Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[Rolf]

It all makes much sense. As normal looking, more advanced EVs start being available, the older, turd-looking ones are phased out.

I bet MB would like to do the same with the EQS range.

Personally, I think they would prefer to get rid of the EQS models but due to the longer wait for the S-class ICE and EV replacement in 2028/2029, they need an electric car to still fill in that gap for reducing the emissions in this luxury class level. So, for 2 years the FL or MOPF EQS and EQS SUV will be in that sector and its good at least it will get updated EV tech with 800V, faster charging, smaller and more compact electric motors and a more efficient battery pack. The EQS should be able to have over 900km EV range in its MOPF updates with 20min or less charging for 10% to 80%.

 

[Merc1]

They seem to be good EVs, but the styling, price and quality just didn't add up to buyers. I've asked a few people I've seen here and there with EQS sedans and EQE SUVs, and they love the cars. Really interesting.

M

 

[Rolf]

They seem to be good EVs, but the styling, price and quality just didn't add up to buyers. I've asked a few people I've seen here and there with EQS sedans and EQE SUVs, and they love the cars. Really interesting.

M

The EQE and EQS models have received good reviews from motoring journalists for the way they drive, their refinement and comfort and their EV range. I think it's mostly the styling that turns people off and the quality of the interior is not stellar and up to the ICE models. The EQS has been criticized for its back seat not providing the usual comfort of an S-class especially that it lacks the stretch out heavy rake adjustment seats and space.

 

[TATE]

Artificial inteligente pic I am afraid

 

[Design FIRST]

Personally, I think they would prefer to get rid of the EQS models but due to the longer wait for the S-class ICE and EV replacement in 2028/2029, they need an electric car to still fill in that gap for reducing the emissions in this luxury class level. So, for 2 years the FL or MOPF EQS and EQS SUV will be in that sector and its good at least it will get updated EV tech with 800V, faster charging, smaller and more compact electric motors and a more efficient battery pack. The EQS should be able to have over 900km EV range in its MOPF updates with 20min or less charging for 10% to 80%.

Mercedes-Benz is deeply rooted in engineering prowess and cutting edge innovation. In these particular aspects, it remains a formidable automotive force. Sadly, it has it's assorted episodes of stumbling regarding material and assembly quality inside and out, questionable design inside and out and the occasional electronics niggles. Not to mention, at times, very poor advertising. On paper, the tech qualities of the EQS are very impressive. It is clear where this car has faltered and eventually...failed. It is also testimony to the major significance of sound, eye pleasing design and how it is presented in a compelling, tasteful manner. It should be ALL about THE VEHICLE. Not "agendas", celebrities or self-promotion of corporate executives.

 

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[Rolf]

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I hope that the GLE doesn't receive a copy past interior of the EQE/EQS or E-class. It would be great to see some fresh design for this and the GLS interior. They need to stand out from the rest of the line up with cutting edge tech and distinguished interior with finer materials.

Mercedes-Benz is deeply rooted in engineering prowess and cutting edge innovation. In these particular aspects, it remains a formidable automotive force. Sadly, it has it's assorted episodes of stumbling regarding material and assembly quality inside and out, questionable design inside and out and the occasional electronics niggles. Not to mention, at times, very poor advertising. On paper, the tech qualities of the EQS are very impressive. It is clear where this car has faltered and eventually...failed. It is also testimony to the major significance of sound, eye pleasing design and how it is presented in a compelling, tasteful manner. It should be ALL about THE VEHICLE. Not "agendas", celebrities or self-promotion of corporate executives.

I agree with you, Mercedes is still a force to be reckoned with the latest car safety, powertrain and in car electronic systems, but their design and interior quality have seen some weaknesses in the last 2 generations of cars. Their reliability also seems to have taken a back seat in recent models. Its understandable they need to monitor their costs and profits, but it mustn't come at the expense of the core things of Mercedes that makes them stand out from cheaper cars, their unburstable quality, comfort and refinement. If these are compromised, then other brands will definitely take advantage and ultimately the 3-pointed star will be the losing team and be responsible of their own stupid mistakes.

 

[Tuffode]

Mercedes-Benz is deeply rooted in engineering prowess and cutting edge innovation. In these particular aspects, it remains a formidable automotive force.

Maybe 20 years ago, not so much now.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Maybe 20 years ago, not so much now.

The engineering is still top notch, I don't think you can really argue that. The electromechanical and safety systems are very advanced. They have however, pointed their engineering might in questionable directions.

 

[Esp5]

 

[Merc1]

It still looks like an economy car to me.

M

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I dunno. It looks alright. The profile is kind of like an older A5 or F-generation 4-grancoupe.

The devil is in the details. Interested to see how this comes together

 

[Merc1]

When do we see it?

M

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

When do we see it?

M

No clue. I would have thought IAA next week, but not sure if that's just GLC or not. We shall see

 

[Design FIRST]

Maybe 20 years ago, not so much now.

IMHO, "the spirit" remains pronounced within the realms of M-B payrolled researchers/developers, engineers and production line staff. However, that very "spirit" has been obstructed and often dismantled by elevated corporate bean counters in tandem with some myopic public relations people. This is nothing new. It is not that long ago that German media presented numerous accounts of anger and frustration directed at Jürgen Schrempp & Co. and Daimler-Benz AG (Daimler Chrysler AG) by the company's employees. Herr Källenius is on the fast track to filling those dubious shoes left by Herr Schrempp. Herr Schrempp and Dr. Reuter became vicitims of their own megalomania. Ola Källenius simply appears totally lost.