Artura [Official] 2021 McLaren Artura

[TopspeedPT]

Are those purely manufacturer claimed numbers? If not, I'll have to take issue with some of those.

Yes, all numbers are from McLaren except the 0-300Km/h for the 570S coupe.

 

[drifter1]

Yes, all numbers are from McLaren except the 0-300Km/h for the 570S coupe.

Their claimed times are a joke. Autobild got 8.5 to 200 km/h, 24.7 to 300 km/h and 10.46 in the 1/4 mile. For the 720S: 7.0, 18.x and 9.8 in the 1/4 mile.

 

[TopspeedPT]

This steering wheel design is getting old...

 

[WBarnes]

But to be fair, the 911 has changed less than that in twice as long.

 

[Giannis]

I like what I see, and after watching Catchpole's video, I am also impressed. The decision to keep the steering hydraulic is an honest and welcome one, though I doubt I'll ever lay my hands on one.

Those interiors, though, I still don't dig them. I find McLaren interiors cold and clinical.

 

[Centurion]

Unlike other Mclarens, the Artura comes with 5 instead of 3 years warranty. The battery has 6 years warranty.

It will have some impact on resale values but won't eliminate the anxiety of long diagnostic/repair lead times.

 

[drifter1]

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[WBarnes]

Unlike other Mclarens, the Artura comes with 5 instead of 3 years warranty. The battery has 6 years warranty.

It will have some impact on resale values but won't eliminate the anxiety of long diagnostic/repair lead times.

They're obviously confident about the reliability.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

They're obviously confident about the reliability.

The long warranty is to fight customers' prejudices and it's not a matter of confidence in the reliability. If your cars are absolutely bullet-proof they don't need a long warranty.

 

[Centurion]

The long warranty is to fight customers' prejudices and it's not a matter of confidence in the reliability. If your cars are absolutely bullet-proof they don't need a long warranty.

Yupp. Most cars except KIAs have 3 years warranty from new. 5 years warranty for thr Artura is an anomaly.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Yupp. Most cars except KIAs have 3 years warranty from new. 5 years warranty for thr Artura is an anomaly.

If the 5 year guarantee is new this is clearly an answer to all the quality problems they have had. But this is not enough, they MUST improve the reliability, the customers gets tired of going to the dealership to get the faults fixed all the time even if it is covered by the guarantee.

 

[WBarnes]

The long warranty is to fight customers' prejudices and it's not a matter of confidence in the reliability. If your cars are absolutely bullet-proof they don't need a long warranty.

I'm not so sure that's the case, warranty work costs money and if your car was bulletproof then why wouldn't you offer a 5 year warranty instead of a 3 year one?

 

[Levi68]

Ok, the first really new McLaren since the MP4-12C. While aesthetically this one does not look new, at least it looks good. And the tech progress is amazing. Like the 120° engine which is quite rare, wonder what they did to refine it. Amazing weight, MC20 is disappointing, should have weighed as little as a 911 GT3.

Compared to NSX and 911 Turbo S, it lacks AWD. Depends how important AWD is for prospect customer.

McLaren Artura: Approved by Levi.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Ok, the first really new McLaren since the MP4-12C. While aesthetically this one does not look new, at least it looks good. And the tech progress is amazing. Like the 120° engine which is quite rare, wonder what they did to refine it. Amazing weight, MC20 is disappointing, should have weighed as little as a 911 GT3.

Compared to NSX and 911 Turbo S, it lacks AWD. Depends how important AWD is for prospect customer.

McLaren Artura: Approved by Levi.

A 120 degrees v6 is as refined as a 60 degrees, because every 120 degrees occurs a firing. The problem is when the V6 is derived from a V8 and has the 90 degrees between the banks.

I'm not so sure that's the case, warranty work costs money and if your car was bulletproof then why wouldn't you offer a 5 year warranty instead of a 3 year one?

Because even with the bulletproof cars shit happens and this costs money when the car is still under warranty. But when a certain percentage of owners have suffered with issues it becomes a repeating problem, which destroys the reliability reputation of the product and a longer warranty is provided to counteract this.

 

[WBarnes]

Because even with the bulletproof cars shit happens and this costs money when the car is still under warranty. But when a certain percentage of owners have suffered with issues it becomes a repeating problem, which destroys the reliability reputation of the product and a longer warranty is provided to counteract this.

But if the car is reliable then the number of such incidents should be trivial.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

But if the car is reliable then the number of such incidents should be trivial.

Big warranty is never dictated by a good thing. It's either a name for bad reliability or a weak market position.

 

[WBarnes]

Big warranty is never dictated by a good thing. It's either a name for bad reliability or a weak market position.

So would a 6 month warranty indicate good reliability or a stronger market position?

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I love this car.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

So would a 6 month warranty indicate good reliability or a stronger market position?

No, because it would be illegal. First of all, all manufacturers should comply with the regulations and only then after to play with such marketing tools.

 

[DeDe]

21.5 seconds to 300 kph is very impressive, they claimed 21.4 for the 720S. We know that it was much quicker in reality (18.6-19.4), so maybe this is also a conservative number...