Smartphones iPhone 8 & X


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Practically, I think losing Touch ID is the biggest let-down of the iphone X. There are quite a number of apps that have adopted Touch ID as the authentication method and Apple decides to remove it. There were rumours of an on-screen touch ID sensor but that didn't materialise. It is also reported to be more complex to use than other iphones with a home button. I'm using a 6s and I get why people get iphones and not androids, but when they keep making life more difficult for users, to a point i can safely say I do not want a iphone X anymore (i really don't think i'll accept using Face ID instead as it is now for Apple Pay). And, i don't think they are in a position to have the world fully adapting to their "standards" like the old days - with so many viable competitors now.

I never bought iphones for its superior hardware specs, but for the way it does what it does in a very reliable and safe manner. And i have to say having an iphone is nearly like having a nice piece of well built, good looking and high quality accessory, whereas an android device is a piece of electronic device period. It's probably like wearing a luxury brand Swiss watch, vs wearing some other watches.

Although Face ID has yet to prove itself, I think its reliability and accuracy will improve very quickly. Touch ID wasn't perfect on the iPhone 5S but became faster with subsequent iterations of the iPhone and iOS updates.
 
Although Face ID has yet to prove itself, I think its reliability and accuracy will improve very quickly. Touch ID wasn't perfect on the iPhone 5S but became faster with subsequent iterations of the iPhone and iOS updates.

The technology behind FaceID is pretty ground breaking. If we look beyond unlocking the phone, I foresee FaceID playing a far bigger role in AR (Augmented Reality) and spatial mapping applications.

When I think back to the fingerprint sensor on the 5S, I assumed it was just for unlocking the phone, but with software updates, it later evolved into authentication for banking, password managers, sending money, etc. The same will happen with FaceID.

While there is no proof of this, I'm fairly certain that FaceID is a culmination of Apple acquiring Primesense in 2013 (Same company that developed Kinect for the Microsoft Xbox). FaceID is essentially a shrunken down Kinect Sensor with far greater accuracy in a significantly smaller footprint which is pretty incredible.

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Apple is definitely using some form of machine learning to train FaceID how to identify the contours on faces with all the data processing happening on the phone in milliseconds instead of happening in the cloud.

The other big feature is AR Kit. Even though iOS 11 only went live yesterday, there's lots of cool AR demos and apps that developers are working on.

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If you combine the software of FaceID, AR Kit, WatchOS with the hardware of Apple Airpods and the LTE Watch, Apple has the groundwork laid out for some type of untethered AR wearable (a la google glass) that we will likely see within the next 2 years. Unlike google glass, when this AR device arrives, it will already have a thriving ecosystem of apps which the developers are building today.
 
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Yeah. Apple's packaging of the true depth camera is very impressive. I wonder whether they will give developers access to it for creation of facial motion capture, 3D scanning, putting an iPhone by a door and grant employees entry if their face is in the database etc.

The ability to measure things using AR is very useful but I'm a bit doubtful whether Apple will revive public interest in AR. It's been around for sometimes and even gained some headlines with Pokemon go, but has never progressed past "show-off-to-friends-and-forget" usage.

FaceID is a first generation proof-of-concept technology for Apple and I expect the technology to be extended to the rear camera with powerful use-cases. Hence why I won't buy iPhone X but will wait for Apple to mature the technology in next year's phone.
 

People always bang on about how Apple are far behind Samsung when it comes to the specs of the phones. If that's the case then it's quite an achievement for Samsung to actually sell less than Apple. Samsung should really have a look at what they're doing wrong.

Samsung half as much revenue in 2016 vs Apple.
Samsung introduced 10 times as many phones as Apple last year, but its mobile division made half as much revenue

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Apple beats Samsung in smartphone sales, reports record quarter | News | DW | 01.02.2017
 
People always bang on about how Apple are far behind Samsung when it comes to the specs of the phones. If that's the case then it's quite an achievement for Samsung to actually sell less than Apple. Samsung should really have a look at what they're doing wrong.

