3 Series (F30) [Official] BMW 3-Series (F30)

[Human]

Three-cylinder BMW 3 Series on its way?

O yes, this WILL happen! And all but the U.S. will get the choice of a i3 Turbocharged engine. This has been discussed a long time ago in detail.

 

[klier]

I've been talking with other BMW owners who seen the F30 in close like me. They feel the same as me and also pointed out about hard plastics. Don't get me wrong, its not like I dont want to own a F30 because of this, its just that I was expecting a lot better quality. I guess we have to wait for a facelift.

Tomorrow I hope I'll be driving the new 3-series.

I don't know what you were expecting in this class, but I can tell there has never in history been a car in this class with this level of luxury, tech, comfort and quality. W204 FL included.

 

[Human]

I've been talking with other BMW owners who seen the F30 in close like me. They feel the same as me and also pointed out about hard plastics. Don't get me wrong, its not like I dont want to own a F30 because of this, its just that I was expecting a lot better quality. I guess we have to wait for a facelift.

Tomorrow I hope I'll be driving the new 3-series.

Where are they most obvious Just_me, lower door pockets, seat back rear, lower dash, center console etc. ?

You have to touch. Scratch with your finger nails. Knock-on to listen at the sound of hollow NASTY plastic. Look at how shiny it is and take a photo with flash in hi-res. Even lick it if you want. Also painted plastic is better (VAG invented it) but is not hard wearing.

 

[Zafiro]

Where are they most obvious Just_me, lower door pockets, seat back rear, lower dash, center console etc. ?

You have to touch. Scratch with your finger nails. Knock-on to listen at the sound of hollow NASTY plastic. Look at how shiny it is and take a photo with flash in hi-res. Even lick it if you want. Also painted plastic is better (VAG invented it) but is not hard wearing.

I touched and touched, pretty much everything is hard plastics.

 

[klier]

I touched and touched, pretty much everything is hard plastics.

There are some hard plastics, there's no denying, but not they way you describe it, and only in lower places impossible to even see. Like the area where the right knee of the driver is.

BTW, the wood in the modern line is just off the charts. Never seen anything like this before, dare I say it, and people will soon enough see what I mean for themselves. Very, very cool!
Did you check the wood in the modern line J_M? What did you think?

 

[Human]

I will have my turn in March (It simply can't be worse than the F20) the latter impressed me with premium materials and plastics for it's segment, price and being a premium product.

 

[Giannis]

Is it possible, that you guys, that you have seen the car IRL, tell us which areas are of hard plastics?

 

[q5s]

Is it possible, that you guys, that you have seen the car IRL, tell us which areas are of hard plastics?

Why don't you see for yourself?



And those are the good parts...

Substandard, don't see what the fuss is about, like anyone expected anything different. And what's all the talk about wood. Pipe & slippers next? Rocking chair? Sorry to say but anyone impressed by f20 interior quality must drive an x1 or a mini.

 

[klier]

^^ You're really special that you can see what materials the car is made of with a picture. *cough*troll*cough*
FYI, F30 is better than anything VAG has in this segment.

And if anything, posting a picture of this insane resolution is going to make it look much worse than it is.

Is it possible, that you guys, that you have seen the car IRL, tell us which areas are of hard plastics?

There are some hard plastics, there's no denying, but not they way you describe it, and only in lower places impossible to even see*. Like the area where the right knee of the driver is.

*Unless you really went looking for it, everything is pretty premium, soft touch and high quality. There's some 'shortcuts' here and there, but then again this is no 7er. Quality has improved over the E90 without a doubt.

 

[south]

*Unless you really went looking for it, everything is pretty premium, soft touch and high quality. There's some 'shortcuts' here and there, but then again this is no 7er. Quality has improved over the E90 without a doubt.

Agreed, it's quite an improvement over the E90. Also, like you said, F10 and F01 are still in a whole different league, and rightfully so.


Best regards,
south

 

[Zafiro]

I was more impressed by the interior in F20 but thats because there were actually an improvement from previous generation. I would say F30 and F20 have the same interior standard. Its not like before were E90 were slightly better than E87.

 

[Human]

I promise to scru·ti·nize and examine + inspect the F30 closely and thoroughly. I will seek out and compare the F30's plastic quality against the E90's (which was the benchmark the past 7 years). With photo's of proof.

I suspect that the F10's leading example may have put our expectations a bit high. One conclusion I came to at JIMS is that - as with the E39 back in the day the F10 is by far the best buy in BMW's stable for you get near F01 quality for a price slightly higher then a 3er and half that of a 7er. Same goes for the E-class and A6 in their respective executive ladder'.

For this simple reason when I sat in the A7 and felt, saw, scratched and knocked-on the big slab of hard nasty plastic at the back half of the center console and knee-rests on both passenger + driver sides. I thought "damn you Audi! You're suppose to offer resistance against the competition not spread the message, that it's ok to go down market!" Oh, and the same goes for the W204 FL, which is doubtless better than before but still only 1/2 a job done and only 50% better.

For it's competition between our beloved German Car Brands that keeps them fit!

 

[Human]

why don't you see for yourself?



and those are the good parts...

Substandard, don't see what the fuss is about, like anyone expected anything different. And what's all the talk about wood. Pipe & slippers next? Rocking chair? Sorry to say but anyone impressed by f20 interior quality must drive an x1 or a mini.

^
lol

I drive the best of both world's an X1 and X6 M. Everybody knows how I feel about the X1's plastics. The X6 has Nappa stitched dash, steering wheel and also soft touch everything. I was pleasantly impressed with the F20's huge improvement, not only compared to the previous generation 1er's sub VAG (VW brand cars) standards but to real world actual Premium standards (VW does not make premium).

 

[Deckhook]

I'm with Just_me, there is plenty of hard plastic but this doesn't bother me because like with the latest Audis it's in areas where your hands seldom touch. Overall I like the design and I especially like the space BMW have found in the rear.

P.S.
What's with the rough finish around the rim of the steering wheel, I'm use to the M3 and Audi's smooth leather steering wheels, is this normal on the ordinary BMWs?

 

[Human]

I'm with Just_me, there is plenty of hard plastic but this doesn't bother me because like with the latest Audis it's in areas where your hands seldom touch. Overall I like the design and I especially like the space BMW have found in the rear.

That sounds like a fair assessment and also reflects what Klier has said about the F30's 'nasty' plastics. Perceived quality aside I can't wait for local introduction and the IRL experience of the F30!

 

[Deckhook]

You see there is the point, only a car nerd would go around poking and pressing areas where your knee normally is or on door parts other than the handle and arm rest. What I ever want from an interior is an exciting design, top quality feel on the steering as this is the thing you actually spent in connect with 99% of the time, a decent stereo to list to tunes, comfy & supportive seats and above all NO RATTLES. I've yet to drive the 3 but I'm sure it will do very well in each area apart from one, the steering wheel feels horrid.

I do like the red stripe across the dash, if there's one thing a BMW dash needed was a splash of excitement and flair which this does do. Also boot is a good size with plenty of depth.

 

[Zafiro]

At the VIP I heard people saying that 335i is the only car with a real engine. Not many people have adjusted to 4-cylinders BMW yet

 

[Deckhook]

^ That's worrying because the stats suggest a crackling little engine. What is their reasons for this?

 

[Zafiro]

^ That's worrying because the stats suggest a crackling little engine. What is their reasons for this?

tradition of course! pretty much every 3er been using 6-cylinders for a very long time.

 

[skbmw]

I guess these spyshots of the F31 haven't yet been posted. Courtesy of BimmerToday.