M3/M4 [Official] 2021 BMW M3 and M4 [G80 & G82]

[Frankie G]

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New BMW M3 CS 2023 review: an all-time great supersaloon

"After the brilliant M2 and M5 CS, last year’s M4 CSL promised greatness but ultimately failed to live up to the sum of its parts, the CSL treatment injecting compromise rather than engagement and thrills. The M3 CS is the polar opposite, with an approach that, like its cousins that have undergone a similar CS transformation, results in one of the most resolved and exciting cars of its type. An M3 Competition is a car that’s hard to knock; it remains the best in its class, and many will find the CS’s £34,000 premium difficult to stomach (which we get), but if you can and have gone for an M3 CS you’ve picked one of the all-time greats."

- Stuart Gallagher for Evo.

 

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"After the brilliant M2 and M5 CS, last year’s M4 CSL promised greatness but ultimately failed to live up to the sum of its parts, the CSL treatment injecting compromise rather than engagement and thrills. The M3 CS is the polar opposite, with an approach that, like its cousins that have undergone a similar CS transformation, results in one of the most resolved and exciting cars of its type. An M3 Competition is a car that’s hard to knock; it remains the best in its class, and many will find the CS’s £34,000 premium difficult to stomach (which we get), but if you can and have gone for an M3 CS you’ve picked one of the all-time greats."

- Stuart Gallagher for Evo.

Are you talking about this cute little thing?.....

 

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can't get over how bad it looks compared to the concept (or in general).

 

[SCOTT27]

We will never know how it drives. Unless the owner is brave enough to let some outlet drive it. I know of some requests being straight forward no’s. Even BMW have said no.

 

[advantage20]

can't get over how bad it looks compared to the concept (or in general).

Indeed a ghastly mash-up of two designs that are outstandingly cohesive on their own but mix together like oil and water. Reminds you of those toyish supercar replicas

Btw why is the rear wing fiberglass instead of carbon fiber?

PS: even the owner seems happy to be driving it in congested traffic, knowing it's nothing more than a fashionable transitional possession.

 

[manuelf]

"After the brilliant M2 and M5 CS, last year’s M4 CSL promised greatness but ultimately failed to live up to the sum of its parts, the CSL treatment injecting compromise rather than engagement and thrills. The M3 CS is the polar opposite, with an approach that, like its cousins that have undergone a similar CS transformation, results in one of the most resolved and exciting cars of its type. An M3 Competition is a car that’s hard to knock; it remains the best in its class, and many will find the CS’s £34,000 premium difficult to stomach (which we get), but if you can and have gone for an M3 CS you’ve picked one of the all-time greats."

- Stuart Gallagher for Evo.

To me it is obvious, why the "CS" moniker/ingredients work opposed to the "CSL":
The base ///M cars (M2/3/4/5) are very competent "sport limousines"! That was always the case with ///M! Since their base never was a full fledged sportscars, but sporty coupes/limousines, they succeeded in driving the basis to the maximum sportiness it is capable of.
The CS is still keeping this idea. And since it is only slightly compromising the daily-driving cxapabilities (less sound-deadining, less cabin storage ...) it fits the bill (and makes the CS even a bit more pure like the ///M 15 years ago).
With the CSL BMW has to leave the sporty-limousine zone and somehow take on the competition with full sportscars! There is nothing to win! (And please: Spare me the non-sense about "but the M3 CSL E46 achieved this back then ... it even challenged a 911 GT3"! The only reason is, that back then Porsche (and other full sportscar manufacturers) simply didn't do their homework, but failed miserably!)

 

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Btw why is the rear wing fiberglass instead of carbon fiber?

Got the answer from one of those Autobild videos posted on the other thread: the huge trunklid wing is actually made of carbon fiber, while the smaller roof spoiler is indeed made of fiberglass instead of carbon because it is connected to the sharkfin roof antenna and carbon would have shielded the signal too much.

 

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[SCOTT27]

That aftermarket grille is awful.

 

[dalab]

That aftermarket grille is awful.

Say it to all the "experts" in design who applauded the renders of the "fixes" that had to be done to the real thing, because it wasn't going to work lol

 

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[SCOTT27]

THE CS?