3 Series (G20) [Official] BMW 3 Series (G20)


The BMW G20 is the seventh generation of the BMW 3 Series range. Body styles: G20 (sedan), G21 (wagon/touring), G28 BEV (i3), and G28 (long-wheelbase). Predecessor: F30 3 Series. Successor: G50 3 Series. Production: October 2018-2016.
Saw this yesterday. Factory BMW 3er test car with "live video recording"... interesting.

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BMW announced a few days ago that they'll be offering an on-board integrated camera and recording facility on various models as an optional extra.
 
They should pretty much stop comparing the W205 yo the G20 and wait for the next generation.
Actually both this test and the Car SA test were very close. Car SA even went as far to put on their cover that it was much closer than they expected. 84 vs 82 out of 100.

I haven't read the full test yet, only the conclusion. They mention an immense improvement in the facelift C-class's build quality.
 
3rd Place: BMW 330i

Disappointing, yes, but the 330i still gets a lot right, sometimes brilliantly. Despite having nearly the same weight-to- power ratio as the G70, the 330i is both quicker and more fuel-efficient. The 0-60 run takes a fleet 5.4 seconds, and the quarter mile goes by in 14 seconds flat at 98.1 mph. The 330i is rated 26/36/30 city/highway/combined—a not-insignificant 5 mpg better than the G70. Brakesare also the best of the bunch. Firm, confidence-inspiring, with a strong initial bite and progressive pedal feel. Its 60-0 test was equally impressive, with the 330i needing only a scant 103 feet to come to a stop. Credit the beefy brakes, which are part of the $2,450 Track Handling package.

But that same package also contributed to the 330i's third-place finish, thanks to an adaptive suspension that's obnoxiously brittle—even in its softest setting. Testing director Kim Reynolds probably put it best when he said "it finds annoying bumps without the commensurate handling composure payoff." Walton couldn't wait to get out of the car. "Sure, it was very confidence-inspiring in the canyon, but unless you live in a canyon, pass."

Afterwards, we deliberated whether the 330i would have placed higher without the Track Handling package (we even asked BMW for a more traditional version, but this is what they had available). Although the ride would have improved, there's still that fundamental issue of an identity crisis. The unmistakable touches of brilliance are undermined by overthinking. Instead of sticking to what it does best, the latest 3 Series attempts to be all things to all people and loses itself in the process. As Cortina so aptly put it, "The Ultimate Driving Machine needs to do more work."
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2nd Place: Genesis G70

The G70 might be brand-new to the scene, but it already feels like an old friend. Get behind the wheel and everything falls instantly to hand. You're greeted by a cockpit that's not only refreshingly straightforward, but also feels special in all the right places. Walton appreciated the attention to detail: "I love the quilted leather and the chromey, knurled ***** you'd expect to find in a Range Rover or Bentley." The combination of black and burgundy throughout the interior was a knockout.

Out on the test track, the G70 nearly matches the BMW on the figure eight and lateral acceleration—a testament to its extensive chassis development and tuning. It's only when you give it the boot that the G70 trails behind the rest of the pack. A fair amount of turbo lag from the 2.0-liter hampers off-the-line acceleration, and keeping it on boost requires judicious timing with the paddle shifters. Diving hot into a corner revealed more sloths in the powertrain. Despite multiple stabs to the shift paddle, the G70 sometimes refused our downshift requests during rapid deceleration in figure-eight testing. Stops from 60 mph required 106 feet, roughly splitting the difference between the BMW and Tesla.

We'd be remiss if we didn't at least mention that the G70 is the only one left in its segment to offer a six-speed manual. And therein lies the irony with this stellar, award-winning sport sedan. It makes all the right moves and ticks all the right boxes. Through no fault of its own, the G70 represents the pinnacle of a segment … just as that segment is poised to charge in a completely new and uncharted direction.
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1st Place: Tesla Model 3
To no one's surprise, the Model 3 absolutely crushed it in straight-line acceleration: 0-60 whooshed by in only 4.0 seconds, and the quarter mile fell in 12.5 seconds at a speed of 113.1 mph. Proving it wasn't a one-trick electric pony, the Model 3 also bested the BMW on our figure-eight loop, despite wearing all-season tires.

