The BMW 1 Series is a range of subcompact executive cars (C-segment) manufactured by BMW since 2004. Positioned as the entry-level model in BMW range of products, the first generation was produced in hatchback, coupé and convertible body styles.
How much is a BMW 1M worth?
Wed Nov 02 2011
Steve Sutcliffe
Saw an intriguing advert on Pistonheads this week for a brand new, unregistered BMW 1-series M Coupe – which appears to be the exact spitting image of the car currently being run by yours truly on Autocar’s long term fleet.
It has all the options you’d ever want and is painted in Valencia orange, just as ours is, and it’ll be ready for delivery ‘at the end of November/beginning of December’ according to the vendor, one Mr Steve Nash, from Essex.
What’s most intriguing about the advert is the price, which is quoted at £51,000. Given that a basic 1M costs £40k and there would appear to be about £5k of options fitted, this means Mr Nash is expecting to mark his car up by almost 15 per cent. Which isn’t a bad return for a car that wears a BMW 1-series badge, no matter how much extra muscle it may contain within its deliciously blistered wheelarches.
So I called BMW GB to find out a) whether all of the 450 1Ms due to be sold in the UK had actually been sold, b) to establish whether Mr Nash was a touch deluded in his ambitions or not, and c) to ask whether they (BMW GB) regret not charging more for the car if, indeed, this is its market value.
The answers were – yes, it’s sold out; no, he’s not deluded (not at all, in fact); and "no comment" regards the ‘should we have charged more for it?’ quandary.
So then I called Mr Nash of Essex to find out how much response he’d had so far. "Not much as yet" he said "although to be fair the ad hasn’t been running for very long."
Turns out he’s not a speculator as such but is merely "moving house and has a new M5 to finance, so basically I thought I’d give it a go."
The very best of luck to you Mr Nash – and that’s not just from us but from those at BMW GB as well…
How much is a BMW 1M worth? - Anything goes
NOTE: Clicking on the link returns the message "This advert has been withdrawn." Probably sold it?
Wed Nov 02 2011
Steve Sutcliffe
Saw an intriguing advert on Pistonheads this week for a brand new, unregistered BMW 1-series M Coupe – which appears to be the exact spitting image of the car currently being run by yours truly on Autocar’s long term fleet.
It has all the options you’d ever want and is painted in Valencia orange, just as ours is, and it’ll be ready for delivery ‘at the end of November/beginning of December’ according to the vendor, one Mr Steve Nash, from Essex.
What’s most intriguing about the advert is the price, which is quoted at £51,000. Given that a basic 1M costs £40k and there would appear to be about £5k of options fitted, this means Mr Nash is expecting to mark his car up by almost 15 per cent. Which isn’t a bad return for a car that wears a BMW 1-series badge, no matter how much extra muscle it may contain within its deliciously blistered wheelarches.
So I called BMW GB to find out a) whether all of the 450 1Ms due to be sold in the UK had actually been sold, b) to establish whether Mr Nash was a touch deluded in his ambitions or not, and c) to ask whether they (BMW GB) regret not charging more for the car if, indeed, this is its market value.
The answers were – yes, it’s sold out; no, he’s not deluded (not at all, in fact); and "no comment" regards the ‘should we have charged more for it?’ quandary.
So then I called Mr Nash of Essex to find out how much response he’d had so far. "Not much as yet" he said "although to be fair the ad hasn’t been running for very long."
Turns out he’s not a speculator as such but is merely "moving house and has a new M5 to finance, so basically I thought I’d give it a go."
The very best of luck to you Mr Nash – and that’s not just from us but from those at BMW GB as well…
How much is a BMW 1M worth? - Anything goes
NOTE: Clicking on the link returns the message "This advert has been withdrawn." Probably sold it?
SCOTT27
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I remember they were looking at the 1M with Power Green and a new interpretation of Daytona Violet (more environment friendly). They even brought in somebody who mixes cocktails in a high end Munich bar to develop color ideas for the materials division. Which is one method in new color development.
