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A4/S4/RS4 [Official] New Audi A4 Official Thread
The Audi A4 is a line of luxury compact executive cars produced by Audi. Production: 1994-2025. Predecessor: Audi 80. Successor: Audi A5 (B10).
EnI
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This makes me wonder what will happen with S4 & S5. Will they get an upgraded V8 engine, or just beefed-up this upcoming turbo engine?
Because having eg approx 310HP 3.? TFSI, and 354HP S4 / S5 doesn't make any sense. That makes S4 /S5 redundant.
I guess next S4 & upgraded S5 will get approx. 380HP, while RS4 / RS5 are coming with 450+HP.
Also: what happened with 3.2 FSI Valvelift with 300HP - the engine presented in Roadjet Concept.
This makes me wonder what will happen with S4 & S5. Will they get an upgraded V8 engine, or just beefed-up this upcoming turbo engine?
Because having eg approx 310HP 3.? TFSI, and 354HP S4 / S5 doesn't make any sense. That makes S4 /S5 redundant.
I guess next S4 & upgraded S5 will get approx. 380HP, while RS4 / RS5 are coming with 450+HP.
Also: what happened with 3.2 FSI Valvelift with 300HP - the engine presented in Roadjet Concept.
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My opinion on the new A4:
AIght, I've been looking on this baby for some hours now, and here is my opinion.
* The front:
Well, I like it. It's not a WOW-factor but I like it. I just wish it was a little more "curvy" as the R8. But I still like it. About the LEDs in the front, I like the ones that are in the A5/S5 more, cause they feel more "wow". Otherwise, I like the front, but I think it will blow us away when the S4 and then the RS4 will be prestented. It has a lot of capacity!
* The rear:
I have to say that the B7 rear was one of the sexiest rears on the market right now, and to top that one was a hard task for Audi. But they have succeded so well! I think that the rear is the A4 most strong side. I really love everything about it. Just imagine a widen RS4 from begind...oh gosh!
* The side:
Well, looking at it, you sure see that it's competing with BMW, MB and Lexus, cause its similar line of todays saloons that you see. I'm just so happy that Audi's most important car is finally updated.
* The interior:
Really, as usual, it's just so perfect. I would feel very much like home in there.
I'm fully satisfied with what I see. Now let's hope it handles as well as Audis latest models!
My opinion on the new A4:
AIght, I've been looking on this baby for some hours now, and here is my opinion.
* The front:
Well, I like it. It's not a WOW-factor but I like it. I just wish it was a little more "curvy" as the R8. But I still like it. About the LEDs in the front, I like the ones that are in the A5/S5 more, cause they feel more "wow". Otherwise, I like the front, but I think it will blow us away when the S4 and then the RS4 will be prestented. It has a lot of capacity!
* The rear:
I have to say that the B7 rear was one of the sexiest rears on the market right now, and to top that one was a hard task for Audi. But they have succeded so well! I think that the rear is the A4 most strong side. I really love everything about it. Just imagine a widen RS4 from begind...oh gosh!
* The side:
Well, looking at it, you sure see that it's competing with BMW, MB and Lexus, cause its similar line of todays saloons that you see. I'm just so happy that Audi's most important car is finally updated.
* The interior:
Really, as usual, it's just so perfect. I would feel very much like home in there.
I'm fully satisfied with what I see. Now let's hope it handles as well as Audis latest models!
Tumbo
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I think that will come with the S4.
Remember how bald the A4 B6 looked at first?
And then boom!:
So just wait a while. The new B8 has really a lot of potential!
I think that will come with the S4.
Remember how bald the A4 B6 looked at first?
And then boom!:
So just wait a while. The new B8 has really a lot of potential!
Osnabrueck
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* The front:
Nice light detail and a good companion to the A3 and A5. On the downside, this look doesn't feel new - but it does look sharp.
* The rear:
A big improvment on the revisionist-history B7 facelift. I like this aspect of the car much more than I thought I would, and these "roundrangle" lights look much more at home on the A4 as they do on the A5.
* The side:
The side of this car is presented in "hi def" thanks to the body line and the nice crease that runs up the car's rocker panel. I really like that - it's a foil to the chunky surfaces of the 3er and C-Klasse. Unfortunately, there's something about the C-pillar and rear quarter window that looks tremendously old to me. The shape seems neither here nor there, and could have very well been pulled off an old A6. It's the weakest spot in the design. One big plus though is the front overhang - It's been expertly minimized and makes the whole profile work far better than the B7.
* The interior:
A bit untidy, but gorgeous nonetheless. Strap me in!
Verdict: B
Audi has crafted a beautiful car with plenty of details to entertain discerning observers. The overhangs have been brought under control, and you feel as though this car is one congealed thought from front to back. Unfortunately - as is the case with the new TT - the overall impression is one of a familiar design, detailed, polished and re-worked to perfection, rather than something fresh and exciting.
