Xpeng Xpeng next-gen P7

[Design FIRST]

At least in terms of design, this is looking impressive.

Xpeng's next-gen P7 breaks cover: new design & tech to challenge Tesla

Xpeng’s new P7, featuring a cyberpunk-inspired design, pure vision-based ADAS, and a possible hatchback trunk, aims to revitalize the brand’s EV lineup in late 2025

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[Design FIRST]

The pre-production prototypes present great proportions and an imposing stance:

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This could prove to be a headache for the (repeatedly delayed-now scheduled for official presentation of this years IAA Mobility in Munich) upcoming Polestar 5. And not only the Polestar 5, for that matter.

 

[J.E]

I've always regarded Europeans as intelligent, but the way how Europeans are so f#cking smitten with Chinese BEVs makes my estimation for Europeans as intelligent people just effing plummet.

That thing above is just an electric heap of tofu dreg on wheels with inbuilt CCP spying device to snitch your every move to the Chinese government. And eventually it's going to catch fire for absolute no reason at all.

 

[Design FIRST]

I've always regarded Europeans as intelligent, but the way how Europeans are so f#cking smitten with Chinese BEVs

Actually, "inquisitive" rather than "smitten" would be more accurate. Despite the significant coverage of Chinese EVs in the European automotive media, these vehicles are, at least in Germany, finding surprisingly few customers. Very few, in fact. General new registrations for EVs are on the rise however. And the main beneficiaries are indeed European manufacturers. Here in Germany, especially the Volkswagen group.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

This ought to have been the 3rd gen Audi A7. Really handsome car but there's a massive red flag that comes with this car that I'd find prohibitive.

 

[Design FIRST]

If anything, it can be appreciated by virtue of it's super-clean, very precise, no b.s. design:

 

[KiwiRob]

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I've always regarded Europeans as intelligent, but the way how Europeans are so f#cking smitten with Chinese BEVs makes my estimation for Europeans as intelligent people just effing plummet.

That thing above is just an electric heap of tofu dreg on wheels with inbuilt CCP spying device to snitch your every move to the Chinese government. And eventually it's going to catch fire for absolute no reason at all.

Someone should report you for abject stupidity.

 

[Giannis]

I've always regarded Europeans as intelligent, but the way how Europeans are so f#cking smitten with Chinese BEVs makes my estimation for Europeans as intelligent people just effing plummet.

That thing above is just an electric heap of tofu dreg on wheels with inbuilt CCP spying device to snitch your every move to the Chinese government. And eventually it's going to catch fire for absolute no reason at all.

I'm sure you won't get it, but here it goes.

The guy who lives next door is a web designer, makes 1.5 to 2.0k a month (which is quite good money for where I live) and at 35 is about to start a family. He has to travel a few times a month to his home town for personal reasons. He had an old Lancia Y, which spent more time in the shop than on the road. He needed a new car.

A new Clio starts from 19.400€. A new Yaris from 21.600€. He got a BYD for 21.500€. It's a segment above, it's got a descent interior, 204 hp (100 more than the other two), costs less to tax, to run and to maintain and it's full of gizmos and equipment that the other two do not have. Do you fault him?

European products have become quite expensive lately. European wages have not followed the same trend. We struggle to find, let alone afford to rent, a descent house. We can't afford to pay a fortune for cars.

Or, in just two words, blame capitalism.

 

[Design FIRST]

If the exterior design of the P7 represents a specific paradigm,, it is most certainly that of clean, unadultrated and modern execution . No gimmickry, no B.S.

 

[SCOTT27]

It’s very Polestar 5-ish. Almost like the car is delayed but here is our interpretation ahead of the actual car.

 

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Very interesting to say the least. Intriguingly "spacy", modern and so clean. It looks to be meticulously assembled and the interior materials appear to be of high quality. No idea whether this will ever make it to the EU markets, but I'd love to see one in an "on the streets, in traffic" environment. And how it would visually measure up with other vehicles on the road.

 

[Design FIRST]

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Some bits of design analysis as well as socalled "beauty shots". Darker, glossy hues and the open bicolor 21" rims make the design "pop". Also, a "Range Roveresque/Pininfarina Pininesque" floating roof.

In a remote way, this sort of reminds me of when cars such as the Citröen ID/DS and it's CX successor were presented. They made most anything on the roads appear "old".

 

[Rolf]

This car has a sophisticated, simplified, elegant yet futuristic design that could have quite an impact when parked next to traditional saloons. The attention to detail for the interior and the infotainment looks good. The only thing is the interior has that Tesla clone look with the size and positioning of the central screen and phone wireless charging pads. This is where the German premium trio gives some food for thought with their different layouts and interfaces. The electric powertrain tech on this car is in another league compared to the latest Germans, as it can provide 525km of range in only 10min of DC charging. Compare that to the latest CLA and iX3 (both about 350km in 10min) and it shows a substantial lead in this area of electric usability.

The Chinese car industry are stepping up at a frightening speed and the Germans will have to act quickly or they will be left far behind.

 

[Design FIRST]

I haven't the slightest clue as to whether this is a genuinely "excellent" car. I haven't the slightest clue as to whether it will ever reach the EU markets. But man...it's design has patently blown me away !:

 

[Esp5]

as it can provide 525km of range in only 10min of DC charging. Compare that to the latest CLA and iX3 (both about 350km in 10min).

In the CLTC cycle (Chinese) vs WLTP for the CLA and iX3 .
CLTC is approximately 20%/25% lower vs WLTP

Comparing them to the same cycle, the CLA and the iX3 both have considerably more autonomy.

 

[Design FIRST]

This car cannot stop blowing me away:

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[SCOTT27]

The Polestar 5 you can buy today.

 

[Design FIRST]

The Polestar 5 you can buy today.

...although I suspect that the performance figures of the Polestar 5 will be more impressive. And the Sino-Swede will surely be FAR more expensive. But will the Polestar 5 make an impact on the market ? Media is reporting that interest as well as order flow for the Xpeng is very high.

 

[Design FIRST]

Inspired by the design of the 1974 Bitter Opel Diplomat CD ? :

"I just knew that I know you from somewhere !"

 

[tristatez28lt1]

The Polestar 5 you can buy today.

almost what i wanted to say except that this one might be the better looker and certainly the better seller. This will be an interesting comparison test