Valencia Orange was in development for the F20 and thus became a cost effective measure to use. But in regards for the final cost for the special order Sepang Bronze comes to with all costs including delivery to the customer as a special freight order - Almost the cost of another 1M Coupe.
So it is not available to all and remains as a one off. At M we have done a new M5 finished in BMW Individual Chestnut with Champagne Interior which is nothing but stunning, plus we have a prototype Gran Coupe in the same specifcation which is used as a pallette to test compositions for BMW individual. Plus a stunning Macademia 5er GT with a very premium Individual composition which really showcases the true potential of the 5er GT - a new interpretation of a luxury limousine with emphasis on the passenger.
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Not yet because Leipzig is not equipped to handle Individual orders. The Sport Line and Urban Line are a more commercial form of Individual, so they use specific materials suited to the car. In the previous generation there was hardly any demand to produce an Individual 1er there was some interest with the Coupe but these were refused. The most common BMW Individual model is the 7er.
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H&R Springs BMW 1M Coupe
The BMW 1M Coupe has and is being compared with the original (E30) M3, the car that defined the boy racer! The new 1M Coupe continues this heritage. Just one look tells you this is a very special car. It is a small car with huge wheels and tires to take advantage of the power and handling that is on tap. Its extremities bristle with aerodynamic features which sole purpose is to reduce turbulence and increase downforces creating a driving machine that slips through the air and sticks to the road.
This project is limited to a few high-end performance parts – H&R suspension, BBS wheels, Brembo Big Brakes and Continental tires. These brands are a perfect fit for this one of a kind vehicle. The associations of these products are easily recognized as the best of the best. Working with these well-known tuning companies adds to the uniqueness of the BMW 1M Coupe while retaining its true character.
H&R Suspension components are known for their quality and performance. This one-of-a-kind performance coupe has no equal and H&R ride development engineers have designed the H&R Sport Springs to give this amazing car the perfect stance and performance handling. The progressive spring rate provides superb ride quality and comfort. H&R maintains its natural connection with this phenomenal car by direct involvement with BMW Motorsport. We know BMWs and our products demonstrate this.
H&R Sport Springs for the BMW 1M (e82) lower approximately 1.2 inches front and 0.6 inches rear - eliminating the huge front tire and wheel gap, for a more homogeneous appearance. Lowering your BMW with H&R Sport Springs improves handling and provides that cool H&R stance.
In addition to the H&R Sport Spring, H&R Sway Bars have been included front and rear. The new sway bars are 27mm front and 23mm rear. These awesome bars have forged ends and are made from HF wire that is heat treated and shot peened – an industry exclusive.
H&R Trak+ Wheel Spacers perfectly space the wheels and tires in fender wells, and allow for wheel clearance of the big Brembo calipers.
With the reintroduction of the classic BBS RS wheels, the new BBS Super RS wheels are the only choice for the 1M. BBS has always been synonymous with BMW Motorsports making it a natural fit for this project. The BBS Super RS wheels measure 19x9” front and 19x10” rear. These wheels are fitted with Continental ExtremeContact DW tires, size 245/35ZR19 front, 265/35ZR19 rear.
The BMW 1M Coupe has great brakes, but the with addition of Brembo GT 380mm Big Brake Kit front & rear with cross drilled rotors the stopping power of the 1M is nothing short of breathtaking. Custom Motorsport Blue Calipers with white Brembo logos really stand out behind the BBS wheels.
Inside the WeatherTech® FloorLinerTMDigitalFit®accurately and completely lines the interior carpet giving “absolute interior protectionTM”! Digital laser measurements of interior surfaces offer a consistently perfect fit! A patent pending High-Density Tri-Extruded (HDTE) material allows for a rigid core for strength while offering surface friction to the carpet, as well as tactile feel to the surface! They look good and the keep 1M Coupes interior like carpet looking brand new.
Specifications.
