F-Type Jaguar's F-Type Coupé - First Drives - EVO, Autocar etc.

[klugscheisser87]

Looking at the ukraine presidents house i can imagine that somwhere in the east of europe people could like the design of current jags. Calling the XJ the best looking sedan he must be just a troll here, sorry but when i see the bulky side line and the korean looking rear even the Phaeton looks more classy. Going back to the F-Type, about its design when i saw it for the first time i thought it's an entry level sporty vehicle with some little design influences from the e-type that was meant to compete with the TT or the Z4, it looks too brave and already too outdated for the real competition. I hope maserati will make the Alifieri into production, so the f-type will lose its scene definitely, but i'm sure it will happen already when the SLC will be finally unveiled. Talking about design it's a very subjective thing, but i really don't see anything exciting in Jaguars current linup. They wanted so much to make the F-type looking as beautiful as the old E-Type, IMO the problem about the 2 cars is when Jag introduced the E-type it was a sports car for the masses with a design of a super car and with the F-type they did a completely opposite, thy made a great sport car with a look for the masses:S

 

[Giannis]

The biggest reason I can find for me to choose an F-Type over a Cayman, is that everyone and his mother has a Porsche these days. Driving something "rare" is a nice feeling.

Personally, even though an S60 is nothing to brag about, it's a very rare sight around here, which I quite enjoy. Add to that, that mine was the only beige sold in the area, it's quite unique. Had I been driving a 3er or a C, it would be just another 3er (or C) in the hundreds that drive around my area.

 

[KiwiRob]

No problem, just know that the XJ sells less than ALL of the cars it competes with. What you see on the street means nothing when the actual sales figures are looked at.

M

I know that but I don't care, at least when you are driving your XJ the great unwashed aren't going to be confusing it for anything else, unlike many who won't see much difference between an S or C or a 7 and a 3.

 

[rollo]

Are the F coupes available in the states yet?

 

[KiwiRob]

Add to that, that mine was the only beige sold in the area, it's quite unique.

Would that be German taxi beige?

 

[Giannis]

Would that be German taxi beige?

No. For a picture of it, click here: http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/merry-christmas-happy-new-year.50030/#post-675311

Then again, I only used this example to add an emphasis to my opinion, which is not a good enough reason to add yet another off topic post into this thread. So, let's stick to the F-Type, now, shall we?

 

[Deckhook]

Calling the XJ the best looking sedan he must be just a troll here, sorry but when i see the bulky side line and the korean looking rear even the Phaeton looks more classy.

I wouldn't call it the best looking but it most definitely is the most unique and far more elegant and sporty looking than an A8, 7 and S-class.

Going back to the F-Type, about its design when i saw it for the first time i thought it's an entry level sporty vehicle with some little design influences from the e-type that was meant to compete with the TT or the Z4, it looks too brave and already too outdated for the real competition.

You seriously thought the F-Type was to compete with the TT and Z4. Up to that point I was taking your post as serious but I now know you're posting solely to get a reaction so will ignore everything else you wrote.

 

[klugscheisser87]

I wouldn't call it the best looking but it most definitely is the most unique and far more elegant and sporty looking than an A8, 7 and S-class.



You seriously thought the F-Type was to compete with the TT and Z4. Up to that point I was taking your post as serious but I now know your posting solely to get a reaction so will ignore everything else you wrote.

Sorry, but i don't see anything sporty and elegant in that bulky body shape.
Well, i see you didn't read well what was the point, before i knew anything about the F-type, based on its look i thougt it was an entry level jag to compete with TT and Z4 DESIGNWISE, understood?

 

[Sayyaaf]

I am speechless. Someone apparently missed Logic, Probabilities/Statistics and most importantly, Drugs-awareness classes



Jag is better because XJs sells more in Russia.

 

[Merc1]

I know that but I don't care, at least when you are driving your XJ the great unwashed aren't going to be confusing it for anything else, unlike many who won't see much difference between an S or C or a 7 and a 3.

Yeah it would be pretty hard to confuse a XJ for a smaller Jaguar sedan, oh wait they don't have one do they! Not Mercedes and BMW's fault Jaguar lacks a proper lineup.

M

 

[Deckhook]

Sorry, but i don't see anything sporty and elegant in that bulky body shape.
Well, i see you didn't read well what was the point, before i knew anything about the F-type, based on its look i thougt it was an entry level jag to compete with TT and Z4 DESIGNWISE,
understood?

I get it you dislike Jag as a brand and the F-Type but I can't see how you class its design as already outdated especially when we have the 911 which is a design dating back more than 40 years and the Boxster/Cayman design is basically unchanged since it came out as is the TT both of which have been around for 14-16 years. Sure these designs are far more outdated than a car that only just released?

