296 [2021-] [Hot!] Ferrari 296 GTB - New V6 Hybrid Supercar for 2022

[Jo_Sta7]

Finally the weather has broke

 

[martinbo]

F#ck me. What a car.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I was reading through some old tests and it’s crazy to my the Veyron SS and the 296 have almost identical acceleration.

 

[Centurion]

That's even up to 200km/h. maddness.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

even up to 300 basically

 

[Centurion]

even up to 300 basically

I would not have expected that. Usually sports or super cars start running out of puff beyond 120mph/200kmh.

where do we go from here? Will cars be able to do 200kmh in 3 seconds in ten years time? We will inevitably reach the limits of tyre or road conditions. Racing cars can usually go fast safely because tyres are brand new, heated, track is warm and driver knows how to drive the car responsibly.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I would not have expected that. Usually sports or super cars start running out of puff beyond 120mph/200kmh.

where do we go from here? Will cars be able to do 200kmh in 3 seconds in ten years time? We will inevitably reach the limits of tyre or road conditions. Racing cars can usually go fast safely because tyres are brand new, heated, track is warm and driver knows how to drive the car responsibly.

So my sports car journey started with a BMW i8 10 years ago. Very underrated car. I loved it. I’d still get one. It was punchy but certainly nothing by today standards. However 100 in 4.2 and 200 in 14/15 seconds isn’t anything to sneeze at and the car feels quick. From there, I had an Acura NSX. Big step up in performance. Then a Ferrari 458, another step up. Then a 458 Speciale. Basically even but again now we’re mid 3’s to 100 and around 10/11 seconds to 200.

But then, 765, and boom. High 2s to 100 and 7 to 200 and I’ll tell you, the difference is dramatic and feels a lot for the street. I still get scared driving it. I don’t think cars ever need to be quicker than a 765. They aren’t more enjoyable any quicker than that and in the states 50-250 km/h is kind of all that matters for acceleration and you’ll only be above 200 for a few seconds before braking.

I’ve had the pleasure of having seat time in a lot of amazing cars and owning others since I got my 765. Veyrons, Chirons, Hauyras, 918, P1, LAF, etc. The 765 is as violent or more so than any of these in usable acceleration for a mere fraction of the cost. The 296 on paper pulls neck and neck with the 765. I’m not sure about it in person. It’s mega, but delivers performance differently. I need to get my dragy on it this spring.

I don’t know where acceleration is headed but anything over what was available 15 years ago in the Veyron SS and now matched by the 765 and 296 is not necessary. There’s a reason Revuelto, 296, 765, SF90 all pull near identical 50-250 km/h. It’s the sweet spot of crazy where enjoyment can still be had.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

I would not have expected that. Usually sports or super cars start running out of puff beyond 120mph/200kmh.

where do we go from here? Will cars be able to do 200kmh in 3 seconds in ten years time? We will inevitably reach the limits of tyre or road conditions. Racing cars can usually go fast safely because tyres are brand new, heated, track is warm and driver knows how to drive the car responsibly.

I'm just going by the data 17.7 s vs. 17.5 s to 300.

 

[Centurion]

So my sports car journey started with a BMW i8 10 years ago. Very underrated car. I loved it. I’d still get one. It was punchy but certainly nothing by today standards. However 100 in 4.2 and 200 in 14/15 seconds isn’t anything to sneeze at and the car feels quick. From there, I had an Acura NSX. Big step up in performance. Then a Ferrari 458, another step up. Then a 458 Speciale. Basically even but again now we’re mid 3’s to 100 and around 10/11 seconds to 200.

But then, 765, and boom. High 2s to 100 and 7 to 200 and I’ll tell you, the difference is dramatic and feels a lot for the street. I still get scared driving it. I don’t think cars ever need to be quicker than a 765. They aren’t more enjoyable any quicker than that and in the states 50-250 km/h is kind of all that matters for acceleration and you’ll only be above 200 for a few seconds before braking.