Base Vehicle:
2011 BMW 1M Coupe
TwinPower Turbo 3.0 liter 6 cyl
6-speed transmission
Chassis:
H&R Sport Suspension
H&R Sport Sway Bar — Front 27mm
H&R Sport Sway Bar — Rear 23mm
H&R TRAK+® Wheel Spacers
Wheels & Tires:
BBS Super RS wheels, size 19x9” front 19x10” rear
Continental ExtremeContact DW tires, size 245/35ZR19 front, 265/35ZR19 rear
Exterior:
Brembo GT 380mm Big Brake Kit front & rear with
Custom Motorsport Blue Calipers
Sticky Jewel Graphics
BMW Accessories 1M Car Cover from Laurel BMW of Westmont, IL
Interior:
Weathertech Floor Mats
The BMW 1M Coupe has and is being compared with the original (E30) M3, the car that defined the boy racer! The new 1M Coupe continues this heritage. Just one look tells you this is a very special car. It is a small car with huge wheels and tires to take advantage of the power and handling that is on tap. Its extremities bristle with aerodynamic features which sole purpose is to reduce turbulence and increase downforces creating a driving machine that slips through the air and sticks to the road.
This project is limited to a few high-end performance parts – H&R suspension, BBS wheels, Brembo Big Brakes and Continental tires. These brands are a perfect fit for this one of a kind vehicle. The associations of these products are easily recognized as the best of the best. Working with these well-known tuning companies adds to the uniqueness of the BMW 1M Coupe while retaining its true character.
H&R Suspension components are known for their quality and performance. This one-of-a-kind performance coupe has no equal and H&R ride development engineers have designed the H&R Sport Springs to give this amazing car the perfect stance and performance handling. The progressive spring rate provides superb ride quality and comfort. H&R maintains its natural connection with this phenomenal car by direct involvement with BMW Motorsport. We know BMWs and our products demonstrate this.
H&R Sport Springs for the BMW 1M (e82) lower approximately 1.2 inches front and 0.6 inches rear - eliminating the huge front tire and wheel gap, for a more homogeneous appearance. Lowering your BMW with H&R Sport Springs improves handling and provides that cool H&R stance.
In addition to the H&R Sport Spring, H&R Sway Bars have been included front and rear. The new sway bars are 27mm front and 23mm rear. These awesome bars have forged ends and are made from HF wire that is heat treated and shot peened – an industry exclusive.
H&R Trak+ Wheel Spacers perfectly space the wheels and tires in fender wells, and allow for wheel clearance of the big Brembo calipers.
With the reintroduction of the classic BBS RS wheels, the new BBS Super RS wheels are the only choice for the 1M. BBS has always been synonymous with BMW Motorsports making it a natural fit for this project. The BBS Super RS wheels measure 19x9” front and 19x10” rear. These wheels are fitted with Continental ExtremeContact DW tires, size 245/35ZR19 front, 265/35ZR19 rear.
The BMW 1M Coupe has great brakes, but the with addition of Brembo GT 380mm Big Brake Kit front & rear with cross drilled rotors the stopping power of the 1M is nothing short of breathtaking. Custom Motorsport Blue Calipers with white Brembo logos really stand out behind the BBS wheels.
Inside the WeatherTech® FloorLinerTMDigitalFit®accurately and completely lines the interior carpet giving “absolute interior protectionTM”! Digital laser measurements of interior surfaces offer a consistently perfect fit! A patent pending High-Density Tri-Extruded (HDTE) material allows for a rigid core for strength while offering surface friction to the carpet, as well as tactile feel to the surface! They look good and the keep 1M Coupes interior like carpet looking brand new.
Specifications.
