5 Series (F10) [Official] BMW 5 Series Gran Turismo (F07)

[PHYBENZ]

I just noticed the location of the rear door handle... somewhat interesting...

 

[bmer]

I'm not exatly thrilled... Nice interior touches, would've liked more differences compared to X5/X6 and 7er though.

I have to see the thing in metal before I can comment on the outside. But at least it's nothing like a people carrier or MPV.

 

[terps]

When/where is this car being officially unveiled??

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Probably frankfurt or sooner!

Guess the new 5 series will look about the same....

 

[LaArtist]

Yeah another thing ive noted is that while the interior is good..its still very similar to the rest of the Bimmers..
I think BMW are becoming what audi was before.. very good and solid interiors..but with very little variation from modell to modell..

Kinda sucks..

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Yeah another thing ive noted is that while the interior is good..its still very similar to the rest of the Bimmers..
I think BMW are becoming what audi was before.. very good and solid interiors..but with very little variation from modell to modell..

Kinda sucks..

That is a good point...The interior are starting to be similar. MB on the other hand from the C to the E to the S all look different and even with the SLS it's completely different from the rest, but you can still recognized them as being in the MB family.

The car is still good, but that is a good factor to note.

 

[EnI]

I've explaind the aim of this car ... about zillion times.

And I won't do it again. I really won't ...

It's not my fault if you are not the target population - and therefore not understanding the car & its purpose, the needs behind, the question to the answer. .

It's pointless to explain it again since most or some of you will then claim "it's all BMW marketing BS & spin".

So ... enjoy the GT ... as you see & understand it.

Think of it as of quantum mechanics - something not for you to understand.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

I've explaind the aim of this car ... about zillion times.

And I won't do it again. I really won't ...

Lol...You shouldn't have to. Let BMW do that. Car looks good...and yes it will sale. End of story!

 

[siko]

That the ugliest BMW that i have ever seen.

Yeah, I'm pretty much of the same opinion... except for the interior of course.

 

[Sayyaaf]

at what volume this car will be produced ? it concerns me a bit

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Yeah, I'm pretty much of the same opinion... except for the interior of course.

Really? I thought you would have loved it.

I personally like this way more then any BMW (Other then the new 7 series and X6) especially the Z4 and M3.

 

[martinbo]

With all due respect EnI, some of us here aren't utter morons, so I hope that your comments are directed at broad sentiment and not particular individuals.

This car has no practical purpose, not does it have any aesthetic merit. It merely exists by way of being different and promising fat profit margins. People who'll buy them? I say whoever they are, their motives will be questionable, more so, borderline distasteful if you ask me.

It's one thing for people to discuss the merits of a car vs. its competitors without ever bringing to question what its purpose is. But when the actual purpose of a car is called into question; now then, clearly, the credibility of the maker is at stake.

This is not about being anti-BMW. No sir, not me. I can name several vehicles from direct competitors to BMW that have equally questionable purpose.

Sometimes there are just cars that this planet - regardless of the target audience - simply does not need.

 

[Centurion]

I've explaind the aim of this car ... about zillion times.

And I won't do it again. I really won't ...

The fact that you have had to do highlights the car's biggest flaw.

Porsche has made a niche car too, the Panamera but they have explained it in a simple way using a few words "A sports car for four".

It's not my fault if you are not the target population - and therefore not understanding the car & its purpose, the needs behind, the question to the answer.

Mmm cause it's common knowledge that GCF members like martinbo have problems with comprehension and don't know squat about cars.

Not everything BMW does is right path in life, they are not perfect. Other car manufacturers have had their blunders to, the R-Class, Porsche 928, Audi A2, Pontiac Aztek and VW Phaeton.

 

[EnI]

at what volume this car will be produced ? it concerns me a bit

It's a low-volume niche car.

BMW say expected sales are at 10% of total 5-series vehicle (= sedan, wagon, crossover) sales. Aprox. 10% GT, 20% Touring, 70% sedan.

So, somewhere between 15k to 25k per year. Worldwide.




Regarding PAS explanation: I've said it all in the spy & concept thread ... I won't repeat myself. It's all written there already. If interested - go find my older posts.

 

[Human]

Yeah, I'm pretty much of the same opinion... except for the interior of course.

Same on my side...Nice interior...UGLY outside.
WHY NOT RATHER GONE FOR THE X7 ??????????????????????
G-Class is doing well......A new niche....Mmmmm....Quantum Mechanics or not this project could ruin BMW Group's cash reserves.
8 series???? Rolls, LAmbo, Porche...all doing fine in these HARSH financial times.
8 or X7 rather than this!
I wrote a letter to Herr. Schrempp back in 99' about the HUGE & UGLY mistake of merging with Chrysler.....I WAS RIGHT!

 

[martinbo]

Really? I thought you would have loved it.

I personally like this way more then any BMW (Other then the new 7 series and X6) especially the Z4 and M3.

Ok, here's a question for you... would you buy this over a Merc E-Class. Seriously. Not an E-Class Coupe or a CLS or any other aspirational model. Just the E-Class, which, I know you're not madly fond of.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

I'm surprise that BMW fans are turning against their own product. Yes, why not get a X5, X6 or regular 5 wagon...but the car still isn't bad.

The front really is sort of a toned down CS concept, which some of you all seemed to love. Is this just because it's a hatchbach? We really can't actually be mad about the functionality of the car can we?

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Ok, here's a question for you... would you buy this over a Merc E-Class. Seriously. Not an E-Class Coupe or a CLS or any other aspirational model. Just the E-Class, which, I know you're not madly fond of.

Lol...Of course not! I like sedans. But the car still doesn't seem all that bad to me.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

8 or X7 rather than this!

Yes, I believe those vehicles should have come first. A CL and GL rival from BMW is a more pressing matter then a 5 GT, but hopefully that will be BMW next step.....Or maybe their just going to kill the 5 series wagon (which would make better sense for the 5 GT).

 

[Zafiro]

Interior very nice, exterior, LoL no thanks.