5 Series (F10) [Official] BMW F10 5 Series

[Bartek S.]

5-er is going pimp?

 

[PanterroR]

Yep, very ugly rims, that's rather embarassing for them...

Luckily, they don't come as standard...

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Yes, the 5-spoke rim look pretty bad, but the multi-spokes are quite nice IMO. When they presented the F11 530d Tasman green metallic, it had those multi-spoke rims and it looked wonderful.

BTW, what was the starting price for the 535i in the States?

 

[sfbayfan]

Yes, the 5-spoke rim look pretty bad, but the multi-spokes are quite nice IMO. When they presented the F11 530d Tasman green metallic, it had those multi-spoke rims and it looked wonderful.

BTW, what was the starting price for the 535i in the States?

$49,600. base MSRP

 

[bmw 745d]

Some pics of the 5 Series in 1/18 from Norev.

 

[RikfromBelgium]

I could definitely see the smurphes B-lining for this

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Spy Shots: 2012 BMW ActiveHybrid 5-Series

Plugging an existing hybrid system into an existing car isn't quite as easy as plugging into an outlet, but the team at BMW is making it look that way, with the recently-unveiled BMW ActiveHybrid 5 already moving from concept car to testing prototype. As these spy photos show, the car is not significantly different from its conventionally-powered brethren.

Based on the same underpinnings as the new 2011 5-Series, the ActiveHybrid 5 is expected to make its retail debut sometime next year. The hybrid system under the hood pairs a twin-turbocharged six-cylinder (the previous-gen N54 by the sound of it) mated to a 54-horsepower electric motor that runs on the juice from a lithium-ion battery pack. The motor and engine are connected to each other by a dedicated clutch mechanism, allowing either to power the car, both in series and separately.

Up to 10 percent fuel economy gains are expected, putting the system more in the mild-hybrid than full-hybrid category, though electric-only driving and stop-start technology are part of the bargain. As usual, expect the full slate of BMW's EfficientDynamics roster to be chucked at the car, including accessories (such as climate control) to run off the battery pack rather than engine accessory pulleys.

Regenerative charging, smart navigation software that takes topography into account when deciding how much hybrid juice to supply, and all the features and comfort of the standard 5-Series are going to make for a competitive hybrid package, particularly since there are few rivals outside of Lexus in this size and market segment.

- Spy Shots: 2012 BMW ActiveHybrid 5-Series - MotorAuthority

 

[chonkoa]

Lucky americans, are they actually making money with such prices ?

They are making money or else they won't be selling at that price.

 

[K-A]

Anyone know the percentage of high-strength steels used in this car? I.e, Mercedes made it very known that the new E-Class has 70something% (highest of any car if I'm not mistaken). Seems M-B made it much more known as to the Safety aspects of the car, as I haven't seen any on the F10?

 

[Ultimate Car Guy]

Anyone know the percentage of high-strength steels used in this car? I.e, Mercedes made it very known that the new E-Class has 70something% (highest of any car if I'm not mistaken). Seems M-B made it much more known as to the Safety aspects of the car, as I haven't seen any on the F10?

I don' think it really matters to be honest. Best thing is to look at structural rigidity. The E60 has approximately 24,000nm. The F10 has a 55% improvement over the E60, so we're expecting it to be 37,200nm. The E-Klasse i read somewhere has around 30,000nm.

 

[K-A]

Wow! 55% is incredibly impressive. I thought the 212's 30% improvement over the 211 was great.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I don' think it really matters to be honest. Best thing is to look at structural rigidity. The E60 has approximately 24,000nm. The F10 has a 55% improvement over the E60, so we're expecting it to be 37,200nm. The E-Klasse i read somewhere has around 30,000nm.

It would be interesting to get official figures of both.

 

[bmer]

It would be interesting to get official figures of both.

Couldn't find official figures but here's something about the new steel structure used on the F10 5er:

• BMW produces lighter, stronger parts
  
  
  Gerhard Mauerer
  Automotive News
  July 13, 2009 - 12:26 pm ET
  
  
  DINGOLFING -- In the midst of the financial crisis, BMW is spending 50 million euros ($69.7 million) on an innovative press hardening facility at its Dingolfing plant.
  
  In all, the premium automaker plans to invest several hundred million euros in the plant in 2009 and 2010."Anyone who saves money in the wrong area in tough times is putting his competitiveness at risk over the long-term," said Frank-Peter Arndt, BMW's production chief. "And I doubt that you can survive that way in the long run."
  
  During "cutthroat competition," innovative technologies are more important than ever, he said.
  BMW will make high strength body parts such as chassis beams and side skirts with the new press hardening process.
  
  Saving pounds
  It will be the first use of press hardening technology in the auto industry anywhere in the world, BMW said. It makes it possible to construct high-strength components at lower weights.
  The new process cuts vehicle weight by almost 51 pounds. This in turn shrinks fuel consumption by up to 0.1 liter per 100 kilometers driven, or just under half a cup of gasoline for every 62 miles.
  
  The new facility thus contributes to BMW's "efficient dynamics" program, an effort to improve vehicle performance along a range of fronts.
  