Base Vehicle:
2011 BMW 1M Coupe
TwinPower Turbo 3.0 liter 6 cyl
6-speed transmission
Chassis:
H&R Sport Suspension
H&R Sport Sway Bar — Front 27mm
H&R Sport Sway Bar — Rear 23mm
H&R TRAK+® Wheel Spacers
Wheels & Tires:
BBS Super RS wheels, size 19x9” front 19x10” rear
Continental ExtremeContact DW tires, size 245/35ZR19 front, 265/35ZR19 rear
Exterior:
Brembo GT 380mm Big Brake Kit front & rear with
Custom Motorsport Blue Calipers
Sticky Jewel Graphics
BMW Accessories 1M Car Cover from Laurel BMW of Westmont, IL
Interior:
Weathertech Floor Mats
Autoweek Review Notes
If you thought the 135i was quick, meet the M coupe
By: Roger Hart on 11/10/2011
EXECUTIVE EDITOR ROGER HART: This 2011 BMW 1-series M coupe is a honey--one of the best-balanced, best-handling cars on the planet. It has everything you want in a sports car: the great handling, a terrific power-to-weight ratio, a great shifter, outstanding brakes and a fun factor that everyday drivers rarely possess.
Yes, this is an expensive ride, and one could argue that you'd be better off in a 3-series. Maybe. But, as an M model, this car is being sold in limited quantities--there just aren't going to be many on the road here. The driving dynamics are simply outstanding. It is essentially a two-seater, with the rear seats used only for those who are severely vertically challenged.
The interior trim, with Alcantara on the dash, door panels and shifter boot, is a nice touch, as is the top-stitched trim in a contrasting color. There's seemingly no provision for a navigation system, and the radio interface is looking dated. This model did not have satellite radio, which is hard to believe in a car this expensive.
I'm not sure that this would be my first choice on which to drop $50,000, but it would be a helluva good-time investment.
DIGITAL EDITOR ANDREW STOY: I entered the 1-series M coupe armed with my prejudices against the 1-series in general: It's way too expensive for what it offers in amenities, driving experience and design.
What a difference an M makes.
Viewed as a six-cylinder performance coupe, $50,000 still seems high. But seeing the car as a Porsche Cayman fighter, it's suddenly inexpensive, and that's exactly what the M coupe is. The motorsports changes to the 1-series transform a capable little two-door into a brilliantly balanced sports car with one of the best powertrains on the planet.
Clutch takeup occurs right at the middle of the pedal travel. Combined with the progressive throttle response and buttery shifter, it's not just that the M coupe is fast, but it's easy to drive fast, too. Brake feel is outstanding, and the handling was impeccable without sacrificing ride quality on Detroit's notorious freeways.
Even the inside was better than standard fare. The judicious application of suede does wonders for the black rubber 1-series cockpit. I still think the radio/climate head unit is among the worst in the business, but in the 1-series M coupe, I simply don't care.
I never thought I'd say it, but for those partial to European cars, the 1-series M coupe is a performance bargain.
NEWS EDITOR GREG MIGLIORE: Carving up an expressway ramp in third gear and exploding into traffic is an absolute riot in this 2011 BMW 1-series M coupe. The steering, operated via with the meaty wheel that grips around your fingers, has a pitch-perfect weight. The chassis is tight, and the body is proportioned exceptionally well. The twin-turbo engine turns this into a pocket rocket and is as much fun as you can have in this packaging. Launches are conducted with ease, and extreme energy is available with the jab of the throttle.
I like the looks. The wheel wells are curvy and over-the-top and the cabin is nicely appointed with excellent materials. This is a sleeper car that looks ready to wreak havoc upon closer inspection.
This is a fun car. I put a ton of miles on it and never tired, thanks to the smooth, easy clutch and sharp reflexes. My issue? It's a $50,000 1-series with a powerplant borrowed from some of BMW's more pedestrian cars. There are more practical options with nearly the same amount of enthusiasm offered via the driving experience.
ROAD TEST EDITOR JONATHAN WONG: Since the 1-series went on sale here in the United States, people have moaned about how expensive the “entry-level” BMW is. I can't really disagree with that because even the base 128i coupe model stickers for more than $31,000, which is a lot of loot for something this size and with an interior that is far from top-shelf.