I like this car, and it could be a serious purchase candidate a year or two down the road. I just wish that Audi had the cajones or wherewithal to make a leap of faith into uncharted waters instead of making incremental revisions to their design cannon every 6 months. I also don't like that much of this car's appeal comes at a cost to the A5's individuality and sex appeal. Just weeks ago, the A5 was something in the Audi range with unique caché - now it's just an A4 coupe with some nice curves.
* The front:
Nice light detail and a good companion to the A3 and A5. On the downside, this look doesn't feel new - but it does look sharp.
* The rear:
A big improvment on the revisionist-history B7 facelift. I like this aspect of the car much more than I thought I would, and these "roundrangle" lights look much more at home on the A4 as they do on the A5.
* The side:
The side of this car is presented in "hi def" thanks to the body line and the nice crease that runs up the car's rocker panel. I really like that - it's a foil to the chunky surfaces of the 3er and C-Klasse. Unfortunately, there's something about the C-pillar and rear quarter window that looks tremendously old to me. The shape seems neither here nor there, and could have very well been pulled off an old A6. It's the weakest spot in the design. One big plus though is the front overhang - It's been expertly minimized and makes the whole profile work far better than the B7.
* The interior:
A bit untidy, but gorgeous nonetheless. Strap me in!
Verdict: B
Audi has crafted a beautiful car with plenty of details to entertain discerning observers. The overhangs have been brought under control, and you feel as though this car is one congealed thought from front to back. Unfortunately - as is the case with the new TT - the overall impression is one of a familiar design, detailed, polished and re-worked to perfection, rather than something fresh and exciting.
I like this car, and it could be a serious purchase candidate a year or two down the road. I just wish that Audi had the cajones or wherewithal to make a leap of faith into uncharted waters instead of making incremental revisions to their design cannon every 6 months. I also don't like that much of this car's appeal comes at a cost to the A5's individuality and sex appeal. Just weeks ago, the A5 was something in the Audi range with unique caché - now it's just an A4 coupe with some nice curves.
EnI
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Yes, but S4 is a special model. With a quite higher price tag. Don't you think 44HP is a bit insufficient to justify the price difference?
Still I havn't got the answer: what happened to the 300HP 3.2 FSI Valvelift engine from Roadjet concept?
Hm ... So many different 300+HP engines. 3.2 FSI Valvelift with 300HP, 4.2 FSI V8 with 354HP, 3.2 / 3.6 TFSI with 300+HP, 2.5 TFSI with 350HP. Not to mention 3.6 VW engine with 300HP as well.
Isn't that a bit excessive & redundant? And costly!
3.2 TFSI ->310 hp
4.2 FSI -> 354 hp
So the V8 engine still has 44 more hp.
The problems that 2.5 TFSI (TTS) will have 350 hp , i wonder if that engine will be used in A4/A5.
Yes, but S4 is a special model. With a quite higher price tag. Don't you think 44HP is a bit insufficient to justify the price difference?
Still I havn't got the answer: what happened to the 300HP 3.2 FSI Valvelift engine from Roadjet concept?
Hm ... So many different 300+HP engines. 3.2 FSI Valvelift with 300HP, 4.2 FSI V8 with 354HP, 3.2 / 3.6 TFSI with 300+HP, 2.5 TFSI with 350HP. Not to mention 3.6 VW engine with 300HP as well.
Isn't that a bit excessive & redundant? And costly!
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The 3.2 Valvelift was probably cancelled i persume.
As for expenses , don't worry , VW and Porsche have pleanty of money.
Hm ... So many different 300+HP engines. 3.2 FSI Valvelift with 300HP, 4.2 FSI V8 with 354HP, 3.2 / 3.6 TFSI with 300+HP, 2.5 TFSI with 350HP. Not to mention 3.6 VW engine with 300HP as well.
Isn't that a bit excessive & redundant? And costly!
The 3.2 Valvelift was probably cancelled i persume.
As for expenses , don't worry , VW and Porsche have pleanty of money.
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I've never seen a B6 looking like the blue car you posted. What is that, some SE version?I think that will come with the S4.
Remember how bald the A4 B6 looked at first?
And then boom!:
So just wait a while. The new B8 has really a lot of potential!
EnI
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No. The engine sits in B8 engine bay, 3.2 FSI Valvelift with 330Nm. Yet with only 265HP, and not 300HP like in Roadjet concept.
Meaning: this engine is capable of 300HP (or even more) yet Audi decided to offer it in de-tuned variant.
Why? Will they offer 300HP version later?
I doubt they developed engine capable of 300+HP but not offering it with this output.
