Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[Antti]

Am I the only one who is bothered by how the grille seems to be missing the bottom-most section? It looks unfinished. The frame is there but it looks like you could put your hand through the bottom section that is partially covered by the number plate. Why didn’t they fill it up like the rest of the grille? Or alternatively make the frame slightly smaller. Hopefully it’ll make more sense in person.

 

[Swissbob]

Gentlemans

Is it true that the GLC is faster than the iX3. 4.9Sec compared to 4.3Sec.

I am a little bit surprised TBH.

 

[McLaren64TR]

Give examples of BMW cars that are based on modern vehicle designs. I'm talking about a car with a central safety cage and passenger compartment, along with impact-resistant bulges at the front and rear. For example, the 1800, 2002, etc. Today's BMWs have continued on these foundations. No one cares about the BMW model you posted, and no one remembers them.

The weakness of your philosophical approach makes you see people as hypocritical. But the reality is very different from what you think.

It's my fault for trying to explain things to someone as opaque as you.

I present you with a historical fact, and you tell me to give a modern example.

 

[Uygar]

Gentlemans

Is it true that the GLC is faster than the iX3. 4.9Sec compared to 4.3Sec.

I am a little bit surprised TBH.

Yes, It's also a bit more powerful than the iX3. Around 30hp if I'm not mistaken.

 

[klier]

Yes, It's also a bit more powerful than the iX3. Around 30hp if I'm not mistaken.

I was led to believe that more powerful EVs also carry more range.

 

[leylandi]

It's my fault for trying to explain things to someone as opaque as you.

I present you with a historical fact, and you tell me to give a modern example.

My friend, the engine components of cars produced with this design style are also a major component of its brand. In those years, the possibilities were limited. So, the history of the car brand that produced these years has a large grille.
What would you think if Alfa Romeo did something like this? What comes to mind when you think of Alfa?

 

[Uygar]

It's my fault for trying to explain things to someone as opaque as you.

I present you with a historical fact, and you tell me to give a modern example.

Just ignore him. There's no way to win an argument with him, lol.

 

[klier]

No one cares about the BMW model you posted, and no one remembers them.

Like how no-one will remember you when you're permanently banned for ruining every thread with 5 year old troll posts.
Can't wait for that day. And it looks like to be on the horizon from what I can tell, so please carry on like you do. We'll manage for the time being.

(still love being on his ignore list)

Am I the only one who is bothered by how the grille seems to be missing the bottom-most section? It looks unfinished.

Not entirely sure what area you're referring to, but is it the license plate area perhaps?

 

[Uygar]

I was led to believe that more powerful EVs also carry more range.

Isn't it the opposite? Usually the less powerful models have the longer range. Or maybe it has to do with the batteries and how much they weigh, I don't really know.
For example the electric M models have less range than the regular ones (like iX 60 - M70, i4 40- M50)
It was the same with electric AMG's as well.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

This thread is just getting filled with the same BMW fan boys repeating the same thing over and over again about the GLC.

I think the the iX3 and the GLC EV represent a fantastic divergence of the two brands, and they are both putting their best feet forward. Its once again becoming an exciting time to be a fan of these brands.

I personally love the look of the GLC and I'm glad it looks a lot more like Mercedes traditional ICE offerings in its shape and sheetmetal. The bold grill is certainly an indication of a lot more daring designs to come, but keeping the same fluidity and cleaness that is sensual purity.

Im glad Mercedes isn't abandoning what is fundamentally a very strong design idiom that was just poorly implemented on the EVs. Its delivered two generations of stunning ICE cars, and this GLC EV shows there's more left in it.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I was led to believe that more powerful EVs also carry more range.

No, it just so happens that the more powerful variants also have bigger batteries. A kind of placebo effect.
More power means more battery drain.

Ultimately, the iX3 and GLC based on WLTP seem to have similar efficiency. But the bigger battery for the iX3 means it will go further. Real world comparisons will give us a better idea of how big the gap is, but 441 miles is 15% less than 500m miles, and 94kW is 15% smaller than 108kW.

 

[Antti]

Not entirely sure what area you're referring to, but is it the license plate area perhaps?

Yes the area underneath the licence plate and on either side of the licence plate. The frame is bigger than the grille, so to speak.

I’ve tried to catch some close-ups of that section in YouTube videos and it looks like it could scoop up lots of snow in the winter too. I don’t get that design choice

 

[McLaren64TR]

Am I the only one who is bothered by how the grille seems to be missing the bottom-most section? It looks unfinished. The frame is there but it looks like you could put your hand through the bottom section that is partially covered by the number plate. Why didn’t they fill it up like the rest of the grille? Or alternatively make the frame slightly smaller. Hopefully it’ll make more sense in person.

I think you're talking about the battery cooling grid.

 

[jphcbpa]

Gentlemans

Is it true that the GLC is faster than the iX3. 4.9Sec compared to 4.3Sec.

I am a little bit surprised TBH.

BMW will offer an m60 trim with probably 600 hp

 

[Uygar]

No, it just so happens that the more powerful variants also have bigger batteries. A kind of placebo effect.
More power means more battery drain.

Ultimately, the iX3 and GLC based on WLTP seem to have similar efficiency. But the bigger battery for the iX3 means it will go further. Real world comparisons will give us a better idea of how big the gap is, but 441 miles is 15% less than 500m miles, and 94kW is 15% smaller than 108kW.

I'm a bit confused. For example, the iX 60 and the iX M70 uses the same battery, but the more powerful M70 offers less range than the 60 variant. How does that work? What's causing the range loss in more powerful variants? This is the same across 3 Germans. Electric AMG's, Electric S models etc.

 

[Swissbob]

Less efficiency of the bigger motors.

 

[Uygar]

BMW will offer an m60 trim with probably 600 hp

There are already spy shots of it actually. It gets the classic M setup too where the front and rear wheels are different sizes.

 

[klier]

Have MB presented the top (non AMG if that even comes) version already?

 

[Swissbob]

AMG will come.

I guess the 400 is the top non AMG.

 

[Uygar]

Have MB presented the top (non AMG if that even comes) version already?

I think this is the top one. They will probably show less powerful, cheaper versions as well, alongside the AMG version. I remember seeing the spy shots of it.