But drive a 1-series and then the price will make a little more sense. Even in the least powerful 128i form, this car is a riot to pilot. Steering is a high point, along with a chassis that does whatever you ask of it with precision. Plain and simple, it's a driver's car, and in a world where cars are becoming more complicated with tech nannies and doodads, I believe that's worth something.
So what happens when BMW's M division folks get a hold of it? It gets more power (though I think 300 hp in the 135i is more than enough), upgraded suspension bits and more aggressive bodywork. Under the hood, a twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter I6 with 335 hp from the 335is and the Z4 sDrive35is is swapped in. Torque is rated at 332 lb-ft, but an overboost function adds an additional 38 lb-ft for a short period for 370 lb-ft. To further support that the 1-series M coupe is a driver's car, a six-speed manual is the only available gearbox. No dual-clutch transmission option here.
The suspension gets a host of lighter-weight aluminum parts, a wider track, upgraded bushings and ball joints, hollow antiroll bars, a lower ride height and the 19-inch wheel and tire package from the M3 Competition package. Upgraded brakes also come courtesy of the M3.
To accommodate the wider track and larger wheels, the bodywork features flared front and rear wheel housings, specific side sills and more aggressive bumpers with bigger air ducts up front. Changes inside are minimal, with a thick-rimmed M steering wheel and some well-placed Alcantara on the gauge hood and dash and for the shifter boot.
As for the drive, it's a glorious package. As I said, I think the BMW 135i is already quick, but the extra grunt in the M coupe is usable and available instantly. There's no turbo lag to speak of and the engine pulls strong to redline. The manual gearbox is typical BMW with longish, rubbery throws and middle pedal-stroke clutch takeup. Steering is an upgraded version of the 135i's hydraulic system with massive feedback, instant response to inputs and a very heavy feel.
With roadways damp and temperatures cool during my one-night stint I remained cautious, but I did push it every chance I got as much as I could before the cold tires slid in protest. Body motions are always kept in check, and through corners there's plenty of grip to be had under ideal conditions. I can better speak to ride quality that wasn't harsh in the slightest and fine for a daily driver. Oh, and the brakes provide all the bite you'll need with a pedal that's easy to modulate.
The M visual changes look great in being aggressive but not overly so. The large front air ducts and heavily flared wheel arches look menacing, and then there's just a small, tasteful trunk lip spoiler out back. I've seen plenty of modified 1-series cars on the road and they are eye-catching--I always check to see whether they are M coupes. So far, none of them have been. That speaks to the exclusivity of the car, which is a perk.
So before you call the 1-series M coupe overpriced, take everything it offers into account. The pure performance it offers, badass looks straight from the factory and its limited-edition nature do mean something. Is it worth the almost $7,000 price jump from the 135i to get into the M coupe when comparing base prices? To some, it probably does. Is it worth it to me? I'm not sure yet. More seat time is required.
However, I do have to agree with Andy. In European performance-car terms, when you compare it with cars such as the two-seater Porsche Cayman, it can be considered a deal at its $47,000 base price.
2011 BMW 1-series M Coupe: Review notes - Autoweek
If you thought the 135i was quick, meet the M coupe
By: Roger Hart on 11/10/2011
EXECUTIVE EDITOR ROGER HART: This 2011 BMW 1-series M coupe is a honey--one of the best-balanced, best-handling cars on the planet. It has everything you want in a sports car: the great handling, a terrific power-to-weight ratio, a great shifter, outstanding brakes and a fun factor that everyday drivers rarely possess.
Yes, this is an expensive ride, and one could argue that you'd be better off in a 3-series. Maybe. But, as an M model, this car is being sold in limited quantities--there just aren't going to be many on the road here. The driving dynamics are simply outstanding. It is essentially a two-seater, with the rear seats used only for those who are severely vertically challenged.
