S-Class (W222/C217/A217) [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W222)

[Emex]

The 2015 IAA in Frankfurt closed its doors now. A new record was set with 950,000 visitors. Frederic Schlosser Photography took this pic of a Mercedes-Benz S 500 e for us.

fuenfkommasechs.de

Love that photo, it looks so dignified.

 

[Wolfgang]

The 9G becomes available to order today in eight more S-Class models, besides the Mercedes-Maybach S500/550 and S 500/550 4MATIC, incl the S350d, S350d 4MATIC, S500/550 and S500/S550 4MATIC, both in standard and long wheel base versions.

 

[Merc1]

I wonder when the U.S. will see these changes?


M

 

[Wolfgang]

^ Perhaps with the alleged Mercedes-Maybach S500 in the next model year?

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

W

^ Perhaps with the alleged Mercedes-Maybach S500 in the next model year?

Wolf, do you know the performance, economy and price changes?

 

[Wolfgang]

The acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h is slightly faster in the S 350 d with 9G now, 6.5 seconds instead of 6.8 seconds previously according to MB specs. While the fuel economy improved further, from 7.0 l/100 km to 6.4 l/100 km in town, from 4.7 to 4.6 l/100 on the highway, and from 5.5 to 5.3 liters/100 km combined. CO2 emissions dropped from 146 to 139 g with the 9G. A number of options changed, like the car telephony etc etc, so it's not clear how much of the price change is due to different standard options. Most of the time there's a small base price adjustment when new lists are issued.

The new list, albeit in German, is available to download (pdf) here:

http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content...#_int_passengercars:home:model-navi:pricelist

 

[DexterMorgan]

Here are last month's sales #s for this class in the US. The W222 is absolutely owning the market right now.

 

[LaArtist]

The new 7er hasent started selling in the US, its over for the S Class when it goes on sale.

- BMW FANs

 

[Merc1]

Mercedes clearly has a problem with the CLS, not sure exactly what the issue is. Those numbers are WAY off from last year and this year is the facelift!

Clearly me seeing new CLS400s regularly means nothing per those numbers. Tennmb might be able to shed some light on the issue with the CLS' sales.

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[ThroughandThrough]

For every CLS I see a Ghost.

It's quite strange.

Perhaps people are waiting for the new bodystyle.

 

[sl123]

@ LaArtist / BMWFans: I drove the new 7 series yesterday and I have to say that it is a great car.
From the point of driving.
Now I am going to order a new W222. Why? Because it is the S-class, the epitome of a luxury car.

Best
sl123

 

[Amat46]

^^me reading that

 

[SKY]

We should compare these CLS sales with the first one.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I don't think a new 7-er is really going to significantly improve BMW's sales in this segment. After all, there are only so many buyers for cars in the $ 100K-$ 150K market. I live in DC and the S-class is the status-quo for upper-end neighborhoods in both MD and VA. Furthermore, the diplomats in DC all deploy either S-class or Suburbans as their choice of vehicle. I've rarely seen a BMW with diplomat tags on it in our town.

Not only is the status-quo hard to overcome for BMW, but the fact that they don't offer the variety that MB does in this price range. You've got the standard S550/S600 sedans, the coupes, the AMG's (BMW has no M-version of the 7), the Maybach and soon the convertible. The breadth of the S-class line up is simply staggering.

 

[klier]

^ Just for fun, anyone here has the sales data of the 7er vs S in the U.S for the last 10 years or so?
Or should we continue this in the sales data threads?

I don't think a new 7-er is really going to significantly improve BMW's sales in this segment.

I think it will. Might indeed not touch the S class sales, but it will sell 10 times better than the last September 2015 sales you posted. So second after the S class.

 

[far2000]

Year
Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class
U.S. Sales
2005
14,835
2006
10,763
2007
7906
2008
5775
2009
2527
2010
2135
2011
5665
2012
8065
2013
8032
2014
6981
2015 YTD *
4616
Source: Automakers & ANDC

 

[sako97]

From goodcarbadcar.net (2010-2015):

 

[far2000]

The CLS really has fallen, i think also because of the amount of competition. when it came out it was a 1 model catalogue....

 

[far2000]

Year
BMW 7-Series
U.S. Sales
BMW 7-Series
Canadian Sales
2002
22,006
n/a
2003
20,473
n/a
2004
16,155
605
2005
18,165
645
2006
17,796
542
2007
14,773
467
2008
12,276
424
2009
9254
638
2010
12,253
741
2011
11,299
532
2012
11,098
755
2013
10,932
373
2014
9744
374
2015 YTD *
6363


Year
Mercedes-Benz
S-Class
U.S. Sales
Mercedes-Benz
S-Class/CL-Class
Canadian Sales
2002
21,118
n/a
2003
22,940
n/a
2004
20,460
785
2005
16,036
455
2006
30,886
1205
2007
26,081
1320
2008
17,787
1026
2009
11,199
748
2010
13,608
763
2011
12,258
744
2012
11,794
715
2013
13,303
468
2014
25,276
1094
2015 YTD *
15,994
698

 

[klier]

It's pretty obvious the last couple of months of 7er sales don't represent the average at all @DexterMorgan

Still, the S class will keep it's advantage in the U.S. Margins are tighter in the EU though, I believe.