That electric drivetrain also provides the framework for the rest of this paradigm shift. The near-silent, rocket-like acceleration is only the first step. On our test runs out in the real world, one-pedal driving quickly became a matter of course. Lift off the accelerator, and regen instantly begins to slow the car. Time it right, and you can navigate through even heavy traffic with only an occasional feathering of the brake pedal. Walton was smitten. "Driving feels new and novel again. The way it re-introduces driving enthusiasm to a driving enthusiast is remarkable."

The Tesla Model 3 wins this competition because it has thoroughly rewritten the rules of what a compact sport sedan can be. As it turns out, the number 3 is still the benchmark number for this segment. It just now happens to be a different type of 3.Full article: Motortrend.
 
3rd Place: BMW 330i

Disappointing, yes, but the 330i still gets a lot right, sometimes brilliantly. Despite having nearly the same weight-to- power ratio as the G70, the 330i is both quicker and more fuel-efficient. The 0-60 run takes a fleet 5.4 seconds, and the quarter mile goes by in 14 seconds flat at 98.1 mph. The 330i is rated 26/36/30...
Saw this earlier as well. Quite something, that they like the Genesis more than the new 3.

I think the American press has properly fallen out of love with the 3-series, it seemed to start with the F30. Let's see what Car & Driver say.
 
Saw this earlier as well. Quite something, that they like the Genesis more than the new 3.

I think the American press has properly fallen out of love with the 3-series, it seemed to start with the F30. Let's see what Car & Driver say.

It doesn’t help that Motor Trend is a bit sensational. I really don’t like them.
 
It doesn’t help that Motor Trend is a bit sensational. I really don’t like them.

That whole article is BS of the highest order imo, but Tesla lovers will quickly jump in and prove how right they are.

They already did in the Tesla thread, like flies attracted to shit.
 
I don't think there is sense to compare an ICE car to an EV. These two types of cars are so different and the real reason to buy the one or the other can not be evaluated in such a test. It can not be put in general, it's so specific- where do you live, what is the access to infrastructure, how long is the commute. Each type has its merits, although the future does not belong to ICE cars for sure. But to put a Genesis in front of the brilliant G20 is just looking for a sensation.
 
G20 3 series sales appear to be having a rocky start here in the German home market, being decisively outsold by the M-B C-Class and Audi A4. Of course, the introduction of the G21 Touring may change things quickly.
 
Eh. Have you driven a Genesis G70? Dynamically I’d say it surpasses the F30. And the interior is comparable.
Not wanting to come across as stuck up but let me first say this: no I haven't driven a G70. But, over the years I've started to take exception to that question "have you driven it?"
Let's say I had. Let's say I drove it off a dealer's lot Stateside and pootled around in town, at legal speeds, through intersections and wide avenues congested with other cars, trucks and semis. Yes, I'd say, I've driven it. And now I am perfectly qualified to make a call about the G70's stellar vehicle dynamics in extremis and state unequivocally that the G70 has the measure of the F30. And that would be total BS.

I have lots of dear friends who test drive cars all the time and hoof it at the traffic light drag race to later proclaim, "I've driven the new GTX 250 R+ and it's incredible". And I know they can't drive for shit. But, all fair, for them, the car's great and that's all that matters when people spend their money on cars.

In the near-impossible event that I get to drive a G70 2.0 turbopetrol against a similarly appointed F30 2.0 turbopetrol on a circuit with everything switched off then I may even come away stating that the Genesis' fine chassis tuning makes it marginally dynamically superior to the now-discontinued F30. If I had to choose, however, to drive a car day in day out for personal and business use, between a late-build F30 and G70 - would I choose the G70 on the basis of its negligible dynamic edge? Not a chance in hell. So, whether I've driven a G70 or not is inconsequential. I would not consider the 2.0T Hyundai Genesis G70 over an F30 - let alone, the seemingly much improved G20. Eh.
 
Since everybody compares the 3 Series with the C Class, A4, and the XE; let's go ahead and compare the 3 Series with other cars that a potential buyer would not consider in most cases.

Bewildering reasoning these article folks have up there.
 
Behold, the wonderment of diversity that providing comparable performance in all categories produces:


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Seeing that comparative diagram is incredible that in the flesh are two totally different designs
 

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