The interior trim, with Alcantara on the dash, door panels and shifter boot, is a nice touch, as is the top-stitched trim in a contrasting color. There's seemingly no provision for a navigation system, and the radio interface is looking dated. This model did not have satellite radio, which is hard to believe in a car this expensive.
I'm not sure that this would be my first choice on which to drop $50,000, but it would be a helluva good-time investment.
DIGITAL EDITOR ANDREW STOY: I entered the 1-series M coupe armed with my prejudices against the 1-series in general: It's way too expensive for what it offers in amenities, driving experience and design.
What a difference an M makes.
Viewed as a six-cylinder performance coupe, $50,000 still seems high. But seeing the car as a Porsche Cayman fighter, it's suddenly inexpensive, and that's exactly what the M coupe is. The motorsports changes to the 1-series transform a capable little two-door into a brilliantly balanced sports car with one of the best powertrains on the planet.
Clutch takeup occurs right at the middle of the pedal travel. Combined with the progressive throttle response and buttery shifter, it's not just that the M coupe is fast, but it's easy to drive fast, too. Brake feel is outstanding, and the handling was impeccable without sacrificing ride quality on Detroit's notorious freeways.
Even the inside was better than standard fare. The judicious application of suede does wonders for the black rubber 1-series cockpit. I still think the radio/climate head unit is among the worst in the business, but in the 1-series M coupe, I simply don't care.
I never thought I'd say it, but for those partial to European cars, the 1-series M coupe is a performance bargain.
NEWS EDITOR GREG MIGLIORE: Carving up an expressway ramp in third gear and exploding into traffic is an absolute riot in this 2011 BMW 1-series M coupe. The steering, operated via with the meaty wheel that grips around your fingers, has a pitch-perfect weight. The chassis is tight, and the body is proportioned exceptionally well. The twin-turbo engine turns this into a pocket rocket and is as much fun as you can have in this packaging. Launches are conducted with ease, and extreme energy is available with the jab of the throttle.
I like the looks. The wheel wells are curvy and over-the-top and the cabin is nicely appointed with excellent materials. This is a sleeper car that looks ready to wreak havoc upon closer inspection.
This is a fun car. I put a ton of miles on it and never tired, thanks to the smooth, easy clutch and sharp reflexes. My issue? It's a $50,000 1-series with a powerplant borrowed from some of BMW's more pedestrian cars. There are more practical options with nearly the same amount of enthusiasm offered via the driving experience.
ROAD TEST EDITOR JONATHAN WONG: Since the 1-series went on sale here in the United States, people have moaned about how expensive the “entry-level” BMW is. I can't really disagree with that because even the base 128i coupe model stickers for more than $31,000, which is a lot of loot for something this size and with an interior that is far from top-shelf.
But drive a 1-series and then the price will make a little more sense. Even in the least powerful 128i form, this car is a riot to pilot. Steering is a high point, along with a chassis that does whatever you ask of it with precision. Plain and simple, it's a driver's car, and in a world where cars are becoming more complicated with tech nannies and doodads, I believe that's worth something.
So what happens when BMW's M division folks get a hold of it? It gets more power (though I think 300 hp in the 135i is more than enough), upgraded suspension bits and more aggressive bodywork. Under the hood, a twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter I6 with 335 hp from the 335is and the Z4 sDrive35is is swapped in. Torque is rated at 332 lb-ft, but an overboost function adds an additional 38 lb-ft for a short period for 370 lb-ft. To further support that the 1-series M coupe is a driver's car, a six-speed manual is the only available gearbox. No dual-clutch transmission option here.
The suspension gets a host of lighter-weight aluminum parts, a wider track, upgraded bushings and ball joints, hollow antiroll bars, a lower ride height and the 19-inch wheel and tire package from the M3 Competition package. Upgraded brakes also come courtesy of the M3.
To accommodate the wider track and larger wheels, the bodywork features flared front and rear wheel housings, specific side sills and more aggressive bumpers with bigger air ducts up front. Changes inside are minimal, with a thick-rimmed M steering wheel and some well-placed Alcantara on the gauge hood and dash and for the shifter boot.