I’ve had the pleasure of having seat time in a lot of amazing cars and owning others since I got my 765. Veyrons, Chirons, Hauyras, 918, P1, LAF, etc. The 765 is as violent or more so than any of these in usable acceleration for a mere fraction of the cost. The 296 on paper pulls neck and neck with the 765. I’m not sure about it in person. It’s mega, but delivers performance differently. I need to get my dragy on it this spring.

I don’t know where acceleration is headed but anything over what was available 15 years ago in the Veyron SS and now matched by the 765 and 296 is not necessary. There’s a reason Revuelto, 296, 765, SF90 all pull near identical 50-250 km/h. It’s the sweet spot of crazy where enjoyment can still be had.

Those cars are ideal in countries with smooth roads and warm climates. Here in the uk they would be wasted. Cold, grease surfaces and pot holes are everywhere here in the south East of England. Small bumps are concealed dangers. One wheel in the air is enough to send you off the road even if you are responsible with the throttle.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Those cars are ideal in countries with smooth roads and warm climates. Here in the uk they would be wasted. Cold, grease surfaces and pot holes are everywhere here in the south East of England. Small bumps are concealed dangers. One wheel in the air is enough to send you off the road even if you are responsible with the throttle.

Ya your U.K. roads are rubbish

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Was able to do some testing today. Hit 172 effortlessly. 100-200 km/h in 4.5 and 60-130 in 5.2. Conditions are pretty perfect so I don't think the car has a lot more in it however I only have 450 miles so that'll likely improve some. I think the acceleration times posted by Drag times and AutoTop (100-200 km/h in 4.43 and 200-250 in 3.96) are pretty much what the car can do. I do wonder if this is a car that produces better times from PS than from a roll. It doesn't pull as violently as the 765 and is about .5 seconds slower from 60-130 per my initial testing however in drag races online it wins, so that's a head scratcher for me at the moment.

Another observation is that the gear box in the 765 is tuned MUCH more aggressively in auto than the Ferrari. A sniff of the throttle and the Mclaren will kick down from 7 to 3 and fire off. The Ferrari is happy to hang out two gears too high even with full throttle. I prefer the Mclaren gearbox logic.

I drove about 100 miles today in total and mostly highway miles. Amazing car. Comfortable, confidence inspiring, and so quick. I could do a road trip in the car easily. It is sort of the best of all worlds. Serious supercar performance when you want, playful when you want, quiet when you want, comfortable when you want. And in the sun today the paint plus the lines of the car are drop dead beautiful. Fantastic car! Can't think of a better at the moment for the used prices.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I'll post this in 765 area too.

First time really pushing it in the 765 this year as it’s warmed up. Ya, it’s a league above the 296 in terms of pace and excitement. The backfire on downshifts can be life affirming. And the pace, my God. Feels a lot more violent than the 296.

There’s a reason it’s the GOAT.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Same night, same stretch of road, 30 mins apart.

765LT 60-130 4.7 seconds, 100-150 4.9 seconds
296 60-130 5.2 seconds, 100-150 5.4 seconds

 

[Jo_Sta7]

296 photo dump

 

[Gianclaudio]

Sooooo beautiful, that it hurts.

 

[Jonathan19]

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[Jonathan19]

Ferrari 296 Version Special coming in April 29th.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Not a great DA. Not the best shift points. Still, quite quick. 100-200 km/h was 4.52. Expecting that to drop to Ferraris 4.4 claim with some more testing.

 

[Jonathan19]

The special version of the 296 is coming, so I created a thread for it.

Ferrari 296 Version Special

The Ferrari 296 Version Special coming in April 29th. Rumors: - The Coupé and Spider versions will be unveiled at the same time. - Power increased to 860 hp. - It features a double rear wing similar to the Ferrari FXX-K. - The front has an opening similar to the 488 Pista. - A very...

www.germancarforum.com

 

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