CLS-Class (C218) [Official] 2015 Mercedes-Benz CLS

[Pagani]

Sorry to say, but seeing the S Coupe has ruined the CLS forever for me. The interior clearly communicates the S from E divide, and the hind hump belongs to the last generation design. I understand there is a $50k difference between the two, but in a Mercedes, you are not supposed to feel underwhelmed.

 

[Zafiro]

you're so old its not even fun!

I'm so sorry I don't pretend to talk like I'm a hip hoper. Speak normal for Christmas sake, your from Gothenburg. I mean is titays a real word or did you make it up. And you know what really funny, I rated your post *Old*. Lets see if you find it funny.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Now now ladies...

 

[DJRaze99]

 

[LaArtist]

^he is right i agree
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btw @Just_me
You just want to eat ham and get shit faced on christmas, don't bring jesus into this..
I like Titays and coconuts whats your issue with that? Let me be.. Mods get this old ass man off my back haha

 

[ZicZachZo]

Some of you seem to be forgetting this is a face-lift. You know, a little nip tuck around the eyes. She went in for minor cosmetic surgery not a full body transplant.

 

[LaArtist]

^no no..they are used to the brutal life cycle impulses of BMWs..so they are forced to complain..

impulse my ass..its like connecting the tongue of a old dying person to a regular 4.5v battery..

 

[Merc1]

I have no idea what is being said here:

Remember the new CLS 400 model that is supposed to replace the CLS 350 in the refreshed CLS family? Well, as it turns out, the original press release concerning the model didn't have a typo in it, as we first believed.

For some unknown reason, Mercedes-Benz has decided to very quietly introduce an entirely new engine on the CLS facelift in both Coupe and Shooting Brake guise, because the new “400” models are not using the M276 DELA 30 powerplant as we initially thought it does.

Despite developing the exact same 333 hp and 480 Nm (354 lb ft) of torque as the M276 DELA 30 in the Mercedes-Benz E 400, this is not the same engine used on the E-Class.

Internally codenamed M276 DELA 35, the all-new V6 sports a 3.498 cc displacement compared with the 2996 cc of the M276 DELA 30 from the Mercedes-Benz E 400 and the recently-introduced SL 400 Roadster.

Since both the horsepower and the torque are identical between the two powerplants, one would inquire as to what exactly is the advantage of the larger one. Well, to answer that we have to look at another difference, which is brought by the much lower charging pressure of the 3.5-liter engine.

While the three-liter V6 has a rather high 1.8 bar (26.1 psi) charging pressure, the new 3.5-liter achieves the same power output with just 0.7 bar (10.2 psi) of charging pressure from the two turbochargers.

This results in the same power output but a slightly smaller fuel consumption, with the CLS 400 using just 10 liters of fuel per 100 km (23.5 mpg), while the E 400 has to make do with 10.4 liters per 100 km (22.6 mpg).

We don't have a clue yet if either the better fuel consumption figures or the more relaxed mode of operation is the main reason behind the existence of the all-new V6, but what is known for sure is that Mercedes-Benz didn't go to all the trouble to create a thorough press release for the engine - which is why we got all of the information above from the Germans from MB Passion.

On this tiny bombshell, we are now waiting to see if the upcoming C 450 Sport will use a modified variant of the three-liter or the 3.5-liter V6, but we will have to wait a few more months to find out.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/m...-all-new-v6-engine-on-cls-facelift-82786.html


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[Zafiro]

Some of you seem to be forgetting this is a face-lift. You know, a little nip tuck around the eyes. She went in for minor cosmetic surgery not a full body transplant.

That's exactly what I tell people when they complain at BMW facials. That's the whole point with a facelift. . But when Mercedes does then it's okay..
Geezer, the world is full of rotten people.

 

[Kilcrohane]

I have no idea what is being said here:

yep, it's thrown everyone - even the MB experts at MB Passion Blog:

http:///2014/06/der-cls-400-mit-333-ps-eine-andere-motorausfuehrung-als-im-e-400/

It seems the intent is to reduce CO2 emissions, compared to the 3.0l version.

China needs sub 3-litre for tax purposes. Elsewhere can use the 3.5-litre with lower emissions.

The CLS400's 3.5-litre engine develops its torque lower down. It is basically very lightly blown - just 0.7 bar.

Its combustion process is 'stratified' compared to the 3-litre's 'homogeneous'.

a summary, CLS400 v E400:

Der M276 E35DES LA des CLS 400 (218361) in der Modellpflege, Modelljahr 2015:
3.498 cm3 Hubraum
Nenndrehmoment 480 bei 1.200-4.000 u/min
92.9 mm Bohrung
86,0 mm Hub
Verdichtungsverhältnis 10.5:1
Gemischbildungsverfahren Benzin-Direkteinspritzung und Schichtbetrieb
V-Winkel in Grad: 60,0
Ladeüberdruck bei Volllast in bar: 0,70
Verbrauch: 10,0 l/100 km innerorts, 5.7 l/100 km außerorts, 7.3l/100 kombiniert
CO2 Emission: 169-170 g/km

Der M276 E30DEH LA des E 400 (212065) im Modelljahr 2014:
2.996 cm3 Hubraum
Nenndrehmoment 480 bei 1.600-4000 u/min
88,0 mm Bohrung
82.1 mm Hub
Verdichtungsverhältnis 10.5:1
Gemischbildungsverfahren Benzin-Direkteinspritzung und Homogenbetrieb
V-Winkel in Grad: 60,0
Ladeüberdruck bei Volllast in bar: 1,80
Verbrauch: 10.4-10.8l/100 innerorts, 5.8-6.2l/100 km außerorts, 7.5-7.9l/100 kombiniert
CO2 Emission: 175-185 g/km

 

[DJRaze99]

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

HVAC switchgear looking very dated. New C-Class blows this out the water.

