911 (992) [Official] 2021 Porsche 911 GT3 (992 Series)

[martinbo]

Now is the time for the ULTIMATE QUESTION (especially aimed at @martinbo):

For years I have been saying the Porsche sportscars (now 911 and 718) lacked double wishbone front suspension. Porsche worshipers that could not stand me pointing out the flaw of their -- in their own blinded eyes -- "perfect" god, called me a heretic.

If I was a heretic, and their Porsche was perfect as god, WHY does this new 911 GT3 have the "not needed" double-wishbone front suspension instead of the "perfect" McPherson struts?

again:

WHY DOES 992 GT3 HAVE DOUBLE WISHBONE INSTEAD OF MCPHERSON STRUTS?

You sound like a raving lunatic in that post. Why all the bold and caps? Do you think I can't read? Is this really the the ultimate question? And where did I ever call you a heretic?

You say, that you, clearly a performance car expert and suspension geometry guru pointed out a flaw (you better look up that definition) in their product.

Well then the answer is quite simple, Porsche ensured that the McPherson strut layout delivered excellent results and this was proven in everything from driver appeal to track performance to sales volumes.
Now Porsche has decided to implement double wishbones because they want to do even better.

You see, the problem with being an internet armchair punter is that it's easy to spout fancy terms. But unless you actually have first hand experience as to how flawed the previous suspension setup was and how it affected your personal attempt at a Ring lap record, then I really don't think you're posing anything ultimate at all.

 

[Levi68]

You sound like a raving lunatic in that post. Why all the bold and caps? Do you think I can't read? Is this really the the ultimate question? And where did I ever call you a heretic?

You say, that you, clearly a performance car expert and suspension geometry guru pointed out a flaw (you better look up that definition) in their product.

Well then the answer is quite simple, Porsche ensured that the McPherson strut layout delivered excellent results and this was proven in everything from driver appeal to track performance to sales volumes.
Now Porsche has decided to implement double wishbones because they want to do even better.

You see, the problem with being an internet armchair punter is that it's easy to spout fancy terms. But unless you actually have first hand experience as to how flawed the previous suspension setup was and how it affected your personal attempt at a Ring lap record, then I really don't think you're posing anything ultimate at all.

You answered the question: because better. But "better" is not valid when it comes from an "armchair" expert as me, it is only valid when it comes from "Porsche Marketing", or you because you are the real "real life experienced expert".

 

[TopspeedPT]

Interestingly and of course totally irrelevant, the new manual GT3 is slower in acceleration than previous manual GT3...

Hmm, that's weird.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

A great car but not a big upgrade over the previous version.

 

[Centurion]

A great car but not a big upgrade over the previous version.

40-50% increase in down force is pretty mighty. The benefits are not visible on spec sheets but will be noticeable when the car is driven properly.

However Porsche customers can always choose the Turbo or GT2 RS of they crave lots of power.

 

[martinbo]

You answered the question: because better.

Quote me properly. I said even better.

But "better" is not valid when it comes from an "armchair" expert as me, it is only valid when it comes from "Porsche Marketing"

No, let's get this straight - you said flawed. There is nothing flawed about any previous GT3 suspension. But yes, from you, not valid.

, or you because you are the real "real life experienced expert".

Compared to you, yes, far more experienced. Compared to the paid professionals who develop, test and race these things, far less experienced. It's all relative.

 

[Sunny]

Looks awesome, but horrible pics. Looks like from a computer game.

Still not feeling the hood vents. The cup car does it right.

 

[Porsche Guy]

Hmm, that's weird.

I suspect the slower acceleration with the manual at higher speeds is due to increased downforce/drag. New PDK has shorter gearing.

 

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[martinbo]

Looks awesome, but horrible pics. Looks like from a computer game.

Still not feeling the hood vents. The cup car does it right.

I have to say, it's a great launch colour but certainly not my personal choice. Looking forward to seeing it in other colours like carmine red (if it's offered as a standard one) and GT silver.
The initial batch of official pics aren't great but I think it looks great - I really like those bonnet vents. Goose neck wing struts look ace in a way I'd never expected.

 

[klier]

Wish it got the hood scoops from the Cup like Sunny said, but it's quite magnificent overall. And even when I am not a fan of Smurf blue, that color will look great in Monaco on the Cote D'Azur or on a track.

And that Ring time is insane. What a weapon.

 

[klier]

So it's safe to say the 992 GT2 RS will do between 6:20 and 6:30 on the Ring?

 

[LaArtist]

Amazing, nothing short of amazing.

hate that blue though. And hate the 30k price hike .

i wish I had more money, as most of
Us right now.

 

[klier]

Sell your baby

 

[Sunny]

o seeing it in other colours like carmine red (if it's offered as a standard one)

No carmine red as per the German configurator. Which sucks cause it would have went well with all the black surfaces.

 

[LaArtist]

Sell your baby

You know what they go for these days ?

 

[LaArtist]

I would take it in PTS signal yellow. And never want another car.

 

[Sunny]

My 2 favorites from the satandard colors - Agate

Or Python - yea I have a thing for green frogs

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Oh shit, the German configurator is up? F*** yeah! The US configurator wasn't up earlier in the day. Time to waste time on a car I'll never be able to afford but will haunt my dreams for the forseeable future.

Sigh.

No carmine red as per the German configurator. Which sucks cause it would have went well with all the black surfaces.

I guess that's where PTS comes in.

You know what they go for these days ?

I'm sure there's a guy on Reddit that'll know. (Jokes, of course.)

 

[DocM]

Everything is made incrementally better except the exhaust due to the GPF. I mean I’m all for the trees, koalas and polar bears, but couldn’t they make an exception for it ?