  The 5 Series Gran Turismo will be the first model using these components. Over the next three years, eight more new BMW models will incorporate components from the facility.
  The Dingolfing press facility will supply BMW's factory network worldwide.
  
  Hot to cold
  In the new press process, galvanized sheet steel is pressed cold before being heated to 1,670 degrees Fahrenheit. Then, still glowing red, it is placed in the new press equipment, which cools it down to 158 degrees Fahrenheit, hardening it in the process.
  
  Despite lower weight, its strength is three to four times as great as untreated sheet steel.
  The use of galvanized sheet steel also guarantees a high level of rust protection.
  The process was developed with the steel technology company Voestalpine Polynorm.
  BMW is putting a second press hardening facility into operation in late 2009.
  At that point, up to 100 workers will work at both facilities in a three-shift operation.

EnI also talked about the F10 compared to the E60:

That molded steel+alu frame was doomed from the beginning. It brought some weight savings, but the structural rigidity was questionable eg. especially after hit. After being crashed the car's frame was very difficult & extremely costly to repair.

There will be more alu, composite plastics, magnesium etc parts used in F10 (incl. chassis & body), while the body frame is steel only.

BUT ... some special techniques are used by processing the steel - a multi phase steel (tubes are made of thinner steel layers reinforced with some other composites - making them lighter yet stronger than classic steel tubes) so the weight is quite reduced compared to a classic steel frame. E70 , E71, F01 are also using such steel body frame. In the end the F10 body frame is approx. as heavy as E60 body frame. Yet much more rigid (better torsional stiffness; safer at collisions).

In the end reinforced thin steel tube is much stronger and almost as light as all-alu tube. And much cheaper raw material & production.

An all alu body frame in this segment would still be too costly for BMW.




But as said: there will be many other body & chassis parts made of alu (and also other materials like magnesium, composite plastics etc).

Don't worry ... F10 won't be a weight monster.

 

[Merc1]

BMW 5 Series orders exceed expectations


The all-new BMW 5 Series has exceeded its maker's own sales forecasts by a mile, according to a report by Bloomberg. Unveiled in November last year, the F10 5-Series was launched in Europe this past March and is apparently selling like the proverbial hot cakes.

After losing money in 2009 the world's biggest maker of premium cars aims to improve its lot considerably in 2010. Cars like the X1 and 5-Series will help it achieve its target operating margin in the "lower one-digit percentage range." CEO Norbert Reithofer said his team is pushing for at least 1.3 million unit sales this year. However, challenges such as the lingering recession as well as Greece's financial problems and its effect on the euro currency could affect these plans.

BMW took the top premium automaker crown from the Mercedes-Benz brand in 2005 and has not looked back since, although Audi seems to be making a serious challenge for it.


BMW 5 Series orders exceed expectations

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100518/ANE/100519854/


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[Potential]

Yeah, Australia pretty much has a wait until the next generation waiting list... Can't wait for the M sports/M5.

 

[K-A]

BMW 5 Series orders exceed expectations


The all-new BMW 5 Series has exceeded its maker's own sales forecasts by a mile, according to a report by Bloomberg. Unveiled in November last year, the F10 5-Series was launched in Europe this past March and is apparently selling like the proverbial hot cakes.

After losing money in 2009 the world's biggest maker of premium cars aims to improve its lot considerably in 2010. Cars like the X1 and 5-Series will help it achieve its target operating margin in the "lower one-digit percentage range." CEO Norbert Reithofer said his team is pushing for at least 1.3 million unit sales this year. However, challenges such as the lingering recession as well as Greece's financial problems and its effect on the euro currency could affect these plans.

BMW took the top premium automaker crown from the Mercedes-Benz brand in 2005 and has not looked back since, although Audi seems to be making a serious challenge for it.


BMW 5 Series orders exceed expectations

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100518/ANE/100519854/


M

Great news! BMW deserves for THIS one to be a winner. If it checks out to how I think it will be, I'm rooting for it, and for this theme of styling to be rewarded.

 

[Zafiro]

I havent see a single 5-series on the streets and its weird since I live in Sweden. 5er GT, those I see everyday. Strange

 

[Human]

BMW 5 Series orders exceed expectations

Source: worldcarfans

Quote: "F10 5 Series is selling like proverbial hot cakes." BMW AG

 

[klier]

I havent see a single 5-series on the streets and its weird since I live in Sweden. 5er GT, those I see everyday. Strange

I have seen two or three only, not much more. And I too see the 5er GT everyday.

But it's not really strange, the 5er is much newer. In two/three months, the 5er will be as common as the 5er GT, and in half a year you will see the car EVERYWHERE. Just like the new E-class. It was pretty rare in the beginning, but now I see them a lot.

 

[K-A]

Yeah, same about the E-Class. Took a while for them to get common, but once that month kicked in where they did, they're everywhere. In a few years it'll be completely common place to see both of these cars all over the place. Thankfully BMW has an option that could keep someone's F10 somewhat different from the crowd: The M-Pack. I can't stress that factor enough.