Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[Antti]

I think you're talking about the battery cooling grid.

I mean the circled area. It seems to house a parking sensors but it looks like there is a chunk of grille missing there.

 

[Swissbob]

I expect even a LFP with less power.

Most probably a 250 or 300 and 350.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I'm a bit confused. For example, the iX 60 and the iX M70 uses the same battery, but the more powerful M70 offers less range than the 60 variant. How does that work? What's causing the range loss in more powerful variants? This is the same across 3 Germans. Electric AMG's, Electric S models etc.

When you think about the power in kW and compare that to the battery's capacity in kWh it should become a bit more obvious.

Something with 300kW motors will consume more electricity than something with 200kW motors. If the battery is the same capacity, say 100kWh, then if you go full bore flat out you'll drain the battery in 20 minutes in the 300kW car, but you'll drain it in 30 minutes in the 200kW car.
We all know speed = distance/time. So multiply speed by time, and you'll get the distance.

This is all very simplistic, obviously, but in principle that's the physics of how range works.

Its no different to a more powerful ICE car draining a fuel tank faster than a less powerful one.

Also remember, power = torque x rpm x mathematical constant. This applies to EVs too. More powerful motors will have more torque, so they'll produce more power throughout the rev range of the motor, which means even at lower throttle inputs, its still draining more power from the battery than a less powerful motor would at that same throttle input. It would just be accelerating faster.

 

[McLaren64TR]

I mean the circled area. It seems to house a parking sensors but it looks like there is a chunk of grille missing there.

Okay, I get it now. Yes, that sensor compromised the overall integrity of the design. They could have hidden it there and installed this sensor.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I think this is the top one. They will probably show less powerful, cheaper versions as well, alongside the AMG version. I remember seeing the spy shots of it.

I can't imagine needing more than 483hp/360kW in a non-AMG version tbh. Its comfortably more than enough power. Comfortably. I'm sure a GLC 53 EQ will appear with 600+ as one might expect.

 

[Uygar]

When you think about the power in kW and compare that to the battery's capacity in kWh it should become a bit more obvious.

Something with 300kW motors will consume more electricity than something with 200kW motors. If the battery is the same capacity, say 100kWh, then if you go full bore flat out you'll drain the battery in 20 minutes in the 300kW car, but you'll drain it in 30 minutes in the 200kW car.
We all know speed = distance/time. So multiply speed by time, and you'll get the distance.

This is all very simplistic, obviously, but in principle that's the physics of how range works.

Its no different to a more powerful ICE car draining a fuel tank faster than a less powerful one.

Also remember, power = torque x rpm x mathematical constant. This applies to EVs too. More powerful motors will have more torque, so they'll produce more power throughout the rev range of the motor, which means even at lower throttle inputs, its still draining more power from the battery than a less powerful motor would at that same throttle input. It would just be accelerating faster.

Thanks for explaining mate

 

[Uygar]

I can't imagine needing more than 483hp/360kW in a non-AMG version tbh. Its comfortably more than enough power. Comfortably. I'm sure a GLC 53 EQ will appear with 600+ as one might expect.

I think cars, especially EV’s are getting ridiculously overpowered. Everything has over 1000HP nowadays. Like, how much of that power can you even use on a daily basis?

 

[advantage20]

Gentlemans

Is it true that the GLC is faster than the iX3. 4.9Sec compared to 4.3Sec.

I am a little bit surprised TBH.

Hasn't BMW proven to be a notorious bul$hitter over and over again when it comes to official acceleration figures? (E.g. the i4 M50 does the 0-60mph in 3.3s instead of the claimed 3.7s). The iX3 should get that figure down to 4.5s.

 

[klier]

I think this is the top one. They will probably show less powerful, cheaper versions as well, alongside the AMG version. I remember seeing the spy shots of it.

The basic spec interior with three screens behind shiny black bezel is going to be funny. Why? Because you're going to have to pay extra to use the passenger screen that comes standard in the car. Don't pay? Don't use. LMAO.

(not a joke)

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Hasn't BMW proven to be a notorious bul$hitter over and over again when it comes to official acceleration figures? (E.g. the i4 M50 does the 0-60mph in 3.3s instead of the claimed 3.7s). The iX3 should get that figure down to 4.5s.

Tbh, Mercedes also lie with their 0-100kmph times. As do Porsche. I think all German cars are pessimistic of their acceleration times to account for variables they can't control. Like ambient temperature, road temperature, tire temperature, road surface quality, wet/dry/damp etc. So they want to make sure they can get the time quoted even in the worst possible circumstances.

 

[Uygar]

The basic spec interior with three screens behind shiny black bezel is going to be funny. Why? Because you're going to have to pay extra to use the passenger screen that comes standard in the car. Don't pay? Don't use. LMAO.

(not a joke)

Looks like there are 3 different options. First one is the regular, second one is the SuperScreen and third one is the HyperScreen with the one single piece.
They basically want you to pay more to get the full experience.

 

[klier]

They basically want you to pay more to get the full experience.

MBUX Neuralink?

"Luxury without screens"

 

[advantage20]

Tbh, Mercedes also lie with their 0-100kmph times. As do Porsche. I think all German cars are pessimistic of their acceleration times to account for variables they can't control. Like ambient temperature, road temperature, tire temperature, road surface quality, wet/dry/damp etc. So they want to make sure they can get the time quoted even in the worst possible circumstances.

Can't attest to what other manufacturers are doing, but that's what the likes of Joe Achilles testing BMWs with timing equipment will sound like almost every single time: "As you can see, conditions aren't ideal, the road is slightly damp, we're on a typical British B road, the car isn't yet fully broken in, I'm 100kg, it's a full Moon, and yet here we are, half a second quicker than what BMW claim!"

 

[leylandi]

 

[klier]

Frunk is massive. Like twice as big as in the iX3.

It even has a little carpet on the floor! So cute.

So many oranges!

 

[leylandi]

 

[klier]

Front looks great grille and all.

But this very grille on a sedan will make it look like an Audi single frame, and I thought we were nearing the end of that.

 

[klier]

I mean the circled area. It seems to house a parking sensors but it looks like there is a chunk of grille missing there.

The whole illuminated part stops there simply because different countries/states have different sized license plates....or none at all in the front.

 

[Uygar]

Front looks great grille and all.

But this very grille on a sedan will make it look like an Audi single frame, and I thought we were nearing the end of that.

Now that I'm looking at it, it really does resemble the Audi single frame. What's next then, Audi to have kidney grilles or something?

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Frunk is massive. Like twice as big as in the iX3.

It even has a little carpet on the floor! So cute.

So many oranges!

Genuinely usable. You could get an extra cabin bag in that shit.