As for the drive, it's a glorious package. As I said, I think the BMW 135i is already quick, but the extra grunt in the M coupe is usable and available instantly. There's no turbo lag to speak of and the engine pulls strong to redline. The manual gearbox is typical BMW with longish, rubbery throws and middle pedal-stroke clutch takeup. Steering is an upgraded version of the 135i's hydraulic system with massive feedback, instant response to inputs and a very heavy feel.
With roadways damp and temperatures cool during my one-night stint I remained cautious, but I did push it every chance I got as much as I could before the cold tires slid in protest. Body motions are always kept in check, and through corners there's plenty of grip to be had under ideal conditions. I can better speak to ride quality that wasn't harsh in the slightest and fine for a daily driver. Oh, and the brakes provide all the bite you'll need with a pedal that's easy to modulate.
The M visual changes look great in being aggressive but not overly so. The large front air ducts and heavily flared wheel arches look menacing, and then there's just a small, tasteful trunk lip spoiler out back. I've seen plenty of modified 1-series cars on the road and they are eye-catching--I always check to see whether they are M coupes. So far, none of them have been. That speaks to the exclusivity of the car, which is a perk.
So before you call the 1-series M coupe overpriced, take everything it offers into account. The pure performance it offers, badass looks straight from the factory and its limited-edition nature do mean something. Is it worth the almost $7,000 price jump from the 135i to get into the M coupe when comparing base prices? To some, it probably does. Is it worth it to me? I'm not sure yet. More seat time is required.
However, I do have to agree with Andy. In European performance-car terms, when you compare it with cars such as the two-seater Porsche Cayman, it can be considered a deal at its $47,000 base price.
2011 BMW 1-series M Coupe: Review notes - Autoweek
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And Jeremy Clarkson's opinion is about as important as mine or whoever happens to post after me in this thread.
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I'm just as annoyed as Matin here. What's the point in a car that was sold out before it even arrived due to ridiculous production allocation. And then you have individuals trying to profiteer from the situation just because they got in early.
Damn BMW for making it so desirable! lol
Damn BMW for making it so desirable! lol
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Remember that this car is an essence a hatchback, a VW Golf competitor, albeit a darn fast and competent one. The M derivative pushes the car into a price bracket that's at the far top end for hatchback derived cars. Given that this is the first ever 1M and featured a non-bespoke engine BMW took the cautious route in estimating how well the market would receive the model. They did not want to repeat the commercial struggles that faced the Z3-M and Z4-M. Given the praise and warm reviews I'd expect a full fledge production volume for the F20 based 1M.
If you've driven the cars he has, then sure
The looks, that is. And that's the sad part, because technically it's far better than old 1er. Material quality, efficiency, weight, dynamics......everything but looks.
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That might be right, but it is simply not good looking. I'd rather not be seen in one and I'd buy the E87 at the same price over it... to me, being so very pretty myself (and fashion forward, might I add), the looks of the F20 is a deal breaker.
ateekt
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I saw one the other day & had to pull over & take some shots. What a beauty it is in person! You can't just deny its powerful presence!!
http://www.germancarforum.com/sightings/22158-spotted-today-thread-5-a-120.html#post537706
http://www.germancarforum.com/sightings/22158-spotted-today-thread-5-a-120.html#post537706
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If you've driven the cars he has, then sure
He's a media personality with a tenuous link to cars and any serious car enthusiast can see through his opinions at 100 paces. His reviews are often a tool to provoke controversy and not meant to be taken seriously. Next you'll be telling me you think the Top Gear lap times are a serious indication of performance.
No you're right of course but at least he has some serious experience with a lot of different cars. So he's not like you and me or anyone else here on this forum who hasn't driven every possible car there is (except Footie of course, he has)
Dr: LOL
You're right though, the looks are putting me off too no matter how good the car is.
Dr: LOL
You're right though, the looks are putting me off too no matter how good the car is.
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