[Luca]

@BMW3GT So let's say the winner.,,,..

 

[Leaker]

I read today's AutoBild review on the Audi A6, BMW 5 Series, and E-Class. I'll keep the conclusion briefly, focusing on the BMW 5 Series and the Mercedes E-Class.

All three cars were equipped the same, the Audi missed out on Matrix LED lights though.

The Mercedes provides better acceleration at higher speeds (>130 km/h), slightly higher top speed, consumes the least fuel, exhibits superior braking performance with warm brakes, offers significantly more interior space, has the highest payload, and the smallest turning radius. Additionally, it is quieter inside.

The BMW is faster up to highway speed, on par in terms of infotainment, has better braking performance with cold brakes, can carry the highest roof load, and costs considerably less than the E-Class with the same features.

The E-Class excels in almost all aspects but comes at a significantly higher cost than the new 5 Series, which wins overall due to strong performance in every discipline.

The BMW and Mercedes have similar weights and drive almost identically, making them equal in terms of comfort and dynamics. It's no longer just a 'BMW or Mercedes' choice, according to AutoBild.

Interestingly, the Audi is almost as good as its competitors in everything, except infotainment and autonomous driving.

It is priced 8,000€ less than the BMW and nearly 20,000€ less than the Mercedes.

Guess which car I would choose.

What versions were compared? I guess the comparison is like apple/oranges when you consider the six pot from BMW will come only as plug in hybrid.

 

[BMW3GT]

@BMW3GT So let's say the winner.,,,..

The E-Class excels in almost all aspects but comes at a significantly higher cost than the new 5 Series, which wins overall due to strong performance in every discipline.

The E-Class wins the overall 'attribute rating' (Eigenschaftswertung in german language) 539 points to 531 points for the Mercedes.

Due to significantly higher costs of the E-Class, the winner of the test is the 5-Series. 607 points to 598 points for the 5 series.

 

[BMW3GT]

What versions were compared? I guess the comparison is like apple/oranges when you consider the six pot from BMW will come only as plug in hybrid.

It was the 520d versus the E220d and Audi A6 40 TDI.

All of them are using a 48Volt bord-net, however the Audi misses out on any sort of 'boost-function'

 

[Mick Briesgau]

It was the 520d versus the E220d and Audi A6 40 TDI.

All of them are using a 48Volt bord-net, however the Audi misses out on any sort of 'boost-function'

Seems the Audi is the more sensible choice, given the financial aspect if one had to buy one.

Anecdotal: as it happens, I saw a A6 in white this morning (stuck with the top Matrix lights option). Still has a solid design and a nice stance in traffic.

 

[BMW3GT]

Seems the Audi is the more sensible choice, given the financial aspect if one had to buy one.

Anecdotal: as it happens, I saw a A6 in white this morning (stuck with the top Matrix lights option). Still has a solid design and a nice stance in traffic.

I wouldn't think twice about it, considering that the A6 is on par in every aspect with the new 5-series and E-Class.

For the price of the Mercedes, you can stick to a 3 Liter V6 in the Audi.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

As per usual, if money is a factor, going for the older/EOL product is the better choice.

Money not being a factor I'd probably have the E-class. But then I wouldn't get an E220d, but the E450 4-matic.

Mercedes needs to sort out their pricing structure though.

 

[Leaker]

The all black version looks quite cool

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[Mr. Mercedes]

I read today's AutoBild review on the Audi A6, BMW 5 Series, and E-Class. I'll keep the conclusion briefly, focusing on the BMW 5 Series and the Mercedes E-Class.

All three cars were equipped the same, the Audi missed out on Matrix LED lights though.

The Mercedes provides better acceleration at higher speeds (>130 km/h), slightly higher top speed, consumes the least fuel, exhibits superior braking performance with warm brakes, offers significantly more interior space, has the highest payload, and the smallest turning radius. Additionally, it is quieter inside.

The BMW is faster up to highway speed, on par in terms of infotainment, has better braking performance with cold brakes, can carry the highest roof load, and costs considerably less than the E-Class with the same features.

The E-Class excels in almost all aspects but comes at a significantly higher cost than the new 5 Series, which wins overall due to strong performance in every discipline.