It feels just as cheap and old as it looks.

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

I really like the new steering wheel.

 

[Rolf]

yep, it's thrown everyone - even the MB experts at MB Passion Blog:

http:///2014/06/der-cls-400-mit-333-ps-eine-andere-motorausfuehrung-als-im-e-400/

It seems the intent is to reduce CO2 emissions, compared to the 3.0l version.

China needs sub 3-litre for tax purposes. Elsewhere can use the 3.5-litre with lower emissions.

The CLS400's 3.5-litre engine develops its torque lower down. It is basically very lightly blown - just 0.7 bar.

Its combustion process is 'stratified' compared to the 3-litre's 'homogeneous'.

a summary, CLS400 v E400:

Der M276 E35DES LA des CLS 400 (218361) in der Modellpflege, Modelljahr 2015:
3.498 cm3 Hubraum
Nenndrehmoment 480 bei 1.200-4.000 u/min
92.9 mm Bohrung
86,0 mm Hub
Verdichtungsverhältnis 10.5:1
Gemischbildungsverfahren Benzin-Direkteinspritzung und Schichtbetrieb
V-Winkel in Grad: 60,0
Ladeüberdruck bei Volllast in bar: 0,70
Verbrauch: 10,0 l/100 km innerorts, 5.7 l/100 km außerorts, 7.3l/100 kombiniert
CO2 Emission: 169-170 g/km

Der M276 E30DEH LA des E 400 (212065) im Modelljahr 2014:
2.996 cm3 Hubraum
Nenndrehmoment 480 bei 1.600-4000 u/min
88,0 mm Bohrung
82.1 mm Hub
Verdichtungsverhältnis 10.5:1
Gemischbildungsverfahren Benzin-Direkteinspritzung und Homogenbetrieb
V-Winkel in Grad: 60,0
Ladeüberdruck bei Volllast in bar: 1,80
Verbrauch: 10.4-10.8l/100 innerorts, 5.8-6.2l/100 km außerorts, 7.5-7.9l/100 kombiniert
CO2 Emission: 175-185 g/km

I wonder if this 3.5ltr is a turbo version of the previous N/A 3498 cm3 engine that was available in the previous E350/C350 etc as that engine was also stratified if I am correct. The E400 V6 maybe is a turbo version of the same 3.0 V6 from the previous E300.

I am very curious why MB brought out this 3.5 Twin Turbo V6 when they already have the 3.0 Twin Turbo V6 that was just launched quite recently in the E-class and has spread to C-Class and also ML-Class.

I wonder if they will eventually spread this 3.5 engine around to replace the 3.0 engine!

 

[Rolf]

Both interior colour combinations looks fantastic! Not sure about that screen in the center, it looks a bit strange at the side angle.

 

[Kilcrohane]

I wonder if this 3.5ltr is a turbo version of the previous N/A 3498 cm3 engine that was available in the previous E350/C350 etc as that engine was also stratified if I am correct

Yes, I'd say it's definitely still the M276 3.5-litre engine, as that has a bore of 92.9 mm and a stroke of 86 mm. see here:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M_276

I am very curious why MB brought out this 3.5 Twin Turbo V6 when they already have the 3.0 Twin Turbo V6 that was just launched quite recently in the E-class and has spread to C-Class and also ML-Class

it could just be that the engineers have finally got the lean-burn, stratified-combustion original M276 to work with turbocharging, which gives them according to the specs above, slightly better fuel economy than the earlier 3-litre homogeneous-combustion turbo version, slightly lower CO2 emissions, and slightly better low-rev torque delivery.

I wonder if they will eventually spread this 3.5 engine around to replace the 3.0 engine!

you would think so given the better fuel economy, emissions and low-rev torque figures, but China surely will still require the 3-litre version for tax, and maybe this new version of the M276 is more expensive, so reserved to the higher-margin CLS.

 

[Wunderkind]

I wonder if this 3.5ltr is a turbo version of the previous N/A 3498 cm3 engine that was available in the previous E350/C350 etc as that engine was also stratified if I am correct. The E400 V6 maybe is a turbo version of the same 3.0 V6 from the previous E300.

I am very curious why MB brought out this 3.5 Twin Turbo V6 when they already have the 3.0 Twin Turbo V6 that was just launched quite recently in the E-class and has spread to C-Class and also ML-Class.

I wonder if they will eventually spread this 3.5 engine around to replace the 3.0 engine!

I think the 3.0 liter engine is for certain countries with very high first registration tax for cars with engine capacity over 3,000 cc as Kilcrohane said.

 

[ThroughandThrough]

Elegantly intimidating.

 

[tennmb]

Just a disgrace that they couldn't work in the touch pad.

 

[ThroughandThrough]

Tough crowd for a first post.