M5 BMW M5 F10 - Test Drives/Reviews

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Thanks for sharing, Betty.

 

[DblPen]

found an interesting comment

When the E34 came out it was huge (I was about 6 and called it "big BMW") but a few year passed and it looked perfect

When the E39 came out it was too big but a few year passed and it looked perfect

When the E60 came out it was too big and really ugly but a few year passed and now it looks perfect

The F10 will start to look good in a few years time, which is handy because you'd need to be mental to shove £85k into one knowing it'll be worth around £30k in three years time.

BMWs are kind of like the oposite of Italian populus cars, which all age like milk

 

[Betty Swollocks]

So, the M5 loses again. At least this time nobody can accuse Autocar of favouring the Jaguar.

 

[Sayyaaf]

So, the M5 loses again. At least this time nobody can accuse Autocar of favouring the Jaguar.

lol you really want it to fail that much ?

 

[Human]

Marhaban, Sayyaaf

Rest assured the M5 is everything but a fail. It's an epic car and an icon not just by name or credentials but as this one, the new one. And no test or review can change that.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

lol you really want it to fail that much ?

I really couldn't give a toss which car wins any test. I don't own either car and probably never will, so why would I care what the outcome is? I don't understand why anybody would have that mentality.

All that matters to me is that I enjoy the cars I own. What somebody else thinks of them is irrelevant.

The idea that certain people have "favourite" manufacturers and get upset that a reviewer hasn't picked their own choice, especially when they don't even own that vehicle or have any intentions of owning that vehicle, is completely bizarre.

 

[K-A]

Crazy how hard non M owners or better yet, creators take it when an M "loses".

 

[Sayyaaf]

I really couldn't give a toss which car wins any test. I don't own either care and probably never will, so why would I care what the outcome is? I don't understand why anybody would have that mentality.

All that matters to me is that I enjoy the cars I own. What somebody else thinks of it is irrelevant.

The idea that certain people have "favourite" manufacturers and get upset that a reviewer hasn't picked their own choice, especially when they don't even own that vehicle or have any intentions of owning that vehicle, is frankly completely bizarre.

Probably you noticed I am not the type that take forum arguments seriously, but that statement is just contradicting itself. You don't care and you post in mutliple threads the same comment about the same car ? just doesn't make much sense to me.

Anyways, I love the M5 and wouldn't consider a diesel car over it cause autocar said so. M5 was created with performance in mind, if it loose in that category, I would be seriously concerned considering I will buy that car

Happy motoring

 

[Betty Swollocks]

, but that statement is just contradicting itself. You don't care and you post in mutliple threads the same comment about the same car ?

Contradicting myself? How exactly? I don't care WHICH car wins. What I'm interested in is how the reviewer arrives at their verdict and why. Therefore I post.

You seem to view my post that the D5 is preferred in this case over the M5 as me deriving some sort of pleasure from the outcome.

And which "multiple threads" have I posted the same comment about the "same car"?

 

[Ultimate Car Guy]

Crazy how hard non M owners or better yet, creators take it when an M "loses".

It's called passion.

It happens in F1: some people don't really care about the drivers and they'll never in their lifetimes be able to drive for their favourtie F1 team, but if their team looses, they become dissapointed and demonstrate it in an emotional and irrational manner.

Its not very hard for people to develop a passion for a particular brand, so if they see a brand's particular flagship model get beaten, then ofcourse they'll be dissapointed. Often that disspointment manifests itself to something irrational - and that's why they make posts about bias in the review.

I'm not saying that its right and it would be rather arrogant to call it bizarre, i guess its just human condition.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Often that disspointment manifests itself to something irrational - and that's why they make posts about bias in the review.

I'm not saying that its right and it would be rather arrogant to call it bizarre, i guess its just human condition.

If someone demonstrates irrational behaviour then why is it arrogant to call it bizarre? It's quite a logical conclusion to draw.

It would be arrogant to view it as bizarre if it was perfectly normal behaviour, but it just didn't correspond with your own viewpoint.

 

[Human]

Read the posts again, only one person behaves irrational and bizarre at the same time.

So by ensuring that we add value back into the forum that we all can appreciate, try to do things differently next time IMO.

The brand passion or lack of it doesn't mean every thread has to end in a irrational dog fight...

 

[Ultimate Car Guy]

If someone demonstrates irrational behaviour then why is it arrogant to call it bizarre? It's quite a logical conclusion to draw.

It would be arrogant to view it as bizarre if it was perfectly normal behaviour, but it just didn't correspond with your own viewpoint.

It’s a weakness of human condition to demonstrate irrational and illogical behaviour. It’s natural. We’re not perfect.