Is it possible 3.2 TFSI will be installed in a new S4 instead of V8?
The 3.2 Valvelift was probably cancelled i persume.
No. The engine sits in B8 engine bay, 3.2 FSI Valvelift with 330Nm. Yet with only 265HP, and not 300HP like in Roadjet concept.
Meaning: this engine is capable of 300HP (or even more) yet Audi decided to offer it in de-tuned variant.
Why? Will they offer 300HP version later?
I doubt they developed engine capable of 300+HP but not offering it with this output.
Is it possible 3.2 TFSI will be installed in a new S4 instead of V8?
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Snatched this info from Road and Track!
A new feature on the A4 is the "drive select" option that remaps accelerator pedal response, automatic transmission shift points, power steering boost, steering ratio and the stiffness of the electronically controlled shocks. The three settings provide for comfort, automatic or dynamic modes, while a fourth selection called "individual" allows the driver to program up to 24 different parameters through the MMI system.
Looks like the A4 might be quit the drivers car....
Snatched this info from Road and Track!
A new feature on the A4 is the "drive select" option that remaps accelerator pedal response, automatic transmission shift points, power steering boost, steering ratio and the stiffness of the electronically controlled shocks. The three settings provide for comfort, automatic or dynamic modes, while a fourth selection called "individual" allows the driver to program up to 24 different parameters through the MMI system.
Looks like the A4 might be quit the drivers car....
EnI
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Nice touch.
Eg. BMW offers same "individual performance settings" feature in some M cars only (via MDrive feature).
While some other models have presets only (eg. 7er, X5, Z4 via Sport button etc). And not for all systems (steering, throttle, dampers etc) in most cases.
In some cases BMW are such penny pinchers - offering some goodies in M cars only (eg. this individual settings, LSD, etc).
Good for Audi customers.
Audi's slogan is "Vorsprung durch Technik" after all. They are almost obligated to offer some features, tech, solutions the competition do not offer (or is offered only in top-end models).
Snatched this info from Road and Track!
A new feature on the A4 is the "drive select" option that remaps accelerator pedal response, automatic transmission shift points, power steering boost, steering ratio and the stiffness of the electronically controlled shocks. The three settings provide for comfort, automatic or dynamic modes, while a fourth selection called "individual" allows the driver to program up to 24 different parameters through the MMI system.
Looks like the A4 might be quit the drivers car....
Nice touch.
Eg. BMW offers same "individual performance settings" feature in some M cars only (via MDrive feature).
While some other models have presets only (eg. 7er, X5, Z4 via Sport button etc). And not for all systems (steering, throttle, dampers etc) in most cases.
In some cases BMW are such penny pinchers - offering some goodies in M cars only (eg. this individual settings, LSD, etc).
Good for Audi customers.
Audi's slogan is "Vorsprung durch Technik" after all. They are almost obligated to offer some features, tech, solutions the competition do not offer (or is offered only in top-end models).
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I can see enthusiast such as are selves loving such options, but the majority of owners could probably careless!
Nice touch.
Eg. BMW offers same "individual performance settings" feature in some M cars only (via MDrive feature).
While some other models have presets only (eg. 7er, X5, Z4 via Sport button etc). And not for all systems (steering, throttle, dampers etc) in most cases.
In some cases BMW are such penny pinchers - offering some goodies in M cars only (eg. this individual settings, LSD, etc).
Good for Audi customers.
Audi's slogan is "Vorsprung durch Technik" after all. They are almost obligated to offer some features, tech, solutions the competition do not offer (or is offered only in top-end models).
I can see enthusiast such as are selves loving such options, but the majority of owners could probably careless!
PanterroR
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Translate please! Dude, you sound like you're coming from Albania!!!
I can see enthusiast such as are selves loving such options, but the bulk general public could probably careless!
Translate please! Dude, you sound like you're coming from Albania!!!
bum-man
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That just shows how very different the two are. I'm lovin' it!
Just to compare fronts A4 vs A5
That just shows how very different the two are. I'm lovin' it!
MusDaLooSe
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dang thats one hot looking Car.. love what audi is doing.. i cant wait to see the next Gen A8
dang thats one hot looking Car.. love what audi is doing.. i cant wait to see the next Gen A8
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Audi AG is a German automotive manufacturer of luxury vehicles
headquartered in Ingolstadt, Bavaria, Germany. A subsidiary of the
Volkswagen Group, the company’s origins date back to the early 20th
century and the initial enterprises (Horch and the Audiwerke) founded
by engineer August Horch (1868–1951). Two other manufacturers (DKW
and Wanderer) also contributed to the foundation of Auto Union in 1932.
The modern Audi era began in the 1960s, when Volkswagen acquired Auto
Union from Daimler-Benz, and merged it with NSU Motorenwerke in 1969.
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