Samsung half as much revenue in 2016 vs Apple.
Samsung introduced 10 times as many phones as Apple last year, but its mobile division made half as much revenue

Apple beats Samsung
Apple beats Samsung in smartphone sales, reports record quarter | News | DW | 01.02.2017

Seriously? .... Come on dude.

This was the first time since 2011 that Apple outsold Samsung....hmm, I wonder why. Answer: the Note 7 battery fiasco.

This was a one-off year for Samsung, not an overall trend.
 
What a joke. The new iPhone 10 runs circles around an S6.

Seriously, this is like a noob looking at car specs and judging it car by it's 0-100km/h time.....

This is done everytime a new iPhone comes to market. I see a lot of S6s, in my family we have 2, a member of my family owns a S8 Plus, there is a S6 Plus as well... They are all pretty much the same, in the same way iPhones are very similar among each other. I can see how having an OLED display was key for Samsung, but this new iPhone has the features Samsung will probably try yo copy on their next phone, just as they did with most of their stuff, from design to stuff such as the Touch ID. Which is no drama to me either. Happens every day on every industry.

There is one are Apple clearly leads which is procesing power. Leave alone that silly MacBook Pro comparison. The iPhone X crushes the Galaxy S8, which came to makret 5 months ago.
 
Apple and Samsung have one of the strangest relationships in the tech industry. Despite all the litigation and hatred between the two, they are also both entirely dependent on one another. Classic example of how profit can drive you to jump into bed with your biggest enemy.

To be fair, iphones would not be as popular without Samsung as it is the only company that is capable of supplying the components at the scale that Apple needs. OLED screens, ARM processors and RAM modules that have gone into many generations of Apple products have all come from Samsung.

There definitely is a double standard in the media to say Samsung copies Apple, however when Samsung puts out novel technology years ahead of Apple, it is never said that Apple copied Samsung.

- Samsung created the big screen phone, kickstarting the entire industry of large screen phones.
- Samsung was first to create OLED displays on phones/wearables.
- Samsung brought Wireless Qi charging to the masses in 2014.
- Samsung was the first to offer stylus devices on mobile devices (long before the Apple pencil).
- Same goes for curved screen phones, waterproofing, etc.

IMO, Samsung's prowess lies in hardware innovation while Apple's is more on the software side.
 
IMO, Samsung's prowess lies in hardware innovation while Apple's is more on the software side.

The hardware innovation really comes from the Dutch, who make the hardware to make the hardware :D

And even then, the hardware Apple does actually make is really, really good.
 
Their software works very well because of their integration advantage, they also have good ergonomics.
 
Apple's ecosystem just might be the top reason consumer retention is very high.

These past few weeks I've been researching both Androids and the new iPhone's as my the Iphone 6S replacement, and even with all the lectures I've received about how some Samsungs, HTC's, etc. are technically superior... I'm still leaning iPhone. But that's just me.
 
What a joke. The new iPhone 10 runs circles around an S6.

Seriously, this is like a noob looking at car specs and judging it car by it's 0-100km/h time.....



Not just OS, but the hardware simply is vastly different.
People who actually think an iPhone is as fast/good as a Macbook Pro are in for a severe letdown.

Not really Klier. While i do agree that it is a bit childish it is merely to illustrate that Apple are always late to the party when offering the latest technology available. Instead they try to focus on what they can offer on their newest phones even if it means offering something that is already in use by the competition but a first for Apple and then re branding as something they invented.
 
Not really Klier. While i do agree that it is a bit childish it is merely to illustrate that Apple are always late to the party when offering the latest technology available. Instead they try to focus on what they can offer on their newest phones even if it means offering something that is already in use by the competition but a first for Apple and then re branding as something they invented.

I was talking about the proccessing power of the X, which is unmatched by any phone, let alone some 2-3 year old phone.

Not so much lately. Many "new" features on the iOS are snatched from Android.

Android itself is what's the ripoff. All the tiny differences are at gimmick level.
 
I was talking about the proccessing power of the X, which is unmatched by any phone, let alone some 2-3 year old phone.



Android itself is what's the ripoff. All the tiny differences are at gimmick level.

IOS is also a rip off. Most of the IOS and Android stuff was copied from preexisting technologies.
 

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