To label that as bizzare is somewhat arrogant because you’re inferring that you don’t engage in irrational or illogical behaviour.

 

[K-A]

If it's irrational or illogical, it definitely can indeed be bizarre. Most of us are bizarre, just in different ways. Some aspects of bizarreness that can be more destructive (irrational or illogical can be two examples) shouldn't be dismissed just because humans are capable and weak to it.

 

[Ultimate Car Guy]

If it's irrational or illogical, it definitely can indeed be bizarre. Most of us are bizarre, just in different ways. Some aspects of bizarreness that can be more destructive (irrational or illogical can be two examples) shouldn't be dismissed just because humans are capable and weak to it.

I'm not saying you dismiss it.

Those members who made the bias claims are somewhat are mistaken and they should be corrected.

But for one to label their mistakes as bizarre is arrogant becasue they themselves also make mistakes. It's like the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

But for one to label their mistakes as bizarre is arrogant becasue they themselves also make mistakes. It's like the pot calling the kettle black.

Oh dear, now that's ironic. For that very reason I'm certainly not going to listen to you when it comes to handing out advice on how somebody should behave. Quoting you from only two days ago, these posts WERE NOT AIMED AT ME but were a completely unprovoked attack on somebody else, and were taken from the same thread (just three posts) within the space of two hours!:

http://www.germancarforum.com/pit-g...-business-case-bmw-supercar-7.html#post564130

Contrast this to the shit you post.

I couldn't give a shit if you included a compliment in your statement.

A compliment from someone as ignorant as you doesn't exactly mean much.

I'm just getting frustrated over the stupid posts you've made.

Do you realise how idiotic that sounds?

Another stupid post you made was in refernce to the sales figures

Even more stupid was that you only used the US figures to back your claims.

My advice is this: before you make a post about a particular topic in which you know shit all, do some reading or research because you're only demonstrating your sheer stupidity and ignorance to people.

You guys are probably one of the most ignorant members on this forum.

If you’re stupid enough to not realise, the business model for premium manufacturers are completely different to that of a mass-market.

Leave the serious business talk to intelligent people like your uncle UCG.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Double post.

 

[Ultimate Car Guy]

^ I'm not denying that i'm arrogant - far from it. There are many instances in my life where i've done wrong against other people and i'm sure that i'll continue to do that. I'm human and i'm first to admit i ain't perfect.

In regards to my posts to Hot Ice? Yes, i was wrong to do that.

Did i repent? Yes. I stopped making posts in this forum for a couple of days to cool down. I then made it my goal to leave Hot Ice alone for a while so hopefully one day, when this isn't an issue anymore, i'll apologise, so he and i can engage in intelligent and stimulating discussion.

You'll also see that in my post recent posts, i've managed to contain my anger to other members.

See, the difference between you and me is that when someone rebukes me, i react immediately and i repent. However, when someone points out an error in your posts (which is what i did), you get all defensive and you automatically start reverting to that person's faults. You don't even stop to realise that you were in the wrong and that maybe you should change. Ironically, that by definition, is arrogance.

 

[Deckhook]

The M5 and M550dx test will be interesting reading because not only is it the best petrol and diesel 5s that M-Division can produce but that ones RWD and the other AWD. Very tricky as to which I would chose but I think the M550dx would win because it's still mind bogglingly quick, has far superior economic ability and should be more sure footed in the wet.

Odd to think that the biggest threat to M5 sales won't come for its rivals but from an in-house oil burner.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

^ I'm not denying that i'm arrogant - far from it. There are many instances in my life where i've done wrong against other people and i'm sure that i'll continue to do that. I'm human and i'm first to admit i ain't perfect.

In regards to my posts to Hot Ice? Yes, i was wrong to do that.

Did i repent? Yes. I stopped making posts in this forum for a couple of days to cool down. I then made it my goal to leave Hot Ice alone for a while so hopefully one day, when this isn't an issue anymore, i'll apologise, so he and i can engage in intelligent and stimulating discussion.

You'll also see that in my post recent posts, i've managed to contain my anger to other members.

See, the difference between you and me is that when someone rebukes me, i react immediately and i repent. However, when someone points out an error in your posts (which is what i did), you get all defensive and you automatically start reverting to that person's faults. You don't even stop to realise that you were in the wrong and that maybe you should change. Ironically, that by definition, is arrogance.

Oh stop trying to be holier than thou. Simple fact is, only 48 hours ago you made three posts which were abusive, arrogant and showed complete unjustified contempt of other members, completely unprovoked, and yet now you're trying to say you've had some miraculous self-revelation and are in a position to lecture other people on their "arrogant" posts? Nowhere did I hail the level of relentless abuse you aimed at Hot-Ice.

Now, back on topic.