3 Series (G20) [Official] BMW 3 Series Touring Debuts (G21)

[M.N.D]

I'm in the middle of negotiating with my local BMW dealer right now to order a new car. LASER lights are not getting ticked.

Interesting! Replacing the 318i, I assume?

Congratulations in advance

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Interesting! Replacing the 318i, I assume?

Congratulations in advance

Originally that was the plan, but now the 318i will stay and my wife will use that. I'm negotiating a 330e sedan, but what I REALLY want is the 330e Touring, and that's not being launched until the summer. I'm impatient but my head is saying wait six months.

I've been reading up a lot about the 330e, and watching videos on YouTube, and it would fit very nicely into my life.

 

[M.N.D]

Originally that was the plan, but now the 318i will stay and my wife will use that. I'm negotiating a 330e sedan, but what I REALLY want is the 330e Touring, and that's not being launched until the summer. I'm impatient but my head is saying wait six months.

That sounds like an addition more than a replacement, so is it going to be more of your in-town personal car, if you don't mind me asking?

Speaking of the G2X 3er, I have to say that I like it a lot, but for me there's no 3 series that I didn't like, and while I prefer the traditional 3 box layout of the saloon, the Touring is the more practical choice, and the G21 looks the part.

Choosing the 330e is the best compromise if you find the electric-only range sufficient for you daily commute, while having the petrol engine to kick in whenever the battery is low.

All the best Have you decided which spec and colour you're going with?

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Originally that was the plan, but now the 318i will stay and my wife will use that. I'...

Did you consider a hybrid version when you were choosing your X5?

 

[Betty Swollocks]

@M.N.D and @CrunchSlaughtered

I'm going to reply to your questions in the G21 thread. I hate it when the discussion threads get spammed with loads of photos, so I don't think I should fill the photos and videos threads with me discussing a potential order.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

To answer your questions, @M.N.D and @CrunchSlaughtered

That sounds like an addition more than a replacement, so is it going to be more of your in-town personal car, if you don't mind me asking?

Yes, an addition. Originally I was going to get it to replace the 318i, but I've only had that 15 months and there's no point changing it so soon. At the moment the 318i is my "go to work" car and general in-town car, BUT with the ability to travel 2,000km in comfort over a weekend (if I don't want to go back in the X5). I do use it to drive from Holland to the UK (will be doing that this Friday). The thing is, my commute to work is 3km. So when I started looking at the 330e more, that was actually perfect for what I need. 95% of my driving in my 318i is within 30km, and the real world electric range on the 330e is around 45-50km. PLUS, it has the petrol engine for those long journeys to the UK and back. Ideally I would just get rid of the 318i and get the 330e, but I would lose too much on the 318i, so I'm just going to hold on to it.

I could order a 330e sedan now and get it in April, but I think I'm going to wait until the 330e Touring is available to order. The sedan has a particularly small boot due to the fuel tank taking up space, and with a baby you need all the room you can get. Also, I believe BMW will launch a 320e at the same time, so I'd like to look at that too and decide whether it has enough power for my needs.

So, my future plans are:

BMW 318i = Mainly for around town with occassional long distance work, particularly if I need to park in areas I don't feel comfortable parking my X5. It's 15 months old. I'll keep this until October 2021.

BMW X5 = Mainly long distance work back to the UK, as long as I have somewhere relatively safe to park it. Also for local journeys when family are visiting and I need to fit two adults and a baby seat in the back. I have no plans to sell the X5. It's 6 months old. I have no plans to sell this.

R8 V10 = Fun. It's 8 years old. I have no plans to sell this.

BMW 330e Touring = Commuting to work and anywhere within 30km, combined with occassional trips to the airport to pick family up and the UK. Not ordered yet.

Speaking of the G2X 3er, I have to say that I like it a lot, but for me there's no 3 series that I didn't like, and while I prefer the traditional 3 box layout of the saloon, the Touring is the more practical choice, and the G21 looks the part.

Choosing the 330e is the best compromise if you find the electric-only range sufficient for you daily commute, while having the petrol engine to kick in whenever the battery is low.

All the best Have you decided which spec and colour you're going with?

Oh yes. It's very clear in my mind, thanks to seeing a 330i Touring at the dealer last week. I didn't see my "exact" spec but the exterior colour is the same.

Oxide Grey
Black shadowline, including front grill
19" 791 M wheels in jet black

Did you consider a hybrid version when you were choosing your X5?

No. The X5 45e wasn't available six months ago, and my X5 is used mainly on long distance journeys, in which case diesel is better suited to that.

 

[mihc]

M340d xDrive Touring. 340HP and 700Nm of torque.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

The M340d xDrive Touring weighs 1,955kg to Eu1 standard.

Ouch.

 

[martinbo]

Hell, a 2 ton 3er... never thought I'd see the day.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

The M340d xDrive Touring weighs 1,955kg to Eu1 standard.

Ouch.

The chorus is quite applicable

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[advantage20]

That's the EU weight which includes 90% of all fluids including fuel tank and a 75kg driver.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

That's the EU weight which includes 90% of all fluids including fuel tank and a 75kg driver.

Yes. And your point is? It's the most common way of measuring weights in Europe.

And it's actually 68kg for driver and 7kg for luggage.

With me as the driver it would nudge over two tonnes.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Yes. And your point is? It's the most common way of measuring weights in Europe.

And...

And to be even more precise it's not 90% of all fluids but 100% of all other fluids(not sure for the window and headlamps washer fluids) and 90% of the tank.

 

[advantage20]

Yes. And your point is? It's the most common way of measuring weights in Europe...

That it's not a 2 tonne 3er.

And to be even more precise it's not 90% of all fluids but 100% of all other fluids(...

Even better then.

 

[Matski]

That it's not a 2 tonne 3er.

He didn't say 2 tonne, he said 2 ton

... of course ... if he meant an imperial ton, it would have been even further off.

 

[J.E]

2 tons is also equal to 8 feminists.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

That it's not a 2 tonne 3er.

But I never said it was. I said it was 1,955kg to EU1 standard. I then went on to say that with me driving it, it would be nudging over two tonnes, which is 2,000kg.

To put it into perspective, you can buy a long-wheelbase 7 Series that is nearly 100kg LIGHTER. The 540d xDrive Touring is also lighter.

He didn't say 2 tonne, he said 2 ton

... of course ... if he meant an imperial ton, it would have been even further off.

@advantage20 was replying to me, and I said "tonnes", and tonnes is what I meant. It was Martin who said "tons".

2 tons is also equal to 8 feminists.

Why have you posted this? Do you think it's funny? This is a car discussion forum, so I've no idea why you think making misogynistic "jokes" is appropriate. It just makes you look a bit of an idiot.

 

[Matski]

was replying to me, and I said "tonnes", and tonnes is what I meant. It was Martin who said "tons".

Ah yes, Martin's was the first mention I saw.

 

[advantage20]

But I never said it was. I said it was 1,955kg to EU1 standard. I then went on to say...

I was replying to martinbo's comment.

PS: not sure why you would assume the feminists' gender

 

[martinbo]

LOL - What are we splitting hairs about? It's immaterial as to whether it's tons (and I really did mean 2 tons) or tonnes or 100% fluids or 90% fluids or a skinny ass driver or a chunky ass driver... it's matterless.

We're talking a 3er that - according to official weight reporting standards - is 45kg short of 2000 kg! Holy shite.