 

[Sunny]

Sure these designs are far more outdated than a car that only just released?

Some designs are timeless. Some not. A good pair of men's trousers has been around for ever. The "thing" on the right is relatively new. Just cause something is "just released" doesn't automatically make it less outdated.

 

[klugscheisser87]

I get it you dislike Jag as a brand and the F-Type but I can't see how you class its design as already outdated especially when we have the 911 which is a design dating back more than 40 years and the Boxster/Cayman design is basically unchanged since it came out as is the TT both of which have been around for 14-16 years. Sure these designs are far more outdated than a car that only just released?

I know you find it strange, but there are many details that bothers me about the F-Type, its boring, soft front end and those overdesigned rearlights, IMO the side profile makes it look like a shrunken retro E-Type while all the old beautiful proportions are gone, the lower and at the same time longer looking XKR looks more upscale and sleeker, designwise the F-Type looks like its smaller entry level brother, but as i said, design and taste are subjective things. Outdated, yes there is nothing about this car that makes it look as new as it is. Well about the 911 it's a different story, it's a legend with legendary styling that's alive since over 40 years, but the e-type went into history, i don't think that the design of the new f-type deserve to be compared to the legendary e-type. Don't forget that the Cayman, TT and hmm somehow the Z4 are entry level sport cars of their brands, that's why their design i find really good, here why i find the design of the F-type at the same entry level, it just doesn't look to me as a car that wants to compete with the 911, R8, not even to mention the SLS of course. I know we all have different tastes, i might be wrong, it's just how i see it.

 

[Deckhook]

^^Maybe, maybe not, its in the eye of the beholder as to whether a design is timeless or not but I'm sure the drivetrain layout is more the controlling factor for the 911's design. Anyway I don't believe this argument will be settled because you either like the F-Type design or you don't.

^Please don't mention the SLS as an example of a timeless design.lol

 

[Deckhook]

Yeah it would be pretty hard to confuse a XJ for a smaller Jaguar sedan, oh wait they don't have one do they! Not Mercedes and BMW's fault Jaguar lacks a proper lineup.

M

This will be addressed soon at which point we might say the baby Jag looks similar to its big brothers.

 

[Sunny]

I'm sure the drivetrain layout is more the controlling factor for the 911's design.

So you are saying the 911s rear engine layout is responsible for the signature round headlights? The sloping nose? The relatively upright windscreen? The sloping roof? Or for that matter even the sloping rear deck (they could just as easily use a squared off deck)? Porsche is sticking to the design cause that is what people like and want, they even tried to change the headlights and we all know what happened - the most disliked 911 of all time. The only thing the rear engine layout dictates is the relatively long rear overhang. So again, you are wrong.

Anyway I don't believe this argument will be settled because you either like the F-Type design or you don't.

It is got nothing to do with liking or not liking the F type (I am pretty luke warm to it) but you inane comment that something that is newer means it's design is somehow magically less outdated than something older.

 

[KiwiRob]

Yeah it would be pretty hard to confuse a XJ for a smaller Jaguar sedan, oh wait they don't have one do they! Not Mercedes and BMW's fault Jaguar lacks a proper lineup.

M

The XF doesn't look anything like the XJ.

I'm sure the drivetrain layout is more the controlling factor for the 911's design.

Are you sure about that chief? All of these have rear engines and none look like a 911.

 

[Deckhook]

So you are saying the 911s rear engine layout is responsible for the signature round headlights? The sloping nose? The relatively upright windscreen? The sloping roof? Or for that matter even the sloping rear deck (they could just as easily use a squared off deck)? Porsche is sticking to the design cause that is what people like and want, they even tried to change the headlights and we all know what happened - the most disliked 911 of all time. The only thing the rear engine layout dictates is the relatively long rear overhang. So again, you are wrong.

I don't agree that only the rear overhang has been controlled by its layout. It is a sports coupe after all.

It is got nothing to do with liking or not liking the F type (I am pretty luke warm to it) but you inane comment that something that is newer means it's design is somehow magically less outdated than something older.

Of course not all new designs are less outdated but IMO the F-Type isn't an out of date design, it's been penned by the man who designed the Aston Martin DB9, someone I rate extremely highly.

 

[Sunny]

I don't agree that only the rear overhang has been controlled by its layout. It is a sports coupe after all.

Explain what else do you think is controlled by it's rear engine layout?

 

[Sayyaaf]

Tesla is rear engined.

So is 2series in reverse

There is a reason this car is called F-type Ok I need to stop.

Kind Regards.
F-Guy.