The BMW and Mercedes have similar weights and drive almost identically, making them equal in terms of comfort and dynamics. It's no longer just a 'BMW or Mercedes' choice, according to AutoBild.

Interestingly, the Audi is almost as good as its competitors in everything, except infotainment and autonomous driving.

It is priced 8,000€ less than the BMW and nearly 20,000€ less than the Mercedes.

Guess which car I would choose.

That's a massive price gap!

 

[Mick Briesgau]

I’ve checked the prices. If you are comparing the base price for an Audi A6 40 TDI Quattro and the Mercedes E 220d 4Matic these are the numbers: € 58.850 vs € 67.000. A € 8.150 price gap. If you take into account that the E comes standard with metallic paint, the gap is circa € 7.000. Still a lot of money, but by no means € 20.000.
My guess is AutoBild compared a very well equipped E class with all the expensive modern goodies with an Audi A6, which always has been cheaper. Apples and oranges…

 

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[Rolf]

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Excellent comparison and as expected these 2 cars are so close and well matched. The material quality difference he mentioned with the door lower materials and also the door shutting sound been better in the Mercedes is interesting. BMW seat comfort and rear seat space is better. Both cars seem to have the perfect balance with sporty driving and comfort.

 

[leylandi]

E class

 

[PsychDoc]

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That €20k price delta doesn't seem even remotely realistic. These cars are direct competitors and have been for many years.

Comparably equipped, these cars are typically priced within 2%-3% of one another. At least in America.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

E 220d € 64.320 vs 520d € 59.750.
So if the mentioned € 20.000 are correct, the E has for circa € 15.500 more on additional extras. One of them being the air suspension that comes obligatory with rear wheel steering, costs € 3.320. The super screen costs € 1.773. Two mentioned which the 5er doesn’t have on offer. Furthermore it has nappa leather that comes with the leather package, another € 3.320. The 5er is, if I heard correctly, equipped with the standard vegan stuff.

That alone makes the E € 8.320 more expensive.

 

[Matski]

So if the mentioned € 20.000 are correct, the E has for circa € 15.500 more on additional extras.

Imagine needing €15,000 of extras to beat the 5 series, on it's 'compromised' platform, by 8 points.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Imagine needing €15,000 of extras to beat the 5 series, on it's 'compromised' platform, by 8 points.

The only comparison with a meaningful outcome would be if both cars have the same specifications.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Imagine needing €15,000 of extras to beat the 5 series, on it's 'compromised' platform, by 8 points.

What makes you think its "necessary" to "beat" the 5 series?
Its more expensive. but it comes with things the 5 series doesn't have - isn't that what's supposed to happen?

I mean why pay as much for either the 5er or E class, if you can buy a Lexus ES instead? But then why pay for an ES, when you could get an Accord or a Camry?

 

[PsychDoc]

What makes you think its "necessary" to "beat" the 5 series?
Its more expensive. but it comes with things the 5 series doesn't have - isn't that what's supposed to happen?

I mean why pay as much for either the 5er or E class, if you can buy a Lexus ES instead? But then why pay for an ES, when you could get an Accord or a Camry?

In fairness the 5 and the E have been direct competitors for decades. And to compete they've had to pretty much mirror the others' pricing structure to compete effectively.

I continue to believe that when all is said and done these cars will be similarly priced for the same (or equivalent) equipment packages. If one were to be priced more than 5% over the other it would likely crush sales. It's not just about profits, it's about market share.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

In fairness the 5 and the E have been direct competitors for decades. And to compete they've had to pretty much mirror the others' pricing structure to compete effectively.

I continue to believe that when all is said and done these cars will be similarly priced for the same (or equivalent) equipment packages. If one were to be priced more than 5% over the other it would likely crush sales. It's not just about profits, it's about market share.

Sure, but in this case, the 520d doesn't have the option for air suspension, or the full disco lights amongst other things, which the base E220d can.

The cars compared are the same tier I guess, but they're not really similarly equipped. Strip out all of the fancy options, and you'd probably have a more apples-to-apples comparison.

Its honestly a bit unfair for both cars.