S-Class (W223) [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223)

[Kukobana]

that has nothing to do with savings, that have everything to do with inaccuracy

p.s. the W210 is a great car, except the rust, the w210 are making 1 mio km without any problems. I had 2 of them as a 4matic (as my winterwagen, so my s class-es could go for winter sleep) everything works, no problems, the last oldschool Mercedes (with one arm wiper, classical Mercedes instruments etc.)

Rust ... And I wrote about it, among other things. Why rust? Because there were savings on material and anti-rust protection.

 

[Kukobana]

Now Ola also saves.
Have you heard that they will fire specialist engineers?
They save on everything.
And why do they remove any equipment from individual models every six months?
In Zetsche's time, they added some new equipment. Since Ola appeared, I read information that every six months something from the equipment is only removed.
The question is how they save on equipment that is not visible. For me it is very disturbing what Ola is doing.

 

[fortuner]

Now Ola also saves.
Have you heard that they will fire specialist engineers?
They save on everything.
And why do they remove any equipment from individual models every six months?
In Zetsche's time, they added some new equipment. Since Ola appeared, I read information that every six months something from the equipment is only removed.
The question is how they save on equipment that is not visible. For me it is very disturbing what Ola is doing.

I am not denying or arguing with your statements but Ola is only about q year of not less I doubt in this short time the things can change so much play S class development probably started minimum 3 to 4 years ago so I doubt that the S class will be part of Ola changes...Just the way i see things.

 

[Serpens]

I am not denying or arguing with your statements but Ola is only about q year of not less I doubt in this short time the things can change so much play S class development probably started minimum 3 to 4 years ago so I doubt that the S class will be part of Ola changes...Just the way i see things.

You're entirely right. It's a bit early for this doom and gloom narrative on Ola. He has the unlucky task of seeing Daimler through this transition to EV. He also seems to be pragmatic almost to a fault and unafraid of speaking about hard decisions that have to be made. There will be downsides to this process no doubt but the brand still has a reputation to uphold. This is arguably the most fragile transition since Daimler's early days in my opinion...

 

[Dawid21]

I have already seen it in several copies.

 

[fortuner]

I have already seen it in several copies.

A question here once this is checked by quality control and they see its misaligned can it not be fixed by making a adjustment or is it too late ??

 

[Serpens]

A question here once this is checked by quality control and they see its misaligned can it not be fixed by making a adjustment or is it too late ??

Trunk alignment is actually one of the easier ones to fix at the dealer. Most don't bother though.

Quite honestly, the W222's trunk could've been just as off as these on a normal basis but it's harder to see because there's no trim piece running the width of the car, just a bumper seam. MB has got to get this under control though. Unacceptable for this to continue.

 

[Serpens]

I take my previous post back regarding the previous generation, actually. They regularly nailed the S-class coupe's fit of the trunklid.

 

[DjordjeC63]

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Trunk alignment is actually one of the easier ones to fix at the dealer. Most don't bother though.

Quite honestly, the W222's trunk could've been just as off as these on a normal basis but it's harder to see because there's no trim piece running the width of the car, just a bumper seam. MB has got to get this under control though. Unacceptable for this to continue.

The rest of the panel gaps seem to be tighter than the W222 from images.

 

[leylandi]

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[Wolfgang]

BETTER VIEW OF THE REAR-AXLE STEERING OF THE S-CLASS

With the new S-Class, Mercedes-Benz is offering rear-axle steering for the first time, which is basically available in two different versions: with 4.5 degrees and with up to 10 degrees steering wheel adjustment. The variant is available for both the S-Class long and short versions, as well as in the new Maybach model.

Rear axle steering with a steering angle of up to 10 degrees

With the rear-axle steering with a steering angle of up to 10 degrees, Mercedes-Benz demonstrates its claim to leadership - even when parking. The vehicle looks almost as handy as a compact car when maneuvering. At higher speeds, you use the sovereignty of the long wheelbase.

At speeds of less than 60 km/h, the rear wheels steer in the opposite direction to the front wheels - when parking by up to 10° against the front axle angle. Depending on the situation, the wheelbase is virtually shortened, making the vehicle more manoeuvrable, nimble and agile. You can also feel it when turning, changing direction quickly and maneuvering.

Steering from 60 km/h in the same direction

From a speed of more than 60 km/h, the rear wheels steer up to 3° in the same direction as the front wheels. The resulting virtual longer wheelbase offers noticeable advantages: increased driving stability and driving safety at high speeds, quick lane changes or sudden evasive maneuvers.

In addition, significantly less steering angle has to be applied during dynamic maneuvers, such as when driving on a country road - and the vehicle reacts more sportily to steering commands. This function is implemented via the integrated driving dynamics control of the ESP.

The components of the system:

• four speed-dependent steering strategies:
  • Parking with a strong turning circle reduction (up to 10° steering angle opposite to the front axle) by almost two meters
  • City maneuverability (up to 4.5° steering angle opposite to the front axle), active up to approx. 60 km/h
  • High speed stabilization (up to 2.5° steering angle in the same direction as the front axle)
  • Driving dynamics increase (up to 3° steering angle in the same direction or opposite to the front axle, depending on the driving situation), active from approx. 60 km/h, controlled by the integrated driving dynamics control of the ESP.
• Snow chain mode for the adapted control of the rear axle steering in wintry conditions with a maximum steering angle of the rear axle of 4.5°
• The rear axle steering is presented in the central display
  • Representation of the current rear axle steering angle
  • Display of the current lane circle when parking
• Steering ability of the rear axle via an electromechanical central actuator with trapezoidal thread

In the future, Mercedes-Benz will also offer rear-axle steering in other model series - also below the luxury class, but with different designs and steering angles. More about this with us in a few weeks.

https:///2020/12/besserer-blick-auf-die-hinterachslenkung-der-neuen-s-klasse/

 

[Luca]

@Wolfang
what a beautiful car

 

[hannaz]

Rate the new commercial for S-Class

 

[burana800]

Rate the new commercial for S-Class

I'm a simple man. I see Roger Federer, I like.

 

[LaArtist]

Rate the new commercial for S-Class

Class the fact that they included a Saab.

 

[Merc1]

Where the hell is the S63?

M

 

[Evgeny]

Где, черт возьми, S63?

М

 

[martinbo]

Rate the new commercial for S-Class

It's a lovely ad. They really did leverage 3 exceptional and admirable people to great effect.

 

[kiki voinea]

Where the hell is the S63?

M

The fact that this car had so many delays , and yet so many flaws, with the 7er knocking on the door soon , it's kind of worrying....